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site not showing anymore for easy keyword phrase

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by semilar, Oct 21, 2010.

  1. semilar

    semilar Regular Member

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    hey folks,

    I need some advice on a google problem that I can't figure out. I made a site around a keyword - approx 5 articles, all containing the keyword phrase, at first I was going from 145 to 135 on a not very competitive keyword phrase, but then my site disappeared - it's still indexed(site:), but not listed anymore for any keyword I tested...

    Actually, I just tried to search for a sentence (exact match search) thats on one of my pages, and google found NO sites at all. The page containing the sentence is indexed though...

    The main keyword phrase that I wanted to rank for has about 60k searches, however the last google search page says its only about 500pages - still, I could not find my site within these 500 results! :(

    I hosted that site on 000webhost, I think 3 problems could have been the cause:

    the poor uptime,

    the fact that my homepage that had teasers of my articles on it had 12% keyword density (did only check the articles themselves but not the keyword density of the homepage, maybe thats why many people advice to use a static site as frontpage...)

    I've installed a plugin to translate my pages into a lot of different languages, maybe thats a bad thing since google doesn't know what the primary language is supposed to be.


    I did some link building(no massive spamming..), lowered my keyword density, but can't get my site to show up in the serps again... really weird. Anyone ever had a similar problem? It's been about a month and nothing happened. :/ Google webmaster shows no error. needless to say that I'm afraid to promote a site that I did put a lot of effort into if I get those bombastic results and don't know what I did wrong... :(

    thanks guys
     
  2. youarehuman

    youarehuman Newbie

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    Use more content. Try to use more back links.

    Sub domains are very hard to get indexed. Get own domain. Use more relevant content.

    Textual back links is a very good strategy, bout apples for example, your domain name should include the keyword apples
     
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  3. semilar

    semilar Regular Member

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    But should my pages not at least show up at the end of the serps?
    That's what I don't get.

    I checked and I have 250 backlinks to my target page, whilst the competition has 0 blp's... (the top ten).

    I did not know subdomains are hard to get indexed. But my pages show up when doing "site:domain" - so they should be indexed right? They are just not showing up in the serps... :eek:

    And for the low site count I thought translating my site into a lot of languages would help... but google did not even index most of them yet. :/

    My subdomain contains my keyword phrase.
     
  4. BorisTipsIt

    BorisTipsIt Regular Member

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    How long has it been gone? You might just be going through a purgatory period with Google. This happens sometimes. Giving it a week or two can help. I agree with youarehuman, however. Add a lot more content than you currently have.
     
  5. semilar

    semilar Regular Member

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    It's been gone for about a month now. :/ I would be running around screeming if that was a real money site that I put lot's of effort into...
    :eek: :eek2::(

    I've been doing some research on the translated content part, because about at the same time I started auto translating, my site disappeared. Ppl at a russian google support forum say that translated content is seen as spam and one should modify the robots.txt to disallow the SE's to index this content...

    So my theory is now:
    1. too high keyword density -> lowers google's ban threshold
    2. only a few sites -> lowers google's ban threshold
    3. all over sudden a lot of automatic translations AND again with too high KW density -> lowers google's ban threshold a lot(because of the combination automated translation / KW spam trigger), site now below ban threshold -> DIE SPAMMER!
    It's only a unproven theory, but at least it's a start :D Does it make sense?

    So what I gonna do now is kill all the translations, and try to get google on my site again.

    EDIT: Oh come on now, the mysql server of 0*0*0*w*ebhost is down... what a shitty service. Sometimes I ask myself what they do with the money I don't pay them. Don't spend it all on mysql servers guys... :D
     
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  6. semilar

    semilar Regular Member

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    YAY my site is back. and I have to apologize, the site was not off the serps for 1 month, but for about 14-16 days. I checked the dates, it felt longer...

    I still wonder why this append. I've read on this board that a lot of people are having the same strange problem - being in the serps, then not for 14 days, and then showing up again...

    like a "you look like a spammer so we ban you for 14 days but since we can't be certain we let you back in afterwards, hoping that if you are a spammer you will be scared to death and stop while at the same time we do not have to hear your annoying complains because all you have do is to wait" ban.

    guys, if you had a similar problem, any idea what caused it for you? Or is it like a "can happen to anyone" problem...?

    I've checked what my problem might have been, but all the problems I listed previously are still being shown in the google cached pages(although I changed a lot since then), but I am listed again in the serps, better then ever(from 140 to nothing to 16), so I am confused...

    and google webmaster tools are showing different links then the links: command. I think google does it's best to spread as much miss information though Public relations and its own analysis tools so you can't be certain of anything google tells you, not even the serps themselves if you are not careful... man, that pisses me off.
     
  7. andrewstolpe

    andrewstolpe Newbie

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    hrm if you figure out why this happened i would love to know as well.
     
  8. Rose99

    Rose99 Newbie

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    How many teaser articles did you have on your home page, out of interest? That might be the problem, as each article title will show up as an h1 or h2 header. Have too many and you could have tripped a filter.

    Try reducing the number of teaser articles on the front page and pinging to let them know of your change.