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Should I look for jobs if I am starting to get into the groove of IM?

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by Kvamme, Apr 15, 2010.

  1. Kvamme

    Kvamme Junior Member

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    I just started this make money on line by creating few ad sense sites protected by CPA lead and youtube spamming.Now I am starting to explore other sides of IM like email marketing,CPA etc and slowly getting to know more about that.
    I am in my grad school for Electrical engineering.
    I am just laughing of seeing nobody getting any job and still standing in the long que for career fairs only to be receiving a warm message from the recruiters-"we will call you if we have any opening".
    No one is getting any jobs.Even people who know about programming and other technical stuffs dont have any clue as to how they can make money online.I think making money online appears as a joke to many.
    I just attended a career fair in my grad school and saw all those losers dress up like clowns with all their ties put on looking like playboys in the clubs.They know all details of programming and other technical stuffs.But they still cant pay their rent and bill without asking for help from their parents.
    Most of these losers have high GPA,know almost all things about technical stuffs,but they cant even pay their bills without working in a motel or burger king for 6$ an hour.When I approach them to teach them how they can get some money to their paypal account atleast as a part time basis,they think that thats scam and police will arrest me.
    They think that I am doing some kind of illegal things or they think that I am a fool when i say them that I am making money online.
    I dont want to convince them.
    But I have a doubt as to if should be looking for jobs by the time I graduate.If I am beginning to get used to this internet marketing stuff,I dont feel like going to a field which I absolutely hate?
    Should I also move towards those losers way of thinking.
     
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  2. GreyWolf

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    I think that depends on how much money your making. Having real world experience in business can be beneficial to you when setting up your online business as well. The electrical engineering degree can be really usefull as well because you can use that for selecting niches. Set up some howto manuals or something in a field like how to do an electric car conversion.

    I'd say never let the losers or the gurus make your decisions for you. The losers will say you can't do it, even if you can. The gurus will say you can do it, even if its unlikely that you will. You're the only one that can really decide what you can or can't do. Forge your own path and you'll be happier, and probably achieve more success in the long run.

    Anyone that tells you they think you must be doing something shady because they don't understand online business, just point out the legit success stories: Amazon, Ebay, Google, Myspace, and millions of online stores all started the same place you are. Get a real job if you need to, or work the online business even more if that will bring in enough. Just do what you need to make the living you like and fuck what anyone else thinks you should be doing.
     
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  3. Kvamme

    Kvamme Junior Member

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    But the problem is in electrical engineering(mine is electronics&communication,they call it electrical engineering in US) there are not that much jobs available.Almost everyone is getting a rejection.Some are telling me to move to Networking in the electrical engineering graduate department itself.I am also thinking may be that will help me more as I will be dealing with servers and that will help me in me getting familiar with email marketing.
    I am just wondering is there any fields in electronics which can benefit me in my IM thing?
    I am thinking of probably if I dont get a job in the future I will start selling some of those products related to electronics through IM.
    Also should I teach my colleagues if they are not getting any job on how they can start making some side by side paypal income without working in any burger king or Motels?They think that I am doing some illegal stuffs.WTH
     
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    man in my opinion you jus need a creative mind to make it in online businesses. i personally think ill be doing this for a long time. im making more than my friends that work at mcdonalds and shit. they splitting apartments and i can get my own anytime i want. IM is the shit and as technology evolves and more people want to learn about computers WE will have more opportunities (i hope) lol
     
  5. Kvamme

    Kvamme Junior Member

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    So do you think any courses from my electrical/electronics can help me in my IM niche.
    Also I am not making as much as those gurus are claiming they are making.
    Do you think I should not look for jobs in my field at all?
     
  6. gb5000

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    Though I do wish you the best in finding a sutaible answer to your problems, I want to point something out for a sec....

    Just because a person is trying to get a 9 to five and is doing what he feels is right, does not make them losers!

    All of you guys who sit here and brags abut the life you are living, should apprecaite all of those so called "losers" who are not aware of things in the IM world.

    Because if everyone starts doing this, and by doing this I mean bombard forums like this and shit, your customer base will go down tremendously as everyone will be trying to do the same thing.

    So appreciate people like that, because they and people like them are the ones who truly do put money in your pocket, and they do because they are unaware that they are!

    And besides, some of you still have a looonnnggg way to go before really figuring out the game. Just because your making a little money dosen't mean you made it homies!

    Stop being arrogent with your "look at me, look at them" speech, cause shit can hit the fan ANY MINUTE and you may find yourself back in the same situation you were in before you did all this IM shit in the first place!

    As far as your situation Kvamme, follow your passion. If electrical engineering is you thing, create some vaule that will bring people back to you again and again. Thats a start. Hope that helps!
     
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    Great post. Those you are calling losers are probably calling you the same thing. If they said it to your face you would obviously be offended.
     
  8. tacopalypse

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    IM requires skills just like any other job. sure, everyone can attempt to do it, but only a few will actually make any profits. if you got the skills for IM, then do it. if not, then get a 'normal' job. :)
     
  9. 2Cent

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    I would just keep the IM stuff to yourself. The friends that I have don't understand any of it either...That is fine with me - more money for myself. I would certainly finish up the schooling though...You will have that to fall back on for the rest of your life :)
     
  10. digitali16

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    Follow your heart man. I worked for myself and I worked for a corp before but it was not my thing. Really it takes different strokes to move the world no one is a loser cause they think different. In IM you got to plan and get up and do stuff and TBH if some people had to without knowing how much they make an hour and being told what to do ( They would not do it ). Not knocking anyone that is life real life so IM is not for everyone but take your time and find out for sure if it is for you. Lose some money at this Go broke and if you can stay sane and come back and be profitable then this might be something you can do long term. Also do some time in the so called real world cause it want hurt and it will help you understand who you are marketing to even better from the experience you gain there. It is alright to be happy about what you are doing and your success but no need to down guys just because they see things differently. Take your time and keep all your options open and get your IM tight so you could do both and grow revenue 2x as fast because some of your IM stuff can be semi passive.

    Honestly the real world is changing and some people will say damn what happened some day IMO but if you know how to react on both sides of the table you are in the best position of all if you feel what I am saying dude.
     
  11. GreyWolf

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    Absolutely right. The millions of people working and producing across the country is what makes the wheels of progress turn. The losers hes talking about are the people that think if they can't understand something that is outside of their experience, that they should tell people to stay away from it.

    Those are the losers, not because they can't see outside the box they've built for themselves, but because they try to drag everyone back into the same box with them. There are many working people that are very supportive of other people doing something different, even if they wouldn't try it themselves. There are also many people that aren't even able to make it at traditional jobs, that will still ridicule anyone that tries to do anything else. Those are the losers, the ones that figure just because they can't do it you shouldn't even try. You can tell who the losers are because you won't be able to shut them up about how you should give up on the dream.

    The gurus are the opposite of that. They figure just because they saw a different way of achieving success, anyone that doesn't follow their advice is a sucker. They figure that just because someting works for them it will work for everyone, even though not everyone has the same skill set or temperment. The gurus are the ones that will hype everything to the point of being annoying.

    The best advice is to listen to the gurus and the losers but take it all with a grain of salt. Remember most people on both sides of the fence aren't at the extremes. In other words gather the information and do what is going to be best for you. Not because its what they say, but because its what you decide after evealuating the information yourself.
     
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  12. gb5000

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    I agree with you greywolf, to an extent. But in reality, even those people who may ridicule a person for thinking differently are still somebody's customer at the end of the day.

    I wouldn't cal them losers, even if they don't support your dream. Because looking from a big picture perspective, those are the people who stay at uphappy at their lot in life, who keep all the people who sell face creams, success systems, get rich quick overnight programs, movie theaters, concerts, movie stars, grocery stores, insurance companys, car companys, upscale clothing companys, plastic surgeons, and ALL OF US IN BUSINESS!

    Not everyone is gonna support you, and that, is a good thing!

    YES, A GOOD THING!

    Because you learn, like alot of people who become successful and actually KEEP the money they made (did you get that?), made it off of people who wouldn't have believed them anyway before they became a success!

    And then you would have to deal with envy......but anyway!

    Anybody who gives you and me money is a winner at the end of the day! ;)

    And I for one, appreciate them!

    You should too!
     
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  13. zaedell

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    I don't understand why you're calling them losers. Get off your high horse and realize that just because you've been fortunate enough to be exposed to BHW and IM doesn't make you better than any of them.

    If I had some random dude come up to me telling me how I can make money on the "internetz" I would think it was a scam too. Why would you even approach people to tell them that? This is such a douche bag post.
     
  14. GreyWolf

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    Yeah it isn't how I personally label them, was just explaining the point. The OP doesn't consider them losers either, these people are friends and family. We were just talking about the mindset, and many people fall into that mindset.

    The point I was making is that we can't let other peoples mindsets determine whatwe're going to do. Not everyone has the mindset or even desire to be an entrepenuer. The same is true about traditional employment, it isn't for everyone. We are all different, so its best to know ourselves and make our own decisions. Whatever anyone else has to say is nothing more than information we need to analyze, evaluate, and then decide how to use it or discard it as we determine for ourselves.
     
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  15. Kvamme

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    I am not saying people who work a 9-5 job are losers.I was referring to those people who stand in a long que all day seeking a job under somebody and still not even getting any call.
    Add to that they are not ready to listen to what we are teaching them.
    So my question is,if I end up like them,should I concentrate more on my IM and move forward.I am not earning as much as those gurus are claiming they will make us.
    Just starting out with this.I consider myself a student in IM still waiting to go forward.
     
  16. gb5000

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    Well, my advise,and you may not like this, but....

    FOLLOW YOUR HEART!!!

    If you truly feel like this is something you need to do, for whatever reason, than do it!

    Know one here knows what is best for you, at the end of the day, it has to be you who decides!

    So take what you know, analyze it, and come to your own conclusion.

    Usually, you already know the answer deep inside, and are just seeking confirmation on something that you already know you may have to do.

    Good luck man. Really, follow what you feel is right.
     
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    You should find your own way, if you think you can make it full time in the IM world then do it, but be prepared to work hard, just because you've earnt some money so far you need consistency, you need to earn a decent amount day in and day out to live on.
     
  18. wokaka

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    Dude, just like other businesses, you can always have your own ups and downs in IM. let's say you make $10,000 this month, it doesnt mean you will always make at least $10K for the next 5 years...you might get slapped by Google, your techniques might get a bit too old when you dont learn new ones, and some other bad stuffs can happen to your business anytime.

    The worst part, when your site lose its income you can't "sell" anything while in the real world, let's say you own a clothing factory, you can still sell the machine, the place, etc.

    What I mean is you cant take a look at IM too highly. Sure we can make a lot of money from zero in IM world but you also have to see the risks involved in it. I personally believe IM can be way better when you have some offline business knowledge as well because when you sell real items on the net, it can be even better gold mine compared to promoting affiliate stuffs at some points