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Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by aidenhera, Jun 21, 2017.

  1. aidenhera

    aidenhera Elite Member

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    Guys

    Ive read sick theory on seo blog that links in following scheme could get devalued because they are obviously made by automated tool


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    i have a premium set of 100 domains and wanna repeat it over and over on next tiers.

    whats your thoughts? would they get devalued?
     
  2. Apricot

    Apricot Administrator Staff Member Moderator

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    What? I don't understand what your diagram means. Are you saying you're using the same domains on tier 1 for tier 2 backlinks and just interlinking every site?

    And what's happening with your money site? Is nothing linking back to that?

    Huh.

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  4. aidenhera

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    oh shit, admin commented my thread!

    Yeah I asked about using the same domains over and over on the tiers 1 & 2 without anything else. These domains are HQ profiles and webs 20 filtered from bigger list by ahrefs metrics and organic traffic.

    They are already diversified, as milion peoples link to and link from these domains. I wanted to know if its okay to repeat the same domain set under every Tier 1 link or I shouldnt do that.
     
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  7. aidenhera

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    whats wrong ?
     
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    Is that a cluster-fuck of a link wheel?

    Christ dude, I haven't even had my first cup of coffee and you're already making me want to pound Jim Beam.
     
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    for a moment i thought the diagram is still loading ... no offence but this is the worst diagram i have ever seen on BHW
     
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    glad that you are not linking anything to your money site!
     
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    Just a sig promo post with a clickbaity title.
     
  13. Apricot

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    Ok, so.. I'm still trying to get straight what you want to do.
    You have one money site, 100 tier one sites (100 tier ones? What are you using for them?) and 100 tier 2 sites - correct? And you want to know if you can link to all your tier 1 sites with the same 100 tier 2 sites?

    If that's what you're asking - then no, don't do it. You're not tiering - as @JamaicanMoose says, this is more a link wheel. Or even worse, direct reciprocal links.

    Very basic primer on tiered linkbuilding

    (note - this took me 5 minutes to diagram, PLEASE don't use this as any kind of model or definitive guide - as a random stranger on the internet, I don't need that kind of responsibility)

    If I'm correct, this is what you're suggesting:

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    Think about how obvious this looks. I know you've said they're already diversified but (as you've said they're web 2.0) millions of links going to tumblr or wordpress.com doesn't diversify the tumblr-type subdomains you're using as your sites.

    Once you discount those, your tier 1 sites all point to your money site and all your tier 2 sites point to all your tier 1 sites, leaving them with a virtually identical link profile. Doing it like this means that every single site is endangering the entire network - if one gets looked at, they're all vulnerable. On top of that, your money site sticks out like a sore thumb.

    The whole point of tiered link building is to get authority with a large quantity of backlinks, whilst disguising the target site.
    The money site shouldn't have any (low quality) blackhat links pointing directly to it that could raise a flag - instead the backlinks should all point to the tier 1 sites that can be used as buffers and are disposable if any of them get penalised.

    Also, the tiered sites should have other OBL's to unrelated (but niche-relevant) sites to mask the money site. It dilutes the transferred authority but the amount of backlinks you can use by tiering should compensate for that.

    So this is waaay oversimplified but a tiered link network should look more like this:

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    It helps make your money site less obvious and, if one of your tiered sites gets a manual review, there's a lot more OBL's going to sites outside your network, making it harder to identify where the links are being targetted towards.

    Also, by not using the same tier 2 sites to link to each tier 1 site, you're creating silos in the network. If one site gets taken down, the sites directly connected to it are vulnerable but you've only lost one silo. The other silos are comparatively safe with the only connection being via a well-disguised money site.

    I *think* the purpose of your idea is to avoid diluting the transferred authority (link juice) but doing it your way just means that your entire network is extremely vulnerable.
     
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    Well, can't say it better than that myself ^^.

    *Packages up thread #13 to sell on WF for $19.95.
     
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  15. Apricot

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    I'll JV with you, Dave, as I've got an image I can toss in the mix that may give the OP some ideas on how he wants to backlink.

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  17. aidenhera

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    thanks for explanation Admin!

    finally someone who isnt meming but actually came with explanation


    My sites, (which are diversified anyway) are both high quality webs and profiles, so they will not, be penalised by G.

    The reason why I wanted to repeat them over and over is their quality = If any link in your tier 1 had a backlink profile with the same quality as moneysite has, it would be much better, than typical set (quality links on tier 1, and less quality on tier 2).

    And I am not affraid of manual review, what I was scared of was automatic devaluation of links with too similar backlinks profile.

    The random links you included, which I wanted to skip, because CMSes I would use (well, most of them, or just website structures) already have some unwanted links that I cannot remove, so the diversification on per page level is there. Diversification per domain level is also there.



    Anyway Ill do some tests and then decide. Thanks once again @Apricot
     
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    If op follows this exact setup, then he'll be a millionaire, your so nice to share the blue print we should call you Jay Z :)
     
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