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Should society compliment/tolerate the obese?

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  1. Simas9

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    I am not a fan of Ellen or anything. Obesity is now one of the biggest killers in the US. To be honest I am sick of this tolerance and 'oh you are still a beautiful 300 pound 20-year-old' approaches. I am against insulting people but I think people should stop talking about waist lines not making a difference. I am against insults but complimenting and rewarding people for being sick fat is something the future generations will make fun of.

    What's your stand on this?

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    I don't know who this 'Society' guy is but everyone seems to be pretty interested in what he's doing.
     
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    Im tired of the women that have the bullshit "Real women have curves" as an excuse to not go to the gym, if you dont want to exercise just admit it.
     
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    /roparadise troll mode on

    If you can't find slim women to have fun with, don't blame the fat ones for decreasing your chances, just admit it.

    /roparadise troll mode off

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    I dont have a problem boning a fat chick, but I just dont have respect for her if she is going to lie to herself and everyone that real women do not have the time to be in shape. BS, the majority of Americans spend 36 hours a week watching tv. That is enough for most people to get built like crazy.
     
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    Compliment/tolerate is very different from respect.

    We should respect the obese, you don't have to idolize them or give them any incentives not to change. But the opposite is true as well, you shouldn't mistreat someone or ignore them because of their physical condition, lots of obese are due to diabetes or some other hormonal problem, not because they eat a bigmac every 5 horus.
     
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    Some weight issues are down to genetics and/or health problems...

    It is not a given that every man and women goes through life slim and fit.
     
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  8. JudokaJujitsu

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    it is the society yo.its about being right even though you know it is not.like u cant say the word faggot on live tv screen and shit and if she say the girl is fat and need to work out.the whole world will hunt her ass.it is about being right,kinda stupid sometimes,but it is what it is.
     
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    As long as they're not seated next to me on a flight they can keep stuffing their fat blubbery faces as far as I'm concerned.

    Make them pay double I say
     
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    Well you get diabetes from eating so much sugar the bodybard which i don't know in english will go bad over time. Same if you drink too much alcohol.

    You are right, but there were not over 50% obese people 30 years ago. Its definitely problem of people eating fastfood and not having any need to exercise or getting any during the day.


    Also yesterday i read that there is a connection found with fructose syrup causing fatty liver even withot any alcohol consumption + the article even said that fructose will make you eat more.

    I seriously have no respect for people who drive those fucking scooters in walmart because they are too fat and lazy to walk, excluding those having some medical problems at the moment. But still i see no way your getting super obese from any dicease if your not just sitting at your as eating those burgers. People should watch "Supersize me documentary"
     
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    Ambercrombie and Fitch has a very profitable business model. Why are people bitching about it? It is pretty much the same as Ferrari not wanting poor people to drive their cars. Exclusivity is what makes the appeal of the clothes/cars.
     
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    Actually they would love for poor people to buy their cars.....as long as they have the $150K to buy them.


    As far as fat people, they can do and eat whatever they want as long as they dont want the not obese to "adjust" to their standard of living and to start requesting special accommodations from the not obese.
     
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    Sure, a lot of it may be genetics and the propensity to become overweight, but I feel a lot of it has to do with the mindset. For example, many people are genetically-inclined to become addicted to certain drugs or alcohol, etc. Doesn't mean they have to. I understand that that particular example requires the choice to engage in that before the genetic inclinations set in and that people who are genetically-inclined to be overweight are forced into that from birth, but it's still all a mindset.

    With the right attitude, they can have the desire to improve their bodies and follow through with it and choose to not be overweight, though not without work of course. Instead, I feel a lot of people use the genetics card as a reason to forego that mindset. I, for example, am genetically very skinny and scrawny and I could just say, "oh, I'll always be like that," but I gain weight through strength training and am successful with it, so it's not like a body cannot be changed if you have the will to do so.

    So I feel like if someone goes through life obese and doesn't make an effort to change it, then why compliment them? Maybe that's harsh but it's true. That's not to say you should overlook the converse of that - people who are anorexic. They are skinny and technically adhere to society's standards of very skinny is very beautiful, but it's the inverse of obesity and is also a mindset. So obese or anorexic, I feel if someone doesn't make an effort to improve their body to a healthy state - because neither of those states is scientifically healthy - then that speaks to their mentality, self-respect, and other attributes such as motivation, dedication, discipline, etc.

    Those kinds of people don't deserve compliments or tolerance. Note that I am only speaking of those who make no effort to become healthy. We all have to endure struggles in our life to become better people, and just because someone's particular struggle was inherited from birth doesn't give them a reason to ignore it. If someone is anorexic or obese and is working towards improvement through therapy, exercise, responsible dieting, etc, then that is something that should be respected and praised. But no effort is not something society should tolerate or praise.
     
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    You ALSO get diabetes from those, but a large percentage is inherited in which case they couldn't help it.
     
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    How do you figure? People spend 150k on those cars because they are exclusive. Poor people is not the image they want to portray, same with the clothing company. If everyone was driving them, they would be no different than a honda civic.

     
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    I'll admit it, I'm a chubbychaser. I'm not into really fat women, but girls with a little extra weight drive me insane... Supermodel body types never did anything for me.

    Anyway, my view on obesity is:

    Someone is obese, knows it is because of their dietary decisions, and doesn't expect society to change their views to fit them - I'm OK with this.

    Someone is obese and blames something out of their control. Not only do they not make any effort to lose the weight, but they demand that society treat them like god's gift to the opposite sex - I'm NOT ok with this.
     
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    You know what a fat chick and a moped have in common?

    They're both fun to ride, you just don't want to be seen on one!

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    Most weight problems in the western world are down to poverty and lack of education. People dont get thought nutritional values in school and are bombarded with cheap crap fast food. Why bother going to the market and spending $40 on olive oil and fresh vegetables and organic meat when you can feed the whole family at the all you can eat pizza buffet for $9.99 ?
     
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    And now its a disease... Its to comfort the fat fucks so the gov and corps can keep doing what their doing. You'll all bee on a leach by the next decade
     
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    Cut soy, fluoride and sugar out of the obese american diet, they will lose 50 pounds in the first half of the year they are off it...


    before I talk about soy I just want to say fermented forms of soy are 100% healthy for you like the chinese people put on there food soy sauce. But not that white shit they add to dishes.

    Soy in my opinion is the biggest infiltration of poison on American Soil to date. 1 isomil formula bottle fed to one infant child is equal to 5 progesterone birth control pills < Fact. Have any of you people wonder why 12 year olds have gigantic bootys and triple d breast at 12 < soy raising estrogen levels making huge mamory glands and huge glutes in children. Soy has in it estrogen mimicers that mimic the mechanics of estrogen in the body raising your sugar levels estrogen levels and more importantly manufacturing more cancer cells in the body. Oncologist to the uninitiated are cancer doctors that administer chemotherapy amongst other things tell you stop the soy that is no coincidence. Also I have nothign against homosexuals whatsoever have gay people in my family but soy can influence sexual preference at a very very young age where the brain chemistry is just forming around the time of infancy being fed these isomil formulas. Ever wonder why there are more homosexuals running around opposed to 1970's and 80's ? < Soy breh. IT has become a huge staple in the american diet. It's in almost every food as a food enhancer or solid hardener like Soy lecithen. THus the rise of more homosexuals. I would say to date 40% of the homosexual in the united states today were not born that way they were influenced chemically by outside factors and infant diets like soy. I have to find this article about somewhere down in tennesse the children boys were coming out more handsome with more feminene features and turned out to be gay about half of the population of young men turned out to be gay. Well the main hatchery of chickens in that town where this was happening they found estrogen pellets still in the chicken breast when they were cooked whatever way they were prepared. Aten by the pregnant mother then passed onto unborn child or aten in infancy and toddler years.

    You ask in this post should I tolerate obese people. It is not my job to judge or tolerate anyone who can't help themselves. I just look at the facts and obese should aswell. I cut soy out of my diet years ago my body fat is extremely low I have good amount of muscle mass and have the ability to build muscle very fast and if i do not consume the right amount of calories each week I will lose 7 to 10 pounds in a weak. This isn't genes or genetic predisposition this is me cutting out most estrogenic foods out of what I eat. The mayor of new york had the perfect plan cutting out soda intake by half or something. If these politicians look at what's really making people fat High Fructose and Soy they would perform their God given duty to protect people. But nope won't ever happen crooked ass politicians take sizeable donations to their re election campaigns from companys Like Monsanto that produce these products Soy and High Fructose. I don't usually type about these things cause those are huge companys and im just a blade of grass compared to the football fields they are. But this forum is the perfect medium to get the truth out after reading this it's up to everyone now to take control of what you pollute your body with if you cut the fuckin soy out of our food supply americas Obesity rate will cut down by half in 2 years atleast.
     
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