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Should I buy all 3 (Senuke, Scrapebox, Xrumer) or just go with Linkpushing?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by kupo, Apr 19, 2011.

  1. kupo

    kupo Junior Member

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    Hey guys, black hat newbie here. I was thinking: should I buy Senuke, Scrapebox, and Xrumer and learn how to use all 3, or just be lazy and go with Linkpushing.net?

    I've read some reviews of Linkpushing, and someone said it's basically Senuke but having someone else do all the fancy stuff for you.

    What do you guys think?
     
  2. ramtripper

    ramtripper BANNED BANNED

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    i did 12 pushes from them... on a debt relief niche, literally got pretty much nothing ot of it...

    im gonna try another type of link push soon with only very high pr sites... tell u how that goes (its quite a bit more expensive though)
     
  3. kupo

    kupo Junior Member

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    Shit.

    Did you see any ranking improvement at all? Or did you get absolutely nothing?

    I'm thinking of just going with linkpushing (and then Scrapebox blast the linkpushes) because people say it leaves no footprint, unlike Senuke.
     
  4. BassTrackerBoats

    BassTrackerBoats Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    A well balanced backlinking program is generally best to build a solid foundation.
     
  5. kennyhoc3

    kennyhoc3 Junior Member

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    I had a positive experience with them, bumped my site up quite a few pages! so i guess if its a new site it will do well!
     
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  6. Seppinger

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    I'd take SB first. With $ 47 it's a steal. Can't do anything wrong here.
     
  7. Risaharada

    Risaharada Junior Member

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    I suggest you buy Scrapebox and Xrumer. They are very great if you know how to use them.

    But I dont' know how to talk about Senuke, I'm using it a long time, it‘s tasteless to eat but waste to throw away. Maybe I still don't know how to use it .
     
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    Hmm, I did put a comment here but was about the time the DB server crashed.

    Anyway....

    I have only heard good things about BassTracker's link pushing service and have been thinking about using it as a foundation for our low level accounts.

    That being said, you can't really put owning SB, XR and SENuke in the same basket as subscribing to a link pushing service. With those three tools you can do some serious damage (with XR alone I ranked a brand new domain yesterday that has brought in over $800 today).

    From what I understand Linkpushing is basically a custom footprintless 2.0 network. Really I would suggest then hitting the properties created with XR or some relevant SB comments.

    -aReJay
     
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  9. mordred

    mordred Registered Member

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    Imo start with one or two programs till you get proficient at using them, then get more as you need.
     
  10. RedWolf

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    start with Scrapebox then senuke then xrumer
     
  11. SecretMoney

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    if you have enough money,go for it!
     
  12. clyde

    clyde Elite Member

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    Before you buy those tools why don't you try the services for them first?

    Then decide for yourself which type of backlinking works best for your niche.
     
  13. ezlegion

    ezlegion Senior Member

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    Hi iw1iw1,
    They all have there place (senuke, sb and xrumer) and have plenty of followers and therefore must produce great results but each one will require brainpower and time to master.

    Linkpushing requires, compared to the other 3 mentioned above, much less time to master simply because there is really nothing to master. You enter the name you want to call the push, keywords, url, general category type, (diy, automotive etc etc) and then hit, 'Submit Keyword Details' and it's done.

    There is a guy in BHW called hellomotow (I think) who offers some of the above (senuke, sb) in a package so it might be worth you having a look see if you can find him.

    For me though all these things depend on how good you are at using them and also no matter what you use if you pick the wrong keyword nothing will work.

    I'm somewhat of a dumbass and therefore it's linkpushing for me all the way simply because it's just so simple. I can set up a push and carry on with something else.

    I hope this helps and good luck:)
     
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  14. seoguru14

    seoguru14 Registered Member

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    if you have so much money..try and give your review.
     
  15. kupo

    kupo Junior Member

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    Do you have a well balanced backlinking program or did you only use linkpushes on your debt relief niche?

    Yup, that's what I hear. I do that with one of my websites I'm trying to rank into page 1. Currently it's at page 2 for a highly competitive keyword.

    Did you blast your linkpushes/properties at all or did you achieve your results with only linkpushes?

    So Senuke hasn't improved the rankings of any of your sites?

    WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You bought the domain, and one day later it brings you $800? :eek:

    I think you mean brand new domain as in a week old or something, right?

    And did you blast "link pyramids" or "linkwheels" or "linkpushes" or "web 2.0 properties" or "buffer sites" which link to your domain, or did you blast your domain directly?

    Can you share some results you've had with linkpushing? Like how long it took to rank for what keywords and how many linkpushes you did for them and whether or not you blasted your linkpushes, or just used linkpushes without any blasting... etc.
     
  16. edgematch

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    $800/day from a brand new site with the help of XR. My God. Then that means you should be doing $3,000,000/month at least with all your sites.

    Oops sorry! I thought you had 100 brand new sites. But maybe you have 1,000 and most of them are aged. So you should be having $30,000,000/month. Sorry again mate for my first calculation. I am no good at maths.
     
  17. ezlegion

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    Hi iw1iw1,
    To test I did just 1 push on a new site that I was doing no other seo at all to, nothing.

    So I did 1 push on it, 12 days later it climbed significantly. I really can't remember specifics (you will find my post in Basstrackerboat's linkpushing thread)...
    ...and I think that's good point to finish on, threads.

    Before I subscribed to linkpushing I did the following:

    • I read the entire thread, every single post
    • I then checked out all of Basstrackerboat's (Greg) other threads
    • I then had a check through alot of the guy's threads who actually posted on the linkpushing thread and used the linkpushing service
    All in all, iw1iw1. You need to read threads because you can't possibly make an informed decision until you do. Most people's advice to you will be sound, from their point of view/experiences, this however may not be right for you.

    You gotta put in the hard work man and read, read, read.:)
     
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  18. lifco

    lifco Regular Member

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    I would just buy xrumer its that simple

    Blast to warez sites for the first month, this will bring you cash back for the next few months

    After that month start doing your own sites, then back to the warez sites and then back to your sites

    So in no time you have your money back

    Remember xrumer can post to any site with time and the ai system
     
  19. havingadabble

    havingadabble Regular Member

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    Before jumping right in you could always look at this thread:

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    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/buy-sell-services/273025-super-cheap-vps-senuke-scrapebox-best-spinner-pre-installed.html
    If you used hellomotows VPS to learn for a couple of months you wouldn't have to shell out too much in the early days. Although the VPS doesn't have Xrumer installed you could always buy some blasts.

    Just my $ 0.02
     
  20. BassTrackerBoats

    BassTrackerBoats Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    I own SB and use that at times and am familiar on a conversational level with the other tools you are asking about so my thoughts are going to be somewhat limited... you would get a better well rounded suggestion from someone else.

    My service aside, to get your sites ranked long term you should really build a variety of backlinks to them... links from article directories, blogs, web 2.0 properties, social bookmarking, forums, etc and they should be both do and no follow.

    That is the long term approach and that will serve you and your sites well if you follow that building suggestion.