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Simple method to make more $$$ WITHOUT more traffic

Discussion in 'Affiliate Programs' started by BigHustlah, Dec 30, 2009.

  1. BigHustlah

    BigHustlah Power Member

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    Most people I have talked to either do not know, or under-use their ability to get pay bumps from their CPA networks. When I first started, I didn't either. Proactively seeking pay increases on your offers WILL bring in more money for you every month, bottom line.


    Here's how I get my pay increases:


    1) Find out what several networks pay.
    If you only are approved with a couple networks, look at offer vault dot com. Find your offer, and note which networks are running it, and what the payout is. If you are trying to get a pay increase on an offer that nobody else has, you need to find similar offers with higher payouts.


    2) Ask your AM.
    I have got pay increases via email, AIM, skype, phone, you name it.


    3) Be nonchalant and confident. You don't want to come off sounding needy, desperate, or nervous. Just be confident, and tell your AM that you would love to send more traffic their way, but ABC network has a higher payout. Simply tell them to match or beat that payout, and you will send them some more traffic. Remember, if you STOP sending your traffic to a network, that hurts them. Just letting them know that you have something better elsewhere is usually enough for them to work with you on the payout.


    4) Be consistent. When I first started in IM, the phone calls and emails used to intimidate me. I didn't know exactly what to say, and I was always in fear of getting 'caught' doing something I wasn't supposed to. After I got over that silly fear, I realized that all these phone calls and emails are simply opportunities for me to increase my revenues. I made it a point, that on every live conversation I had with an AM, I would ask for a pay increase. Applying this practice made me look forward to the phone calls! I'd answer their questions...and hey...by the way...I wanted to talk to you about ABC offer I've run with you...


    5) Make a splash.
    With new networks, I would send a bunch of traffic in one day. Nothing ridiculous, but enough to get thier attention. Then I'd not send more traffic until I obtained the pay bump. If you send enough traffic all at once, and then STOP, most AM's will call/email you, wanting to get that big volume back.


    6) Better terms.
    Don't limit your conversations to just more $$$. Go for faster and more frequent payouts. Usually the faster payout conversation comes with a little give/take...they will want you to send X amount of traffic for 30 days, then they will pay you faster, etc. Getting better pay terms usually isn't as easy as getting a higher payout...but as long as you're having the talk with them, you might as well bring it up.


    7) Don't be ridiculous. Ask for something within reason. I have found pay increases between 10 - 40% of what the original payout was to be pretty easy to get. Even if you are talking to the network that is currently your highest payout, explain that the same offer is converting better for you at XYZ network. This will validate the reason for the pay increase. Just stay within reason. You don't want to ask for $50 on an offer that is currently paying you $20. Getting pay bumps should never be a haggle where you go 'high', the AM goes 'low', etc etc. Just tell them what payout you need to send more traffic, and you should be fine.
     
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  2. Jared255

    Jared255 Jr. Executive VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Good tips. Networks will usually give you weeklies if you can get 1k/week for thirty days.
     
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    Very good post. I'm not jnr vip and even I think this should be moved to jnr vip. Mmmmmods!
     
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    I agree with most things you've said... I additional bit of information.. Usually, more frequent payments = more scrutiny on traffic.. Tips like this are essential for newcomers however because with some offers i've gotten a 20-30% raise using techniques like the ones you mention..
     
  5. BigHustlah

    BigHustlah Power Member

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    I just thought I'd bump this thread again...I remembered what a little response it got the 1st time around...and how much money can be made by taking a few steps. It floors me how many people I know, expert IM'ers, who are getting paid less than I am on the same offers simply because they couldn't/wouldn't/didn't ask, or ask the right way.

    Anyways, /rant ... go out there and beat up your AMs for better payouts boys and girls! :biggthump
     
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    redtide1969 BANNED BANNED Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Everything you said in your OP couldn't be more true. I still don't get why so many pubs are scared shitless to get on the phone or interact with their networks/AM's. Keeping a solid network/pub relationship is key to long term success in this game (in more ways that one, as you pointed out).

    To everyone out there: YOU are the one in control, YOU are giving networks what they need to survive, THEY (networks) are a dime a dozen and YOU will benefit greatly by building up that relationship.

    Here's another important "perk" when it comes to network/pub relationships that can make all the difference in a campaign's profitability...

    The better and "smarter" networks will allow their high volume/trusted pubs to create multiple accounts at their network in order to keep any advertiser shaving at bay. This allows you to spread your traffic/leads over multiple publisher ID's and is a huge benefit when it comes to getting as many of your leads credited as possible.
     
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  7. BigHustlah

    BigHustlah Power Member

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    Amen to that. I didn't want to put that in my OP, but for sure is a great way to keep the maximum amount of profit.
     
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    See, reading this is helpful to me because I thought asking your AM every time you talk to them if you could get more money would make them not like you as much, never thought of negotiating my traffic with them, makes a lot of sense..