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So how many of you have actual moral issues with IM?

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So in percentages, how much moral issues do you have when it comes to IM?

  1. 1%

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    2.6%
  2. 10%

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    3.9%
  3. 25%

    9 vote(s)
    11.7%
  4. 50%

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    5.2%
  5. 75%

    5 vote(s)
    6.5%
  6. Zero fucks given!

    49 vote(s)
    63.6%
  7. 100%

    5 vote(s)
    6.5%
  1. Billy_Batts

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    I have read a few posts where people had moral issues with IM, being it earning through a porn site, deceive people to buy a product or for just being good at manipulation.

    Me personally, I give zero fucks!

    I have spend a pretty descent amount of time on the dark web when I was looking for short cuts to earn money, the shit that goes on over there..:D

    So many people that rip people off hard over there, I almost got tricked into CC scams when I was at a absolute rock bottom place in my life.

    I spoke to guys that would buy CC credentials and rip people off. The last person I spoke lived in my own country and he wanted to teach me so I could help him in a JV and I was looking at his ways on TV and he ripped of a single mom with a little kid just before Christmas and he ripped her whole account.

    That was the moment I thought, " Fuck it" that is not for me, I got some serious moral issues with that!! And as you can see I joined BHW just before Christmas.

    But IM!! I literally have zero moral issues to create ads, landing page and do what I have to do for people buy my shit!

    I did not force them to earn on their behalf, being it a pop-up ad on my porn site or a well constructed FB ad and landing page for my niche site. I never fall for this shit and if I don't trust something I will research it maybe they should have to. I don't force people or rip their money, they purchased something or left their email it was their choice.

    You are not ripping people, you are not selling crack to kids, you are not dealing in CP!

    So for real, if you one of those guys with moral issues in IM, you shouldn't give a fuck!
     
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    Haven't voted because I would probably end up lying!!

    My biggest problem is overthinking things, I tend to think about what I'm doing so much until I start to feel shitty about it. I really need to have more of a "couldn't give a fuck" attitude!
     
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    This is pretty easy to overcome though. So, what would you have entered when lying and what if being honest?
     
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    Lying, probably 1% or zero given. Truthfully, probably 50%+

    My problem is, I tend to take it personally if I get a reply to a comment on Facebook/Twitter/Forums that is attacking my original comment. I know I should walk away and not give a fuck but I still keep going back just to check!!
     
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    You talking about your personal social media with your RL name etc?
     
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    No, I don't use social media personally. All my accounts are fake.

    I still pop back to check for responses and take stuff to heart when people start calling me a scammer!

    I know I shouldn't but it's similar to my days as a salesman, I would always have a bad day after I got an abusive customer!
     
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    i try draw lines sometimes.... because like if we promoting dating or weight loss offers it no problems as we profiting from horny or lazy peoples....

    but if offer is like 'cure cancer'... NOOOO!!!!
     
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    Reported!!

    for being honest :p
     
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    Ha ha, I forgot we're not supposed to tell the truth here.
     
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    If they are fake WTF you are worrying about?

    And about those persons that are calling you fake, could have been me or any other marketeer :D I want you to break and fail as a marketeer :p more opportunities for me :p

    You don't know who is behind those comments ;) Fuck em, you didn't force them anything!
     
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    Interesting thoughts OP

    Basically I reckon anyone who has worked in adverstising, PR or marketing always has put a "spin" on things, guilt free,
    but there is a thin line whereby we should not become the real snake oil salesperson. Karma is a bitch so its best to have a decent,
    respectable and honest outlook IMO.
     
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    The "legal" pharmaceutical industry is trying to convince the people to cure shit too while and speaking from experience there are many alternative ways to cure shit.
     
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    it depends on the day.. there are some days I well bad for like example " Get a free iphone 7" because I think of kids who can't afford an iphone and when they see my ad they will spend all day hoping they will get the iphone and stuff .. and there are other days where I don't give a fuck
     
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    Response to those if part of your marketing involves interacting:

    "What! You think I'm a scammer? Go to this website and you'll see proof <insert link>! If you don't go there to see the proof them you are the scammer here!"

    Have another offer on the site!
     
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    it depending, dear....

    me a medical student soemtimes see 'alternate therapies' like sellings collodial silvers as antibacterias and can cures many illnesses..... but many reports show it is FAKE.... these makers of products are scammers but they still selling and many people promoting it to people with cancer... it makes me angrys!!! that no ethics!!!
     
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    I agree 100% but I'm sure I am not alone with this.

    I come from a largely manufacturing background and my main income still comes from this so interaction with the general public has always been minimal. This is a whole new ball game for me apart from my brief spell in sales and I am learning fast that I need to change my attitude. Easier said than done though at my time of life!