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Should I bother with this Onpage-Optimizations?

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by SebastianJu, Feb 10, 2010.

  1. SebastianJu

    SebastianJu Power Member

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    At the moment I want to optimize a webpage with Onsite-Seo. So I have a couple of questions...

    1. Has the title-tag (I dont mean the metatag) a influence in seo? I mean the one that can be given to nearly every html-element. For example a img-tag can have a alt(for screenreaders to describe the image) and a title(which will appear as a popuptext when the mouse is over the element). And this title-element can be put to nearly every html-element. Its some work so I want to know if its worth the effort.
    I have read meanings that google isnt taking title into consideration. But I have read too that this is good for seo. So whats right?

    2. Microformats are used to explain what kind of content you have. So Im wondering how you use it. At the moment I think the use is very limited. It can be put to adresses and so on which would be important for local businesses but which microformat is suitable for normal content I didnt found.
    So at the moment I only know how to use microformats for adresses and so on. Or are there microformats to describe simple normal content? For example a offer, a self-explaination and so on?

    Thats all... :)
     
  2. lanta99

    lanta99 Junior Member

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    1. Even if the title tag doesn't matter SEO-wise you should optimize it since it is what gets shown on the SERPs 2. Seriously...microformats are some third-party categorization tool. DW about them.
     
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  3. lonojoe

    lonojoe Junior Member

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    Who said title doesnt matter in SEO, title, description, even 1st para of your page matters in SEO. alternative text for image is also important. header tags and all meta tags are important. Once google gave high weightage to title and all, after the missuse done by all, they reduced the weightage. But still have some.
    Do you know when someone searches in google your may be in some page, check what you see there with URL, that will be your title and description, sometimes your 1st para. So keep all things in mind.

    Its worth working. :)

    Important : Give important KWs first, limited characters they show, use wisely. Humans read this, so make it human friendly also spider friendly.

    I dont know what a Microformat is. Oops. Will learn soon, I am hearing it for the first time.

    All the best
     
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  4. heffe

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    It looks like you're referring to the title ATTRIBUTE vs the title TAG. Yes, title attributes can be added to various HTML tags, but the only one that I've heard of having any SEO value is adding it to links.

    The value you get out of this is most likely minimal, so I wouldn't spend too much time on it. However, if you are making new sites and have the option of adding the title attribute to your internal links, it definitely won't hurt.
     
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    On the topic of microformats, they can be very useful to SEO, especially since most people aren't using them yet.

    The best use I've seen so far is adding the proper microformat markup to reviews of products. If you format it correctly, Google may include your numerical review (8 out of 10 for example) in the search results as a number of stars.

    Do some searches in Google for specific products and you'll see what I mean... gold stars in the search results inline with the title and description.

    edit: as an example, search for "ironman xbox review" in the big G and see what comes up.
     
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  6. SebastianJu

    SebastianJu Power Member

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    I meant the attribute. Not the meta-tag. Sorry for not choosing the right word... :)
    Actually I think a title-metatag ist the most important onsite-seo that can be done.
    Seems they think the same way:
    Code:
    http://www.seomoz.org/article/search-ranking-factors
    But I would say backlinks are most important than all other factors.
     
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  7. SebastianJu

    SebastianJu Power Member

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    Interesting with the stars. I searched at microformats.org to learn the codes that are available and found some. But I still dont know if there are microformats that can be used for simple info-content. For example it seems many people are creating nichesites and writing content for a special keyword. So the content is only info. I didnt find a microformat for that.
    Or a business website. Where someone describes the offer, who he is and so on.
    It seems to be very limited at the moment or do I miss something?
     
  8. lonojoe

    lonojoe Junior Member

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    You meant attribute, I thought the other way.

    What you said is true, backlinks or inbound links are important offpage optimization.

    What if you have a mind and no body, I think this way :D

    Both onpage and offpage are like body and mind.... Both are important.

    Its easy for a guy who knows SEO to increase PR from 0 to 3 or something within some month, above that, you should pay attention to onpage also.

    I am sure you might not feel it's importance, but if all other factors of your sites and your competitor's sites are same, and you failed in onpage, I am sure your competitors site will be above yours. :)

    All the best
     
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  9. Shirley7788

    Shirley7788 Newbie

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    Trust me, it's all about off page SEO and you shouldn't put too much efforts on on-page SEO BUT never ignore it importance.

    If somebody tell you to put your efforts @ 90% on page and 10% off page ratio, stay close to that friend, and "reverse" any meaning of his/her advice to you at future.
     
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    RamChaturvedi Supreme Member

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    If you are talking about the on site SEO...why not take some help from this site!! :)

     
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  11. SebastianJu

    SebastianJu Power Member

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    Thanks for the tip.
    At the moment I use
    Code:
    http://www.woorank.com
    which seems to have the best tips so far for optimizing when it comes to know what can be changed.
     
  12. SebastianJu

    SebastianJu Power Member

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    Yeah, I think youre right. Somehow I think it could have a bigger importance that no w3c-errors are on the site but I think the importance of onsiteseo is the way you said.