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Should I use Expired Domains for 301 redirect or PBN ?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by guidediet, Sep 15, 2014.

  1. guidediet

    guidediet Regular Member

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    Hello everybody,

    Now I have plan to build one authority website with multiple niches from 1 expired domain. Then I will do 301 redirect 20 other expired Domains to that domain. Although all domain is different niche but they are same broad niche. For example:
    Website 1: acnes niche
    website 2: weight loss niche
    website 3: Eye Diseases

    They are same health niche. I don't know whether they are de-indexed by google or not but when I type site:mydomain.com, i don't see any result. So, I have some question:

    1. It is safe to 301 redirect multiple domains to 1 domain ?
    2. Should I add some content to domains which used to 301 redirect ? It is ok to 301 redirect alone, not add content ?
    3. If one of above domains was de-indexed by google, it will hurt my moneysite ?
    4. You think I should do 301 redirect or PBN to my moneysite ? Actually, I prefer do 301 redirect because it is much easier than PBN :D

    I hope you can give me a advice. Thank you for helping me !
     
  2. jaselc

    jaselc Regular Member Premium Member

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    301 is much easier but far more riskier. PBN would be much better!!
     
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    MissioneR Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Do prefer PBN for your safer side though it is not much easier.. Though 301 is much easier it is highly risky.. So there is no use in thinking back once you get into trouble..
     
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  4. guidediet

    guidediet Regular Member

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    How risky ? My moneysite or 301 redirected domain will be de-indexed ? or both ?
    Thank you !
     
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    Almenocinque Junior Member

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    Your money site may get deindexed or receive a heavy penalty, it all depends and we are making speculations, why not choose a PBN to not feel guilty if something goes wrong in the end ?
     
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  6. habent

    habent Newbie

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    Use PBNs, I would leave 301s for the time being. After you establish a good ranks, you may try to experiment a bit with 301s, A BIT not too much ofc
     
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    If you are not doing many 301, you shouldn't have problems, but pbn is the way to go
     
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  8. arganrecords

    arganrecords Elite Member

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    I you do more 301 your site will be flagged as spam. Go for the PBN, requires more effort but it is much more effective
    (if you're good at hiding footprints).
     
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  9. aj113

    aj113 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Really? Are you speaking from experience? Surely if that's true then it is an easy way to do negative SEO to take down a competitor?
     
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  10. arganrecords

    arganrecords Elite Member

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    Each case is always different but I do not think you can do neg-seo so easily. Depends always from the power of the site under attack.
     
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    If the domains you want to 301 aren't indexed, then that is your first job. Host them with the original content (the more pages the better), then after indexing, 301 them to your new site, with the content on your new domain (if you want it).

    The benefit of PBN is you can control the anchor text.

    PBN is a controlled process, whereas 301 is like a bulldozer.
     
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  12. bignose

    bignose Power Member

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    You'd better not trust 301 fully. Technically speaking, it's some fluctuation of Google's algos. Go figure when they decide to close this bypass. That's why i never 301 to my money sites, only for tiers like PBN.
     
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  13. aj113

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    Well you can't have it both ways. Either 301's will incur a penalty or they won't. G has no idea whether it's negative SEO or BH SEO.
     
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  14. guidediet

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    Thank you all for helping me ! I will build PBN to have much power.
     
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    bikethatmills Newbie

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    With 301, you would be using all 20 sites to link to a single main site, but with pbn, you could build links to many other sites.
     
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    My suggestion is always try to build PBN .301 redirect is totally spam and sooner or later you must be catch up by google if you use 301 redirect .
     
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  17. aj113

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    Fact or just speculation?
     
  18. bizroot

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    Multiple 301 will get your money site flagged... It may not get de-indexed but most probably penalty... You want to make authority site so risking penalty is not good idea.

    PBN as other suggested would be very good idea since you got domains in similar niche... Go for PBN but read before creating one and you will find it better option then any other...
     
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  19. Paulie W

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    Thatsa good question OP, I am infront of the same decision.

    Has anyone experiences with tiered 301´s? If too many 301´s cause a red flag, you could 301 2 or 3 of your most authoritives expired domains to your MS and 301 something like 4 sites (2nd tier) to each of these domains (1st tier).

    Would that be a good idea?
     
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  20. bizroot

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    LOL obiviously speculation how he is gonna confirm any thing on behalf of Google... PBN option is safer then 301 if you are going with 20+ domains... At least I will go with PBN, every one got different strategy...:)