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Shadowmaker for WH site

Discussion in 'Cloaking and Content Generators' started by pk_69, Jun 12, 2010.

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    pk_69 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    I wonder if anybody can share an opinion and personal experience about using shadowmaker (or any other good cloaker) to promote WH site.

    How effective is it?
    Is there any risk for WH site?
    Can you do it for your established WH site?
    WIll you use if for your client's site to promote?

    Thank you
    pk69
     
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    MisterGemini Senior Member

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    Very effective
    Nope none
    Yes you can
    Have many times

    Looking forward to hearing about your success with it :)
     
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    blackhit Super Moderator Staff Member Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Actually you don't use it to promote a WH-site (as with articles, web2.0, bookmarks, blog/forum spamming, etc.)

    You promote the shadowdomains, rank for keywords, direct the traffic from the shadowdomains to your WH-site.
     
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    Yeah technically that's true. You are just redirecting traffic. Really though, getting traffic to your WH domain is effectively promotion. :)
     
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    How effective is it?

    Cloaking, like anything, depends on certain variables.
    Yes it can be effective.


    Is there any risk for WH site?

    Of course..anyone who suggests cloaking a WH domain is not at risk is pulling your leg..
    But..The only sites I have lost recently were ones I had spammed massive backlinks to.
    Create a clone of your WH site..and send your cloaked traffic to that..if you lose it..big deal
    That my friend is the safest option.!!


    Can you do it for your established WH site?

    Yes..but you would be mental too.
    Use normal SEO on that..cloak to the copy..too easy..:D

    WIll you use if for your client's site to promote?

    If you cloaked sites..that point to your clients site..then..if you bumble it..you could get your clients site deindexd.
    Could..being the operative word..
    But...from another angle..if that worked so well..then everyone would cloak(badly) feeder sites and point to a competitors site too get it deindexed..
    The more aged the WH domain/more backlinks/more pages indexed etc..the more "protection" you have too a degree for cloaking the root domain..
    Make a copy site..or take the risk with the clients site..your choice..
    :)
     
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    Think you misunderstood his questions and are not familiar with the product.

    First, when it comes to shadowmaker, the support they offer includes their years of experience in how to properly cloak. Second, They would NEVER EVER EVER advise a client to install their program within their own WH/company site. Never. They absolutely advise clients to use multiple domains on multiple IPs that have no affiliations with their company/wh site at all. They will walk through getting everything setup correctly to make sure nothing ever happens to their primary WH site.

    To date, and this is no word of a lie, I am not aware of any shadowmaker client losing their company/WH site while using their product.

    Based on understanding these basics about the product offer, I know that his questions were in regards to domains other than the WH site. Your answers however are on the assumption he is asking about installing it INTO his WH site. That's just not right, and will only confuse him.
     
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    Think you misunderstood his questions and are not familiar with the product.

    I own the product..

    First, when it comes to shadowmaker, the support they offer includes their years of experience in how to properly cloak.

    If you go through any cloaking threads..you will see me extolling the software.


    Second, They would NEVER EVER EVER advise a client to install their program within their own WH/company site.

    Agreed..

    Never. They absolutely advise clients to use multiple domains on multiple IPs that have no affiliations with their company/wh site at all. They will walk through getting everything setup correctly to make sure nothing ever happens to their primary WH site.

    Sure..

    Your answers however are on the assumption he is asking about installing it INTO his WH site. That's just not right, and will only confuse him.

    We are both guessing..what he meant..
    :);)
    If there is zero risk(which I doubt) to a WH domain..by pointing cloaked pages at it from another ip..then I stand corrected..
     
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    Good... think he has got a balanced answer then. :)
     
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    Great to see some knowledge here...

    Here's one of my setups...please shoot at it if I miscalculated it somewhere.

    Shadowdomains redirect to Site A.

    Site A checks the referrer and based on it shows either Site A or the WH-site.
    Site A cloaks the WH-site so the visitor assumes he's still on site A.

    WH-site shows up as the referring site in the merchants log.
     
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    guys, thank you all very much
    I really appreciate your help and feel compelled to contribute too back to the forum I got so much in short period from

    pk
     
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    I feel that I don't have enough understanding of the process. Do you have any suggested read on the topic? I feel that I really need to learn the science behind the game.

    Thank you
    pk