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Slik Road Owner Told on Himself...

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by akacash, Oct 3, 2013.

  1. akacash

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    So I like many spent some of yesterday reading into what happened with Silk Road. While reading the charging documents I came across something rather interesting that made me laugh and really scratch my head. It says that he was orginally questioned by Homeland Security because Customs Border Patrol had seized his fake ID docs. Before I go farther let me just say I'm not making any accusations and I have no idea if this is legit or not. But here's what I found interesting. According to the documents it says that as HSI visited him to question him about the phone passports and stuff, and that Ulbricht refused but ultimately sealed his own fate with this one line:
    . That was on July 10th, by July 23rd the FBI has accesssed his servers. This is where it gets a lil sketchy and I'll let you draw your own conclusions, but if this is legit he's one of the more egotistical moron's I've ever met to intentionally brag about something he operates as if to flaunt it right in their faces. Anyway I was stunned when I read that and realized that this kid had basically snitched himself out, what do you guys think?
     
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    That specific line does not matter. He was just sloppy, and did stupid mistakes. Someone in his position had to be more secure.
     
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    Well the mistakes and footprints he left around the web are how they connected him and found out who he was yes, but that one line right there is probably what set off the entire investigation, that is of course if you believe all of this to be legit ;) According to the charging papers and dates everything was set into motion after that meeting where he basically advertises Silk Road right to the investigators. As far as his footprints go, I actually don't think he ever imagine it blowing up as big as it did and creating such a stir. So that's why in the beginning he didn't do much to hide his actual identity.
     
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    He was Trying to Secure himself his previous footprints when he marketed his site on forums helped them trace him
     
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    They are back to normal rate soon. Looks like Silk Road is no longer the major part of bitcoin economy.
     
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    His biggest mistake was saying anything to Officers. ANYTIME an Officer questions you about a possible criminal investigation or possible crime you have one answer and one answer only; I would like to talk to my Attorney and won't be answering any questions without his presence. If they persist your answer is the same.

    If they have enough evidence to arrest you they are going to do it with or without your participation. The ONLY thing you can do is help their case by answering questions thinking you can talk your way out of an arrest or trouble. Never answer questions about a possible crime without an Attorney. NEVER.
     
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    I wish more people really understood this. When the Police arrest you they count on, and play off of your emotions and the overwhelming sense of impending doom you ultimately feel. I've seen more than 1 occasion where the cops have staged an arrest only to put pressure on someone to try and make them give up information. Remember the cops can only hold you for X amount of hours w/o charging you. And even if they charge you, 99% of them time you're going to be booked, arraigned, and given a chance to make bond. At that point you're back home and working with your attorney.

    Just remember something, you can NOT help yourself by cooperating with investigators period. They will try and make you believe that, and I'm sure there's some rare case where it actually worked out, but in the real world it doesn't play like that. Also that line they give you when you get arrested about, "this is your only chance to help yourself"... Really, so if I wanted to give information later on you're going to tell me no? Get real. The tactics and tricks cops play on is built off of pure manipulation and taking advantage of your situation. Just stay quiet and wait for the lawyer, nothing worse can happen to you. If you've been arrested you're not going to be going home by telling them something and if you' haven't been arrested then they can't hold you so peace. Point is, and I got to rambling a bit too much there, but just keep your mouth shut, it's never as bad as the arresting officers will try and make it sound. Right on KVM!
     
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    Irony...:eek:

    The feds pay for 60 percent of Tor's development. Can users trust it?

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/09/06/the-feds-pays-for-60-percent-of-tors-development-can-users-trust-it/
     
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    I agree, nothing will ever be 100% trustworthy probably, but TOR is probably as close as it gets right now. The worst part is no one will ever know if it has been compromised unless it leaks out somehow. The one encouraging thing is it looks like they didn't use TOR to track/find him really, rather just old fashioned googling. I'm fairly curious to see if they stop with DPR or if they try and get him to roll on someone, and I'm even more curious to who they would try and get him to roll on, or if there's even anyone that he could give them.
     
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    did you guys read the indictment ?
    they did not catch him because they were CLEVER , they caught him because he was fucking retarded



    regards,
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    Well, that sucks. Where are the elite middle class going to get their designer drugs now?
     
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