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Shaving at C2M

Discussion in 'CPA' started by RedOctobre, Jul 5, 2014.

  1. RedOctobre

    RedOctobre Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Has anyone experienced serious shaving issues over at C2M? I'm thinking of applying, even though they sometimes make the process a headache, but I've heard that they shave like crazy.

    I work with a few other networks already - Envyus, XY7, MB, etc, so I don't need to mix in C2M offers if they won't perform as well, but I wanted input from people running their stuff.

    Thanks,
    Red
     
  2. Paper-Boy

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    C2M is a great network. Shaving happens throughout all the cpa networks. Never heard any issues with C2M.
     
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    Try to get same offer in any other network and see how big difference there is.
    Also C2M is quite legit network as i know, so not sure if they would shave, also there could be advertising scrubbing your leads to optimize and make them profitable too.

    One thing to mention, if they use CAKE marketing tracking software, then they could easily do that, as they have in-shaving option, some do use that, especially new networks to make $$$ back for software, CAKE cost $1,5k a month, so 5% shaving could cover the expenses, so you got to be really careful with CAKE.

    Not all networks do that, but better be safe :)
     
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    Ming the Merciless Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    I work with an affiliate that utilizes CAKE. I had no idea about the "built-in" scrubber. WOW! Thanks for that lil bit of info!
     
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    Not all people use that of course, and there are ton of networks who use CAKE but dont shave, they might use CAKE to enable shaving to fraud traffic. You really need to watch out on that, but dont asume all networks with cake shave , still ton of them are legit and pay on time and pay full amount

    Scrubbing and shaving are 2 different things :)
    Let me explain

    Shaving is when network or advertisers dont count all leads, lets say you make 100 leads, but you get counted only 95 , they steal your money and keep to themselves.
    Scrubbing is different, its when advertiser optimize traffic to be profitable for them, it dont happen instantly, it starts to happen when some amount of leads are sent, If you send $500 worth of leads, and advertisers make $450, they are in -$50 loss , but now they know, they pay more than they make, so with 10% scrubing they could break even or profit, and thats when you would see -10% decrease so advertisers can back out your traffic.

    I hope i explained it quite well lol
     
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  6. RedOctobre

    RedOctobre Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Thanks for the input, folks! I suppose the best way to find out is to split test the offers - so I'll do that.

    Best,
    Red
     
  7. Ralph Urner

    Ralph Urner BANNED BANNED

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    They do shave. But popular choices for aff. networks shave even more. If you want to build serious affiliate business, network with private guys. You need to trust them and they offer best return. Don't be afraid to go even direct if you doing serious volumes 400-500 sales on diet/skin rebill full sale/trial is ideal volume to go direct.