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Site lost 80% traffic overnight on the 27th November - Algo update?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by tnbturbo, Dec 1, 2013.

  1. tnbturbo

    tnbturbo Newbie

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    One of my "whitehat" sites was hit on the 27th November and lost around 80% traffic. The site had less than 5 backlinks but had ranked for around 9 months for various product review related terms.

    Anyone else see a ranking drop on this date?

    There is no manual action in webmaster tools so confused over this one...
     
  2. Beven

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    That sounds odd, no recent changes as far as I know. Given that you haven't done much off-page SEO makes it even weirder because I doubt you will have been slapped by google. Or perhaps it's the lack of off-page SEO that has caused this..
     
  3. Heatz

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    Is your site hosted with hostgator by any chance? I would recommend you to look if your site is indexed at all in Google (site:yoursite.com on google). Yes, I have read the part about your site being white hat, just do yourself a favor and see if you are still indexed.
     
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  4. tnbturbo

    tnbturbo Newbie

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    Yes its still indexed - it still ranks for several terms (1st in fact) but all the other pages have lost their ranking.

    It is hosted with hostgator on shared hosting.
     
  5. Heatz

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    On the 27th something similar happened to me with a small 100% white hat site I had on a shared account with hostgator also. I'm trying to move all my sites other companies anyway, but I'm not sure if this drop was for some Google update or a screw up from HG.
     
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    Hostgator shared are really crap. Even GoDaddy is better, and that's saying something.
    Their easy attitude to adult content is an issue. My theory is that some might be sharing an IP with adult sites and there is a general sift going on with some of that stuff at the moment and innocent sites that share - or have close IP - are suffering collateral damage.
    Might only be short term, but it happened to some old sites of mine as well (on the 26th in my case - just the Hostgator sites on shared as well)

    Scritty
     
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  7. Zso

    Zso BANNED BANNED

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    Remember if you made any recent changes to the site. Check the downtime/uptime history of your site. Change the hosting (now I don't know if you're with Hostgator but Hostgator definetely sucks, same with Bluhost. They oversell)
     
  8. Heatz

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    You can check all the other websites hosted on the same IP here:
    http://www.yougetsignal.com/tools/web-sites-on-web-server/
     
  9. PrinceVisi

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    Ohh shit, the adult thing has gotten me too.

    So pist right now, even Yahoo and Bing have done the same.
     
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    I track a bunch of sites on hostgator, no such drop recently. Perhaps your shared IP on HG was flagged, but it's not a major movement, something related to your server or class C block. Either that or you were penalized for nothing, which is fairly common, considering google's latest updates.
     
  11. grodanboll

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    You should really consider making a change from HostGator to a more reputable company. Their shared hosting lacks in both server response time and their insufficient customer support allows bad sites to stay on the server for long, dragging your site down in the process.
     
  12. tnbturbo

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    Thanks guys for the replies. I think the first port of call is getting it off the shared hosting and see if that makes any difference. I will report back in a few days.
     
  13. tnbturbo

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    Can anyone recommend a reliable host?
     
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    I've just checked my shared hosting HG sites (for the first time ever) and found up to a dozen 'questionable' sites on one of the same servers as mine. My rankings have not been affected.

    Depending on how much weight you give to what Cutts has to say, you might want to look up his (recent?) video about hosting in a bad neighborhood. If I recall, his words were to the effect of 'we know that most people use shared hosting, and therefore disregard most shared content as being relevant', and logically speaking, that would have to be the case.
     
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    I'd have to agree with this, in your case OP.
     
  17. PrinceVisi

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    Yea, That has to be the case.

    But I am upgrading to a VPS with a dedicated IP. Better pay 20$, then deal with everything he has to say and do.
     
  18. Pvlman

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    I have several sites on HG shared hosting (nothing within SEO projects) and I had big difficulties accessing the sites last week - sometimes it took almost 10 seconds for the server to respond and start sending the data.

    I contacted the HG support and they told me it was because of my site - not properly optimized with big images. Well OK, I was tired to argue or to test it more and went to bed.

    Next day I created a completely new WP installation on a domain hosted on HG and the result was almost the same - so I contacted them on Twitter and through their chat and then they fixed it and now these sites fly like new.

    That being sad - maybe google bot couldnt access particular pages on your site so he wrote them off.
     
  19. tnbturbo

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    I agree that it must be the case that you can't help what other sites are doing on shared hosting - I think its unlikely to be this.

    I had a quick look on reverse IP and there is no adult content sites on the same server - additionally I can see another one of my sites there that has not been affected, so would say it rules the "bad neighbourhood" idea out at the moment.

    Regarding Google not being able to connect to the site - I can see that indexed urls has increased with no problem. You can see the result of the update on the second image.

    indexed.jpg

    search.jpg
     
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    No big changes for my sites and my client sites,I'm thinking also to move from hostgator to a much better hosting provider,Is godaddy hosting good?