Should I continue my journey after 18 years of failures?

You can defo learn a lot in a short period of time that compliments you current knowledge, and look for something that is an easier money maker, in an existing vibrant market, instead of trying something new for a while. I picked up animation skills, and I'm now at the forefront with my animation in terms of quality and character movements. I never thought It would be this easy to take what I already knew about photoshop/illustrator and learning software to master blender too, and a new product character animator from adobe. It took me 3 months, and now, my estimated time at my current release date schedules, have me on track for a good monitization after a couple of years on youtube worst case. Plus my animations are ever green, and already "inspired" heavily by whats out there, so I benefit from similar traffic recommendations. Like BTB said being an entrepreneur, means knowing when to pivot too, that's my personal example of what I done, when I bought myself a tablet for drawing on. I still have all my websites, and other software projects in the background, but I want to push first while I can on something that is working already with results for me, and take full advantage of it if I can, even if It means a couple of years to build up the channel. (At the same time while my animations render) I'm drawing t-shirt designs! lol diversifying with my tablet! :)
 
I think a big problem is that when I don't see any kind of success or when I run out of marketing ideas I give up, usually after a couple of months.
This. They say (I've read anyway) it takes up to 7 years to fully launch a company (successfully).

A couple of months is just not enough time to get momentum going.
 
I'm a developer and I've been working on side projects since 2006, so 18 years so far. I mostly did various SaaS websites and apps. There were social projects, messengers, networks, services etc. I really tried it all. But all of my projects failed. I did learn from them and I improved every time but at the end it led to failure.

For context, I'm 32 years old, I live in a smaller EU country. My budget is limited. Mostly I've tried to push into the USA market for obvious reasons but after years I realized that I don't understand US market and mentality, also I have no connections or history there to be able to grow organically. Also my budget is limited and not enough for the US market. If I try to use social networks for promotion it always pushes me to my country because of geolocation. I've tried to use VPN, it kinda worked (on TikTok), but as soon as I break the usage or turn on GPS or any other way that they can detect me, they push me back to my country.

I also tried to do something in my country, but it's very limited. I created a buzz maybe 2-3 times but the market is bad. There are neighboring countries that speak the same language, but they are all closed inside their own borders, so the product/service/website/app rarely breaks through. But since community is smaller overall it's easier to get attention from people and media.

I've tried to partner up a couple of times but it didn't go very well. Mostly I've saved my money to buy an apartment for myself so I couldn't invest a lot of money in advertising my products.

I think a big problem is that when I don't see any kind of success or when I run out of marketing ideas I give up, usually after a couple of months. So right now I'm on a crossroads, should I take a long pause or keep pushing? Currently, I feel like giving up completely.

You told reason of your failures.
Free traffic is reason of all failures, not only in SaaS but also in CPA and all forum topics.
People are sitting here for years and praying to get success, but they don't want to invest in advertising.
 
What's the project you would say was the closest to success? and is there anything you can take on what you did well compare to others?
Hard to say, there was one adult project that I made money off of, but it wasn't sustainable long term.
 
Try spams, free sources of traffic, affiliate marketing. If something stops working, fix problems like an engineer and revive your journey.

Now free doesn't mean free...

It's just that you invest $1k in free traffic every week to get $2k back. And continue to add money every week until it caps, usually at $5k a week profit or so (for me that'd be $12k gross). Then you attack another social media site or another niche or start real business, depending on your framework.

It's called free not because it's free but because it's available to everyone. But the edge is MONEY and automation.

A kid that runs a YouTube channel is using free traffic. You want to be like 10000 kids running 10000 channels. Now that'd give you unfair advantage making you at least hundreds of bucks every day.

Don't focus on the US. It'll limit you as hell. If you're not living in the US, it's not that cool. If you remove these limits off your mind, you'll see broader image. Don't focus on one problem that hard as it becomes an excuse. You can find a workaround.

Our life is trance that we program with our thoughts, visualizations, emotions. Get a psychologist if you can't figure out why you focus on limits instead of solutions.

These "but but but". Replace it with deeper alternative.

Regards
 
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Yes those were all MVPs


I had a job all along
What are you doing sounds like "startup mindset". Startups fail at a rate of 90 - 100%. It's the highest cemetery of failed ventures among all ventures humans have ever taken.

Imagine taking a flight would have 90% of failure or any other thing. So why do you do that? Even drugs are safer, literally heroin and cocaine don't result in that many failures as startups.

I tried it once. Never again without big budget. I also did that for someone else - they lost hundreds of thousands. It's pointless if you can't sell before engineering. First sell, then engineer. Nobody wants your product? Don't create it.

I don't want to offend anyone but people who do startups have 0 idea about business and just copy someone's idea of having an idea. But idea of a product isn't full business stack. It's like saying a car is just an engine. No!!!

Or maybe even gas. Engine is MVP. Lol

Example, I have couple programs coded by myself, each is multiple modules. Now selling it as SaaS would probably make me $50 per month and I would pay more for advertising costs. If I run it myself and invest money into it, I can turn it into $20k per month or more. I just created something I can use myself and don't care about audience that'd use it.
 
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I may be wrong but i think you lack a good understanding of how to market products or services.

You know how to create them but you dont know how to generate traffic. This is a very common situation among developers.

Most developers could probably study any technology and build whatever but have absolutely no clue on how to sell stuff. They simply dont understand how internet marketing works.
 
I may be wrong but i think you lack a good understanding of how to market products or services.

You know how to create them but you dont know how to generate traffic. This is a very common situation among developers.

Most developers could probably study any technology and build whatever but have absolutely no clue on how to sell stuff. They simply dont understand how internet marketing works.
I completely agree
 
No don't quit... I'd say that you need to change your daily activities and to liberate your mind from everything you've been taught.

Take 4 - 7 days of meditation and revising your assets and current situation and then start to notice everyday problems you have.
Think abt what you want to do to get a successful venture and start scaling
 
I have full time job that pays for everything. My side projects are failing
If you think your life sucks, come to Madagascar.

OP, you haven't reached rock-bottom. Have you ever gone for a day, say two, or a week without food? Zero money to buy anything. No home, no family, no relationships, inside a country with civil war?

Try visiting our third-world countries, and it might completely change your perspective of life.
 
Don't lose hope, even if you feel like you've failed after 18 years. Keep trying to achieve your goals in life, because you can always learn more.
 
No don't quit... I'd say that you need to change your daily activities and to liberate your mind from everything you've been taught.

Take 4 - 7 days of meditation and revising your assets and current situation and then start to notice everyday problems you have.
Think abt what you want to do to get a successful venture and start scaling
Or resort to girlfriends and connection with yourself. Meditation is weak compared to full packet of gifts for yourself.

When it comes to poverty, I don't have to look far. Poor people are evil off frustration.
 
Hard to say, there was one adult project that I made money off of, but it wasn't sustainable long term.
Why it wasn't sustainable? Either way, I'd say don't give up, you''ve definitely amassed a great deal of experience and know-how along the way, but perhaps your SaaS projects have failed because you're great at making them but not selling them. It's hard to do everything on your own, so either find someone who could help you out in that front or try learning of new things yourself. For example, you'd find plenty of info right here how to get your SaaS to markets of other countries with proxies, etc.
 
Why it wasn't sustainable? Either way, I'd say don't give up, you''ve definitely amassed a great deal of experience and know-how along the way, but perhaps your SaaS projects have failed because you're great at making them but not selling them. It's hard to do everything on your own, so either find someone who could help you out in that front or try learning of new things yourself. For example, you'd find plenty of info right here how to get your SaaS to markets of other countries with proxies, etc.
SaaS is like running a burger place. You just can't do it solo. You can't!!

It's more complex than normal software as usually design work and UI code is involved. So it's at least 6 positions if you include sales and business development. Realistically you can do 2 max... So get a team of experts.
 
Try Hard, Never Give Up, Success Will Come For Sure.
Such a cliche motivation won't get anyone far and is a recipe for emotional drain.

What's gonna work is building habits.

Practice business everyday for 2 hours a day at least for 60 days. At first it will take effort but then you'll get used to that. With time you'll reach 6 hours. Should you do more than that? Sometimes. But dedicate 2 - 3 hours a day to learning once you have business habit after months.

During that time test ideas, do some calls, write some program. Just don't overdo in the beginning.

Add more time and once you get a decent payment, focus fully on it.

Business is not a life or death situation. It takes long term mindset. It's like gym but for wallet.
 
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