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So, except for ranking in home page for a while, are botted views useless?

Discussion in 'YouTube' started by Frankie4Fingers, Mar 28, 2012.

  1. Frankie4Fingers

    Frankie4Fingers Power Member

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    Little premise: after the Sh4rePr0 stunt, I got interested again in discovering the mobile views trick.
    After some trial and error, I found how to make it work using Imacros and making Firefox able to stream RTSP through VLC. Of course, I was totally ecstatic and I was planning to increase under the radar all my legit videos and after they'd become popular, asking for the YT partnership.

    But like a week later, the mobile views trick got exposed publicly, so I had to change my plans and decided to milk it quickly till the inevitable patch.
    I paid a guy on FreeLancer.com to unlock Magic Views (it was way more efficient than my Firefox trick), decided to put on unlisted the videos I was going to bot to the moon just to add a layer of safety (I don't think they would had appeared on any top charts since they are like 1 year old videos anyway), and started pumping a ton of views.

    Fast forward a pair of weeks, the mobile views trick got patched, I started to re-release my videos on YT (aka make them public again) after putting on them a decent quantity of comments, likes and favorites.
    Now, I was expecting to have AT LEAST something in the range of 500-1000 related video views per day for videos that I botted with 1-2 millions views (the niche is the ever popular animals one, I won't be more specific for obvious reasons), instead guess what?

    Zero, nada, zip. The total daily amount of views is the same of the pre-botting period.

    I thought it could have been because of the new algo that now awards videos that have more user engagement in the related video sections. You know, since Magic Views and the other mobile views bot just started a RTSP stream and interrupt it after like 1 second, the user engagements for videos with millions of views like that should be abysmal.

    But I checked the "audience retention" graphs for all these video, and I find them to be from average to very good (my take on this is that probably until 14th March they weren't counting mobile views for user engagement meters).

    I also know that the new algo seems to prefer longer videos and mine are almost all under 1:30 - 2 minutes, but then again, how's possible that with those bazillion of views they haven't got even a small bump in total daily views?

    So, I ask again, except for ranking in Most Viewed charts and got real exposure, are botted views useless?
     
  2. killopus

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    i'm confused. what did you expect? you thought botting a year old unlisted video up to a million views would make it popular?
     
  3. Essence19

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    You have to make sure before you bot your video that it is ranked for the keywords you want and showing up in the search then it will affect your ranking. however if you bot a video that is not showing in the ranking.nothing will happen. you must make sure before you bot it thats its ranked.only then wil you move up in the rankings.buy comments,likes and favs.
     
  4. Frankie4Fingers

    Frankie4Fingers Power Member

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    No, all the videos were public, I made some of them unlisted for a short amount of time to have the time to add comments, like, favs, etc. to make them look legit. Then, they were made public again.

    I want to stress that I wasn't expecting traffic from search rankings (although ALL videos were and still are ranking for their respective titles), but from related videos.

    My thought was this: say you have a video entitled "Star Wars Kid Goes Insane", if you have like 10 views it would be difficult to have the video appear in the related section of the uber-popular "Star Wars Kid" video, while if you have 1.000.000 views the chance of it appearing in the related section should be much MUCH more.

    To me it doesn't seem an irrational expectation. But why the facts are saying the opposite? :p
     
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  6. izSpK

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    Botted mobile views with the public method is useless as YouTube implemented lots of stuff to make them useless. However, views that come from Facebook, and trusted sources like that are very valuable in YT's eyes and will give you heaps of SEO juice.
     
  7. Frankie4Fingers

    Frankie4Fingers Power Member

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    Hey iZpk, in an old thread you wrote this:

    Any difference after the latest algo change? Can you confirm, as I read from several YT small partners, that now the algo tends to show more longer videos in the related video section?