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Site deindexed by google with this message in GWT, what to do?!

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Rua999, Jun 25, 2012.

  1. Rua999

    Rua999 Power Member

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    Just checked my GWT tools there and found a message for one of my sites saying..

    "Dear site owner or webmaster of ***************************,

    We've detected that some of your site's pages may be using techniques that are outside Google's Webmaster Guidelines. If you have any questions about how to resolve this issue, please see our Webmaster Help Forum for support. "

    While i see Google's Webmaster Guidelines covers a lot of problems one being for not having a site map (for some reason my sitemap wasn't showing in GWT), i do a few pretty blackhat things on it also, so im wondering if anyone has any experience on when i should just resubmit it now that i reinstalled the sitemap and basically taking a chance on the rest or is it pretty much guaranteed that they're gonna go through it with a fine toothcomb and pull me up on everthing and if so is this my only chance to resubmit it?! :confused:

    Id appreciate any advice anyway, thanks :)
     
  2. TheLinkGuy

    TheLinkGuy Power Member

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    it all depend on what you been doing that is bh

    most times you are out of luck what were you doing?
     
  3. Eagle Eye

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    First DO NOT GO TO THE WEBMASTER FORUM FOR HELP! you will not get any from those assholes believe me. If you do go there and ask for help they will just tell you your site sucks and that you are a spammer. Consider the amount of work you did and how much the site was earning. If it was not much work or if it was not earning anything then I would just start over with a new site from scratch. If it was earning alot then i would try to find a solution but I don't know if there is one.
     
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    jstorm Registered Member

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    Agree, wmoriarty - those people are just awful in that forum!
     
  5. Adam718

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    Absolutely don't seek help from google. I know some people might even apologize and tell google they'll abide by the guidelines from now on, which is a BAD idea, because 1 - They don't care, and 2 - telling them that will just confirm their suspicions of your black hat ways.

    If the site was important to you, you can always go with a good post penguin approach of slow manual link building on high PR pages only + what ever "white hat" you can do, and maybe adding a few unique articles.

    Or as Wmoriarty said, if the site didn't earn then you're better off starting something new.
     
  6. Dumper

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    Believe me, they didn't cut you off because you were missing a sitemap. Google sucks like they all said and rarely reverse a decision so really think about it whether or not it's really worth the effort to get it back.
     
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    trizzypballr Regular Member

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    For those who say that Google woulnt re-index your site, dont believe that BS. A good buddy of mine had one of his sites deindexed, and then bought a domain that was blacklisted. He was able to get both of the sites reindexed very easily. Maybe an hr worth of work to make the deindexed site up to par, removing the affiliate/adsense stuff, submitted it for review, and within a week his site was re-indexed. Btw the smart thing to do is back the site up before pulling all your affiliate/adsense off so you can just throw it right back up after its approved.

    The blacklisted domain was simple. We wrote up 5 quick 700 word posts (1-1.5 hrs of work) and submitted it to google. That site was indexed within a week or 2.

    If you get shitlisted by google, there is a reason. They put a ton of money into these anti-spam teams, and if you really do fix the issue with your site, they will reindex you.
     
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  9. SEOwned

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    Make sure you do not share your website here now you've admitted to blackhatting, only takes one google spy to bring you down permanently!
     
  10. Rua999

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    Hey sorry i couldn't wb til now, thanks for all the replies though :) I think i might have to let google win this battle and let the site go for the sake of my other ones, but i was wondering does anyone know that now that this site is deindexed from google can i just copy it over to a new domain and it won't be seen as duplicate content then or can i do that?! :confused:
     
  11. TheLinkGuy

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    exactly there is more to this story for sure!
    are you sure you are fully deinxexed?
     
  12. Rua999

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    Ah i reckon i know why they deindexed me alright, i dont think it would be worth my while even asking to be resubmitted cuz they might deindex my other sites that are doing the same too and so i cant really say any more about it either but i think it was a manual review or they would have deindexed the other :( i think the sitemap not showing in GWT was just a result of having been deindexed aswel. I reckon il just copy it over to a new aged domain and be a good boy this time! :rolleyes::)
     
  13. softi

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    Just a word of advice if you do want to use Webmaster tools - never ever put all your sites into one account. I did, and when they picked up some BH stuff on the one, they deindexed ALL THE OTHERS - some of whom were innocent bystanders (real above board, pure white hat sites although some had some innocent link building done for them - articles mainly).

    I left the main site (it got an unnatural links warning first, before being deindexed, so even if I get it back, I am still stuck with a penalty, however, I opened individual webmaster accounts for all the others and submitted reconsideration requests and they all were re-indexed.
    IF you did do some BH practices on the site, I would be careful though, I would advise following another post here on how to get a site reindexed (remove as much incriminating stuff as possible from the site (affiliate links, ads etc) for a start)
     
  14. NIXMY

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    I am not here to bash the OP but ... I always see a help request what do because of penalty or when deindexing has occurred. Then people will ask what you did. None never tell this and leave with the fix in their pocket to get their sites back and running without giving anything useful back expect more questions.

    Could you tell as what kind of bh you did? You never said your site name so I don't see any problem with that.
     
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  15. softi

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    Well basically according to Google ALL link building practices are now blackhat, since March 2012 (at least how I see it). I used blog networks and especially Build My Rank to my main business site. They followed the links back from the Build My rank to my main site into webmaster tools. In my webmaster tools I had:
    - my main business site
    - About 3 client sites
    - one donor site into another blog network (1waylinks).

    They then decided that since I used BMR to build links to my main site, and there was an obvious blog network type site in my webmaster tools, that I am obviously a blackhat spammer of note(!) and they deindexed all the sites in my webmaster tools, as well as ALL OTHER SITES ever registered by the same email address linked to these sites (I didn't hide my whois details - not a very good blackhatter after all....) This included client websites (my main business is really web design), as well as all my blog network sites as well as my own private affiliate sites. All that I have ever done with these sites were article marketing. I only did 'black hat' in google's eyes with BMR to my main site, and donating blogs into a blog network.

    I only submitted reinclusion requests for my poor clients, whose sites have not done anything wrong apart from the fact that they were registered with my email address as the tech info, OR were in my webmaster tools account.

    Since my clients' sites were obviously above board (they are straight forward business sites) I submitted the reinclusion request as my customer, in other words, as the real owner of the site, and asked them to reconsider the site. In all the cases they did that and reindexed the site. I did not bother to try and submit a reconsideration request for the blog network sites or even my main money (business) website since it is no use - there is no way that they will reconsider these. I got an unnatural link warning to my main business site due to the BMR links even before the deindexing, and they penalised my site by taking away my first page rankings that I had for ALL my keywords. I have over 25000 links to this site, of which the BMR links were about 200, but even if I get my site reindexed, i still would need to get rid of 'unnatural links' - and how the hell am i going to do that with 25000 links?

    These links, just BTW, were built gradually over a period of 5 years, by writing articles, posting occasionally to some other blog networks apart from BMR, as well as writing good tutorials etc on my site that got linked to naturally.
    So basically I am abandoning this site and have started from scratch, and to get business in I am now running google ads, although it really galls me to put money into Google's pocket.

    Hope this helps
     
  16. weruncompanies

    weruncompanies Power Member

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    How are you going to start this thread.

    Ask for help.

    Give use ZERO details about your site.

    And ZERO explanation as to what you may have been doing.

    Seriously?

    What do you expect from us, to channel some deep energy type shit to read your brain through the computer?
     
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    weruncompanies Power Member

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    Great post.
     
  18. SEOLair

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    Did you implement a bunch of 301 redirects?