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Sixth Grader Wins $70,000. Settlement Against School For Demanding Her Facebook Password

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  1. The Scarlet Pimp

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    Two years ago, then-13-year-old Minnesotan sixth grader Riley Stratton was suspended from school because of something she said on Facebook about a hall monitor.

    Riley then went online and demanded to know who had informed the school of her comments. Following that, she was brought to the school and made to hand over her Facebook password to a police officer and school officials after a parent allegedly told the school that she had sent sexual messages to the mother's son.

    As a result of the case, the ACLU brought a case against the girl's school district on her behalf. The result: the Minnewaska district owes a $70,000. settlement in damages, and must now rewrite its social media policy to say that electronics may only be searched if the school has a reasonable suspicion that they will uncover violations of school rules.

    Still, the case raises an issue that has come up more and more often in recent years: in the social media age, where does the jurisdiction of school stop and where does the privacy of the students begin?

    "A lot of schools, like the folks at Minnewaska, think that just because it's easier to know what kids are saying off campus through social media somehow means the rules have changed, and you can punish them for what they say off campus," said attorney Wallace Hilke. "Kids' use of social media is the family's business, not the school's business, unless it's a case of cyberbullying or poses a substantial threat to school activities."

    http://facecrooks.com/Internet-Safe...t-School-Demanding-Her-Facebook-Password.html
     
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  2. Dj Co2

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    The attorney's right, whatever the kids do/say off campus is none of the School's fucking business!
     
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    Unfortunately, it should be if we want kids to stop trolling themselves.
     
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    I'd tell the school to fuck off and mind its own business though $70K would be nice too.
     
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    I think school systems are getting a little too cocky of what they can and cannot do.
     
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    it's not only the school systems, it's everybody in power.
     
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    I love reading stories where the gov falls on it's fat ass like this. I wish someone tried to do that to me in school, I'd lawyer up so fast.
     
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    Kids these days are far too cocky, and things like this just show kids what they already know, they can do as they please. Kids now grow up into arseholes, as they are no longer taught respect at school, and are not disciplined, instead the teachers must pansy around them like the kids are their superiors.
     
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    That's exactly how it is nowadays. It's sad.
     
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    I completely agree mickyfu, BUT the gov is far to cocky as well and they have incredible power that goes unchecked. Every little victory towards privacy and individual freedom is a good thing to me. It isn't the schools place to punish you for something you did at home. That's the parent's job (even if many don't discipline properly). If my kid was suspended from school for that reason, I'd raise hell.

    It infurates me to think employers or the gov believes it has a right to infringe on your privacy like that. Part of the reason why I work in SEO is that it gives me freedom from "big brother" type companies who monitor their employees. I actually had an interview where they asked for my FB login information. When I politely declined they said I would be disqualified from the position if I didn't, I walked the fuck out of the interview.
     
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    Still, it doesn't give them the right to invade someone's privacy. The main reason why kids nowadays are areseholes is because parents no longer raise their children like our parents did. We knew that if we messed up bad somewhere, dad would be cool but mom would raise hell. Kids nowadays don't give a fuck about that because their parents do not properly instill that idea of fear+respect in them. But still, every now and then you would see a kid who is so charming, respectful & obedient and that's because his parents have raised him that way.
     
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    Because they are not allowed to, because children now have too many rights, this article being a fine example. Right or wrong, invading privacy, pussy footing around a child and giving it $70k, just shows how pathetic society is becoming.

    Teachers are now too scared to even say boo to a child in fear of losing their job and ending up on a paedo charge.
     
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    even more on the story...

    Privacy, Facebook, And School Abuse of Power

    In 2012, the ACLU Minnesota Chapter filed a lawsuit against the Minnewaska School District after it suspended Stratton for a Facebook post, written and published outside of school, in her home, in which she expressed hatred for a school hall monitor who she said was "mean."

    After the suspension, Stratton used Facebook to inquire which of her "friends" had blown a whistle on her. School officials brought the young teen into a room with a local sheriff and forced her to surrender her Facebook password. Officials used it to searched her page on the spot; her parents were not consulted.

    "A lot of schools, like the folks at Minnewaska, think that just because it's easier to know what kids are saying off campus through social media somehow means the rules have changed, and you can punish them for what they say off campus," Minnesota ACLU attorney Wallace Hilke said.

    "They punished her for doing exactly what kids have done for 100 years --- complaining to their friends about teachers and administrators. She wasn't spreading lies or inciting them to engage in bad behavior, she was just expressing her personal feelings."

    http://ethicsalarms.com/2014/03/28/privacy-facebook-and-school-abuse-of-power/

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    ACLU-MN settles Facebook case with Minnewaska School District

    In one humiliating ordeal after another, Stratton was subject to a baseless punishment for a comment she made on her own Facebook page, while at home, about a staff member from the school.

    A short while later she was put through a traumatizing experience when she had her Facebook page searched by school officials, with police present at the search, merely because she allegedly had an online conversation about sex, with a boy, while at home.

    The whole experience left Stratton distressed to the point where she no longer wanted to attend school.

    As part of the settlement the School District agreed to change its policies to better protect students' privacy and train its staff on the new policy to ensure it is correctly followed.

    The School District also agreed to a $70,000. settlement which will be divided between the Strattons, for damages, and the ACLU-MN to cover case costs and support future ACLU-MN efforts to protect the civil liberties of Minnesotans.

    "We are pleased with the settlement and hope this sends a clear message to other schools that it is bad policy to police students behavior on social media," stated Charles Samuelson, Executive Director of the ACLU-MN.

    "There may be times when it is appropriate for schools to intervene, but only in extreme circumstances where there are true threats or safety risks."

    https://www.aclu.org/technology-and-liberty/aclu-mn-settles-facebook-case-minnewaska-school-district
     
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    That right there is the kicker. For something done off school property by a minor, they used free tactics to invade her privacy, and did not even consult her parents. School is lucky it only cost them $70k.
     
  16. Dj Co2

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    I'm not saying beating up kids is the right way to raise them. You could instill fear & respect in them even without that. I've seen kids that when their parents look at them disappointingly they know that they need to back off from whatever they're doing and then I've seen kids who do not simply give a fuck about what anyone thinks.

    There's a lot more to raising a kid then giving birth to them then feeding them, schooling them thinking they'll grow up fine. I've seen many parents do this same thing and this is the reason why their children are not respectful of them. We could blame this on the economic scenario these days as well with both the spouses having to work to live a good life. Back in our day, our moms used to be housewives and even if she punish us, her simply saying, "Let Dad come, I'll tell him what you did today!" was enough for us to lay off.
     
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    wow, i wish i could of gotten loads of money for something that small, when i was 13 my teacher punched me in the face, never took legal action though, i guess theoretically, i could be swimming in a million quid right now in compensation :/