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Should I join TGN? (small gaming-related channel, 150 subs/15000 views)

Discussion in 'YouTube' started by MaverickHunterAsh, Dec 17, 2014.

  1. MaverickHunterAsh

    MaverickHunterAsh Newbie

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    Hello everyone, new/greenhorn YouTube content creator here (150 subs, 15000 or so views). I'm mostly active on Twitter and Instagram so my YouTube presence is just starting out. I had some recent videos of mine do fairly well in terms of viewership, and now I've found myself with a partnership offer from TGN.

    I've done a lot of research and it's pretty hard to get a definitive answer as to whether or not I should accept this offer. The overall impression I'm getting is that joining a multi-channel network isn't a great idea if you're a small channel because, though it can get you more subs, the 60/40 split offered by TGN will further cut into your already small earnings with YouTube. I'm also aware that networks like TGN often have content scouts just mindlessly sending out emails to all the small/beginning YouTubers they can find, so I'm not under any illusions of importance or anything here.

    If I could get some advice from more seasoned/veteran YouTubers here, I'd really appreciate it. I'm fully open to the idea of joining if it's a good idea, but I'm really in over my head here (for now) and I'd like to be more educated before moving forward with a decision.

    I do have it in writing that my content remains owned by me before, during, and after the TGN partnership, and that I can leave whenever I want (with a 30-day notice), but I get the impression that things won't be quite that cut and dried if/when I partner with them, and I've read that getting your channel back after exercising the option to leave can be very difficult and take a long time.

    So the overall impression I have is that partnering with a network like TGN can be good if (a) you can get a better offer than 60/40 and (b) your channel is already established/larger, but it's less useful/beneficial for smaller channels such as mine.

    Anyway, any advice on this would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
     
  2. Plus44

    Plus44 Power Member

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    I personally would wait until my channel got bigger and find a better network, but if it really is no lock-in you have nothing to lose... Just make sure you read over that contract very carefully.

    If you're unhappy with the 60/40 split try to negotiate a better offer and change the font or the color of your post. It's hurting my eyes.
     
  3. DFWi Reaper

    DFWi Reaper Regular Member

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    Well look at it from a numbers POV could help. I don't know much about TGN but here's my input.

    Scenario #1 Small Growth of Channel: You currently make say, 100$ a month with your channel. You join them, get ONLY 5% more viewers, and your income bumps 5%. You're now making 105$ a month, but have to split it 60/40 so you now only make 63$ a month. Your channel grew a bit, makes a little more money, but you're making less with no growth potential. This would be a bad choice.

    Scenario #2 Big Growth Spike but Small Future growth: You currently make the same 100$. You join them and get 2x more viewers, and your income doubles as well. You're now making 200$ a month, and are making 20% more after the 60/40 split at 120$. Your channel spiked, your income grew, but your growth potential will now be smaller. This could be a good choice, if you're okay with a spike then small growth.

    Scenario #3 Decent Initial growth But Continuous Future Growth: You currently make 100$. You join them and get 5% more viewers. Your income still drops to 63$, but if the grown steadily grows say 5% it will eventually pass your current growth, and continue to grow.

    Kind of explained that poorly. But look at it from a "how will this affect my channel in the long run". Will it help you grow a lot, or could you do better yourself and get something better down the road.
     
  4. tangento

    tangento Junior Member

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    You're saying you only have 15,000 total views? If so that's not good at all the networks will just be making money off you and you'll never get paid

    Now If you you were getting 15,000 daily views I'd say join a better network with a better split more like 90/10 or 80/20
     
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    Very true. I'm assuming OP has a gaming channel since the TGN recruiters keep spamming him their affiliate links.

    YouTube does not allow creators to monetize any video game footage with AdSense so it's not like he's making any ad revenue right now anyway.

    He wont find anything better than a 60/40 right now with a channel that small. At least if he partnered with them he can start making money... It will most likely be chunk change, but still real money.

    And the beauty of it is... It's a no lock-in contract. When his channel starts to get more viewers, he can leave TGN and find a better network.
     
  6. eyesofconfuse

    eyesofconfuse Registered Member

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    With this, you need to ask them and yourself: why do they get that percentage or any percentage at all? Is there someone dedicated who will be working with you on creating content, do they help you with collaborations of decent sized youtubers who you could link with and grow off of?

    It can be a good deal at times, but not in this case imo. Since this appears to be a mass email sent out to who knows how many channels. In hopes of bites for a chunk of that percentage, instead of genuine interest of wanting to work with you.