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SH*TLIST againts twanofzo for scamming

Discussion in 'The Shit List' started by bornthisway, Feb 16, 2017.

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    I never thought I would make one but here we go. Usually I let it go or usually I am safe with people who I deal with. But I am not making this sh*itlist out of rage that I will lose couple of bucks but I like my respect and ethics more than anything that I can trade for. So making this against @Twanofzo His skype is "twanzwart"

    On Tuesday, @Twanofzo made this thread https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/g...h-book-and-do-some-tasks.916274/#post-9751578 as you can see, I sent my skype and he added but it didn't turn up so I added him and it automatically got connected.

    He wanted someone who would read a 100 pages book and to write/make 1 task from 3 categories each. We made a deal of 16.56 Euros via skrill. He said he will pay everything at the end of work, I denied and asked him half of it upfront even though I take whole upfront payment always but since he has been on BHW since 2014 I assumed he is legit. He paid half upfront and I conformed it. Next day he said the tasks I chose were supposed to be different. One of it was similar with someone else he hired, he wasn't clear with the instructions and we decided to add 1$ extra to the amount that he has to pay me in order for me to do another task.

    I delivered him the work via email way before deadline. He acknowledged the same and didn't respond after the delivery of the work.I just assumed that he must be busy translating it to dutch since he claims to be a student and has to submit it by translating to dutch which is none of my business but just to be clear with the situation. After 2 hours he texted me with a query I explained him and he said he will pay me after being done with the translation which I told him that I assumed.

    After 27 hours I text him and he starts acting up........... well the rest of the general fraud story is what you know? I asked him if he wants to deal it in a professional way? He doesn't like it since kids are kids at the end of the day. He started showing his ugly side that I don't welcome at all. He insulted motherland but the twist here is that he is ASIAN HIMSELF probably Indian or Pakistani. How tragic right? He sent abusive words in Hindi and deleted them And on and on.

    He has to pay me 9.26 Euros and as you see, he doesn't give a damn about his account on BHW.
    Sorry mods for the trouble, usually I handle it all myself but we got to eliminate people who don't deserve it.

    PS - I do write articles and no one has ever complained about it to me. Don't judge by the way one talks on chats or comments as it does not reflect someone's work on an article. I use 'u' in chats that doesn't mean I use it in articles too. Be a moron and welcome to the party if you assumed that.

    Attaching necessary stuff that he deleted during skype convo and I can make a ton of excuses if I want to but lets keep it professional -

    14-Feb-17 9:26:00 PM] YT King (SMM): Hey? From BHW

    [14-Feb-17 9:27:04 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Yo!

    [14-Feb-17 9:27:07 PM] YT King (SMM): Couldn't get your request, so requested myself but its already connected. Have we talked before?

    [14-Feb-17 9:27:09 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Thanks for being my hero m8

    [14-Feb-17 9:27:13 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Nope

    [14-Feb-17 9:27:21 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Looks like I just added you or something, idk

    [14-Feb-17 9:27:26 PM] YT King (SMM): Haha its ok, I usually do a lot of reviews and stuff so yep:)

    [14-Feb-17 9:27:43 PM] YT King (SMM): Yea you did.

    [14-Feb-17 9:28:08 PM] YT King (SMM): So what are the details and the offer for that task?

    [14-Feb-17 9:28:17 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Give me one sec.

    [14-Feb-17 9:30:20 PM] YT King (SMM): sure

    [14-Feb-17 9:38:40 PM] YT King (SMM): ?

    [14-Feb-17 9:56:53 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Okay

    [14-Feb-17 9:57:01 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Sorry for the late response./

    [14-Feb-17 9:57:34 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: So did you already read some books?

    [14-Feb-17 9:57:39 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Or do you need to start first

    [14-Feb-17 9:58:29 PM] YT King (SMM): I read books. Recently was a reviewer for a book named "[Insert book name]" its on Amazon you can have a look

    [14-Feb-17 9:58:39 PM] YT King (SMM): Its one of the best seller.

    [14-Feb-17 9:59:08 PM] YT King (SMM): I review a lot of stuff so I get of books and guides to review before its published and I leave reviews.

    [14-Feb-17 9:59:09 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Has to be minimal 100 pages ;/

    [14-Feb-17 9:59:19 PM] YT King (SMM): How many words?

    [14-Feb-17 9:59:27 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Doesn't matter

    [14-Feb-17 9:59:43 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Just needs to be 100 pages

    [14-Feb-17 9:59:55 PM] YT King (SMM): You want me to "read" right?

    [14-Feb-17 10:00:00 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Yep

    [14-Feb-17 10:00:07 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: And do some tasks

    [14-Feb-17 10:00:13 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Got other books?

    [14-Feb-17 10:00:34 PM] YT King (SMM): Then like I asked the book you are talking about is of how many words?

    [14-Feb-17 10:01:06 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: I was talking about your ****** book, which has 54 pages.

    [14-Feb-17 10:01:09 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: <Good reads link to the book>

    [14-Feb-17 10:01:14 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: As stated on GoodReads

    [14-Feb-17 10:02:17 PM] YT King (SMM): Recently was a reviewer for a book

    [14-Feb-17 10:02:53 PM] YT King (SMM): Like I said I review a lot of books, if that's what you problem is then add up all my reviews of a week to 1000 pages?

    [14-Feb-17 10:03:01 PM] YT King (SMM): Your wish

    [14-Feb-17 10:03:17 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: I don't get what you're saying.

    [14-Feb-17 10:03:19 PM] YT King (SMM): <Sent link of book on Amazon that I was referring to which has 249 pages>

    [14-Feb-17 10:03:22 PM] YT King (SMM): 249 pages

    [14-Feb-17 10:03:30 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: You just need to read a book for me which has 100 pages atleast

    [14-Feb-17 10:03:33 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Oh it has 249?

    [14-Feb-17 10:03:38 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Oh sorry then

    [14-Feb-17 10:04:39 PM] YT King (SMM): www.Twan.BlackYou just need to read a book for me which has 100 pages atleastI know you already stated that on your thread, that is why I am interested.

    [14-Feb-17 10:04:40 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Then that's great :p

    [14-Feb-17 10:04:45 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Okay

    [14-Feb-17 10:04:46 PM] YT King (SMM): Yep I know.

    [14-Feb-17 10:04:58 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Should I send the stuff you need to make/answer?

    [14-Feb-17 10:05:39 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: So there are 3 categories and you need to choose one task from each category.

    [14-Feb-17 10:05:52 PM] YT King (SMM): when is the deadline? when do you want it delivered? How much is the offer for work?

    [14-Feb-17 10:06:07 PM] YT King (SMM): and mode of payment?

    [14-Feb-17 10:06:51 PM] YT King (SMM): So reading 100 pages book, choosing 1 task from 3 categories = 3 tasks in total . Is this right?

    [14-Feb-17 10:06:58 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Yes

    [14-Feb-17 10:06:59 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: One min

    [14-Feb-17 10:08:07 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: The deadline is Wednesday at 11:59PM. Which is on GMT+1 time (The Netherlands). I want it in a Word document. Going to pay via Paypal if that is ok.

    [14-Feb-17 10:09:10 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: So these are the categories with tasks:

    [14-Feb-17 10:10:17 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Tasks A:

    - Make a cartoon story with 5 pictures with the 5 main events. Write a small summary at every picture

    - Explain the look of some characters based on stuff you have read in the book

    - Search pictures of people that looks like characters of the book

    [14-Feb-17 10:10:54 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Tasks B:

    - Design a new book cover and write a summary of the book + why you like the book

    - Explain the title of the book, with info from the text. Where does the title refer to? Where did you find this title in the book? What do you think of the title?

    - Go read the book after on reality content: What is like real life stuff and what not? Give arguments

    - What is the theme of this book? What appeals to you in this book? Search some non-fictional information about the topic

    - Make an acrostic of a portion of the book with a minimum of 10 lines

    [14-Feb-17 10:11:36 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Evaluating:

    - Search for a piece of text dat is good as motto for the readed work and explain why you choose that part.

    - Find an interview with the author and tell after reading what you found out about his view

    - Fill 5 of the following statements, where you're guided by the contents of the book. Through this book, I wonder ....... / ...... I believe / I realize .... / I decide ..... / Feel me ... / I hope ...

    [14-Feb-17 10:12:04 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: So one task from each, A, B and C

    [14-Feb-17 10:15:55 PM] YT King (SMM): Its like less than 30 hours

    [14-Feb-17 10:16:05 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: That's right.

    [14-Feb-17 10:16:11 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: I'm ok with one book btw

    [14-Feb-17 10:16:17 PM] YT King (SMM): I have my paypal limited, do you use skrill or payoneer?

    [14-Feb-17 10:16:20 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Someone else is already doing 2

    [14-Feb-17 10:16:29 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: I could deposit some money on Payoneer, np

    [14-Feb-17 10:16:44 PM] YT King (SMM): How many min words do you need per task?

    [14-Feb-17 10:16:53 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: 1 word page

    [14-Feb-17 10:16:58 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Font size 12

    [14-Feb-17 10:17:48 PM] YT King (SMM): So each book has 3 tasks?

    [14-Feb-17 10:17:53 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Yep

    [14-Feb-17 10:18:06 PM] YT King (SMM): and you have 2 books at the moment to assign?

    [14-Feb-17 10:20:22 PM] YT King (SMM): ?

    [14-Feb-17 10:20:27 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Yep

    [14-Feb-17 10:20:47 PM] YT King (SMM): ok I would like to take both then. Is that ok?

    [14-Feb-17 10:20:58 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: sure

    [14-Feb-17 10:21:02 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: oh no wait

    [14-Feb-17 10:21:04 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: I mean

    [14-Feb-17 10:21:10 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Someone else is doing 2 books

    [14-Feb-17 10:22:06 PM] YT King (SMM): I thought you meant someone else is doing 2nd book.

    [14-Feb-17 10:22:55 PM] YT King (SMM): Well ok sure, will take that one.

    [14-Feb-17 10:23:02 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Okay

    [14-Feb-17 10:23:07 PM] YT King (SMM): What's the exact offer?

    [14-Feb-17 10:23:17 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: I'll pay you 15 dollars.

    [14-Feb-17 10:23:47 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: I'll send you 7.50 after you've send me 2/3 of the tasks

    [14-Feb-17 10:23:51 PM] YT King (SMM): um

    [14-Feb-17 10:24:00 PM] YT King (SMM): as in?

    [14-Feb-17 10:24:06 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: I'll pay you the other 7,50 after you've send the complete edirion

    [14-Feb-17 10:24:20 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: So 15 dollars in total

    [14-Feb-17 10:25:28 PM] YT King (SMM): Can't do that, willing to do for 20

    [14-Feb-17 10:26:01 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Well, I just received a new Skype invite who is doing it for 15

    [14-Feb-17 10:26:14 PM] YT King (SMM): and usually I take upfront payment but you can pay half upfront and half when work is done

    [14-Feb-17 10:26:26 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: But you accepted my request before him so I'll talk to you first

    [14-Feb-17 10:26:28 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: 15 dollars.

    [14-Feb-17 10:26:50 PM] YT King (SMM): That will be too little

    [14-Feb-17 10:27:02 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: I'll talk to the other person then

    [14-Feb-17 10:27:04 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Thanks

    [14-Feb-17 10:27:29 PM] YT King (SMM): ok sure. No worries:)

    [14-Feb-17 10:27:40 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: k, 17.50

    [14-Feb-17 10:29:02 PM] YT King (SMM): The work you will get from me is a top notch quality. You can enquire from other 's about it. I worked for many. I write articles on daily basis as well, so trust me. Its a quality work, the best I can assure

    [14-Feb-17 10:29:12 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Lmao

    [14-Feb-17 10:29:15 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Sure thing

    [14-Feb-17 10:29:16 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: 17,50

    [14-Feb-17 10:29:18 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Last offer

    [14-Feb-17 10:31:27 PM] YT King (SMM): You don't have to lmao, its a fact

    [14-Feb-17 10:31:31 PM] YT King (SMM): ok deal.

    [14-Feb-17 10:31:34 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Cool.

    [14-Feb-17 10:31:45 PM] YT King (SMM): Send me the details

    [14-Feb-17 10:31:59 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: www.Twan.BlackTasks A:

    - Make a cartoon story with 5 pictures with the 5 main events. Write a small summary at every picture

    - Explain the look of some characters based on stuff you have read in the book

    - Search pictures of people that looks like characters of the book

    Tasks B:

    - Design a new book cover and write a summary of the book + why you like the book

    - Explain the title of the book, with info from the text. Where does the title refer to? Where did you find this title in the book? What do you think of the title?

    - Go read the book after on reality content: What is like real life stuff and what not? Give arguments

    - What is the theme of this book? What appeals to you in this book? Search some non-fictional information about the topic

    - Make an acrostic of a portion of the book with a minimum of 10 lines

    Evaluating:

    - Search for a piece of text dat is good as motto for the readed work and explain why you choose that part.

    - Find an interview with the author and tell after reading what you found out about his view

    - Fill 5 of the following statements, where you're guided by the contents of the book. Through this book, I wonder ....... / ...... I believe / I realize .... / I decide ..... / Feel me ... / I hope ...

    So one task from each, A, B and C

    [14-Feb-17 10:32:15 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: www.Twan.BlackSo the first page of the word document needs to look something like:

    - Book title

    - Book cover

    - Name of author

    - How much pages

    - Publisher name

    [14-Feb-17 10:32:23 PM] YT King (SMM): where is the book?

    [14-Feb-17 10:32:32 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: You're choosing the book

    [14-Feb-17 10:32:42 PM] YT King (SMM): I can choose any book?

    [14-Feb-17 10:32:51 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: An English book

    [14-Feb-17 10:32:58 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Thriller would be the best

    [14-Feb-17 10:33:00 PM] YT King (SMM): Including the one I read [Book name]?

    [14-Feb-17 10:33:05 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Sure

    [14-Feb-17 10:33:14 PM] YT King (SMM): Would be great.

    [14-Feb-17 10:33:21 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Okay

    [14-Feb-17 10:33:33 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Got any further questions?

    [14-Feb-17 10:34:00 PM] YT King (SMM): So first page + 3 pages (Of 3 respective tasks) on word right?

    [14-Feb-17 10:34:15 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Yep! That's correct

    [14-Feb-17 10:35:53 PM | Removed 16-Feb-17 10:36:28 AM] YT King (SMM): This message has been removed. [Email ID for receiving payment ]

    [14-Feb-17 10:35:58 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: k

    [14-Feb-17 10:36:11 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: I'll deposit some money to my account

    [14-Feb-17 10:36:57 PM] YT King (SMM): Sure, let me know once the initial payment is sent. Will get the work started and handle the fee (if any)

    [14-Feb-17 10:39:40 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Fuck Payoneer

    [14-Feb-17 10:39:44 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Got any other method?

    [14-Feb-17 10:39:54 PM] YT King (SMM): I have skrill

    [14-Feb-17 10:40:02 PM] YT King (SMM): what happened?

    [14-Feb-17 10:40:17 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Not willing to give me all those ID detail etc.

    [14-Feb-17 10:40:49 PM] YT King (SMM): huh

    [14-Feb-17 10:41:31 PM | Edited 15-Feb-17 12:17:44 PM] YT King (SMM): Do you know someone who has skrill or payoneer? you can PP him. He can send me either of them

    [14-Feb-17 10:41:42 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: I've got Skrill now.

    [14-Feb-17 10:42:15 PM] YT King (SMM): oh great

    [14-Feb-17 10:42:19 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: I'll pay in Euros btw

    [14-Feb-17 10:42:40 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: 16,56

    [14-Feb-17 10:44:31 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: What's your Skrill?

    [14-Feb-17 10:45:35 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Gotta eat now

    [14-Feb-17 10:45:35 PM | Removed 16-Feb-17 10:36:22 AM] YT King (SMM): This message has been removed.[Skrill ID]

    [14-Feb-17 10:46:17 PM] YT King (SMM): what's your email to which you want this order delivered to?

    [14-Feb-17 10:46:32 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: [His E-Mail ID]

    [14-Feb-17 10:46:43 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Money send.

    [14-Feb-17 10:46:45 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Gotta eat now

    [14-Feb-17 10:46:53 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Will be back in 30 min

    [14-Feb-17 10:47:01 PM] YT King (SMM): I will check in a min and conform and ok you can go

    [14-Feb-17 10:50:40 PM] YT King (SMM): Got 8.30euros, your work has started now.

    [14-Feb-17 11:05:54 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Great

    [14-Feb-17 11:06:06 PM] YT King (SMM): :)

    [14-Feb-17 11:06:16 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: How far are you?

    [14-Feb-17 11:09:53 PM] YT King (SMM): with the work?

    [14-Feb-17 11:10:20 PM] YT King (SMM): Its on

    [14-Feb-17 11:10:25 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Yh

    [14-Feb-17 11:11:47 PM] YT King (SMM): Well I will take off then. Its 11:17 PM here. Will mail your work before your declared time ok?

    [14-Feb-17 11:14:32 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Great

    [14-Feb-17 11:14:33 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Thanks

    [14-Feb-17 11:14:43 PM] YT King (SMM): Anytime:)

    [14-Feb-17 11:14:46 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Please as soon as possible bc I also need to translate it to Dutch before that time

    [14-Feb-17 11:14:53 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Sleep well :)

    [14-Feb-17 11:22:21 PM] YT King (SMM): ohhhhhhhh

    [14-Feb-17 11:22:27 PM] YT King (SMM): um well ok

    [15-Feb-17 12:52:29 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Did you start yet?

    [15-Feb-17 3:35:58 PM] YT King (SMM): Yush. I did

    [15-Feb-17 4:18:21 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Okay

    [15-Feb-17 4:18:31 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Can you finish it in 6 hours?

    [15-Feb-17 7:29:05 PM] YT King (SMM): Yea I will be sending in sometime

    [15-Feb-17 7:39:46 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: What questions are you doing?

    [15-Feb-17 7:39:49 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Or what taskjs

    [15-Feb-17 7:42:56 PM] YT King (SMM): www.Twan.BlackExplain the look of some characters based on stuff you have read in the book[Tuesday, February 14, 2017 10:32 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs:


    <<< www.Twan.Black- Explain the title of the book, with info from the text. Where does the title refer to? Where did you find this title in the book? What do you think of the title?[Tuesday, February 14, 2017 10:32 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs:


    <<< www.Twan.Black- Fill 5 of the following statements, where you're guided by the contents of the book. Through this book, I wonder ....... / ...... I believe / I realize .... / I decide ..... / Feel me ... / I hope ...

    [15-Feb-17 7:43:08 PM] YT King (SMM): 2 tasks already done, almost done with 3rd

    [15-Feb-17 7:43:18 PM] YT King (SMM): first page is all set too.

    [15-Feb-17 7:43:38 PM] YT King (SMM): Just few more mins and will send you all

    [15-Feb-17 7:43:41 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: SHit

    [15-Feb-17 7:43:54 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Someone else did the first one already ;?

    [15-Feb-17 7:43:56 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: ;/

    [15-Feb-17 7:44:35 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: I tought I said what the other dude would do :/

    [15-Feb-17 7:44:58 PM] YT King (SMM): You did not tell me before that we all have to do different tasks, you said any task out of this 3 categories so total of 3 tasks.

    [15-Feb-17 7:45:10 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Yeah they can't be the same

    [15-Feb-17 7:45:15 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: The other 2 you said are ok

    [15-Feb-17 7:45:45 PM] YT King (SMM): what's the point of telling me now? :/

    [15-Feb-17 7:45:54 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: I tought I told you

    [15-Feb-17 7:46:07 PM] YT King (SMM): No, like I said

    [15-Feb-17 7:46:13 PM] YT King (SMM): You did not tell me before that we all have to do different tasks, you said any task out of this 3 categories so total of 3 tasks.

    [15-Feb-17 7:46:17 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Well, okay, sorry

    [15-Feb-17 7:46:24 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: So what now

    [15-Feb-17 7:46:28 PM] YT King (SMM): Anyway what now? lets talk about he solution

    [15-Feb-17 7:46:35 PM] YT King (SMM): lol yea I was asking the same.

    [15-Feb-17 7:46:39 PM] YT King (SMM): *The

    [15-Feb-17 7:46:40 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: You probably want more money now

    [15-Feb-17 7:46:54 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: I'm a 17 year old student so yh..

    [15-Feb-17 7:48:05 PM] YT King (SMM): The first thing I am thinking is that my time went into vein. since its a scrape now but lol nice ide

    [15-Feb-17 7:48:07 PM] YT King (SMM): *idea

    [15-Feb-17 7:49:43 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Hm?

    [15-Feb-17 7:50:49 PM] YT King (SMM): You can make that to deal of 1$ extra. Don't worry, and anyway I will do this - Search pictures of people that looks like characters of the book

    [15-Feb-17 7:51:00 PM] YT King (SMM): Lets just hurry, your deadline is approaching

    [15-Feb-17 7:51:01 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Okay deal.

    [15-Feb-17 7:51:12 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Sorry tho

    [15-Feb-17 7:51:19 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: For not telling

    [15-Feb-17 7:51:32 PM] YT King (SMM): Its ok no worries:) Getting back to work, will text you as soon as done

    [15-Feb-17 7:51:49 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Great, thanks :)

    [15-Feb-17 9:01:53 PM] YT King (SMM): Sent you the work. check your mail

    [15-Feb-17 9:03:10 PM] YT King (SMM): You can send the remaining final payment of 9.26euro to [ID]

    [15-Feb-17 10:51:06 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Hi

    [15-Feb-17 10:51:18 PM] YT King (SMM): Yea?

    [15-Feb-17 10:51:22 PM] YT King (SMM): Everything ok?

    [15-Feb-17 10:51:55 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: You didn't really get one of the questions..

    [15-Feb-17 10:51:57 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: 'Search pictures of people that looks like characters of the book'

    [15-Feb-17 10:52:03 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Characters of the book

    [15-Feb-17 10:52:06 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Not the author

    [15-Feb-17 10:53:23 PM] YT King (SMM): The author is the character in the book named by his original name "[Insert name]" you can change that heading from author's image to "character image"

    [15-Feb-17 10:53:39 PM] YT King (SMM): He is the lead character

    [15-Feb-17 10:54:24 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Ahhh eright

    [15-Feb-17 10:54:40 PM] YT King (SMM): Yea:)

    [15-Feb-17 10:54:42 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: I'll finish translating the stuff and after that I'll send you the remaining money

    [15-Feb-17 10:54:51 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Which will be in like 2 hours

    [15-Feb-17 10:55:30 PM] YT King (SMM): Sure thing, you can send after 2 hours. That's why didn't disturb you. I assumed you were busy translating.

    [15-Feb-17 10:55:56 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: I was busy translating the other 2 books haha

    [15-Feb-17 10:56:01 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Done with them now

    [15-Feb-17 10:56:06 PM] YT King (SMM): cool

    [15-Feb-17 10:56:17 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Brb

    [16-Feb-17 9:14:07 PM] YT King (SMM): You must be free now

    [12:21:24 AM] YT King (SMM): I will wait till just tonight for the funds. Tomorrow morning I will have to let know the mods about the situation. Just letting you know before hand.

    [12:35:15 AM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: I paid you 8 euros.

    [12:35:28 AM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Which is already too much for the work you did lol

    [12:35:31 AM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: It's Shit.

    [12:35:39 AM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Even other people laughed at your work

    [12:35:57 AM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: And you're also writing in the I perspective

    [12:36:07 AM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Which is always wrong in this kinda stuff lol

    [12:36:16 AM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: I don't blame you tho, you're indian

    [12:36:36 AM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: But yh someone from UK helped me.

    [12:36:43 AM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: You were also too late

    [12:36:55 AM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: As I already said, it had to be quick

    [12:37:09 AM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: So nah I'm not giving you any more money, be happy with your 8 euros

    [12:37:27 AM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: You can make a shitlist, the mods will proof you wrong lmao

    [12:37:39 AM] YT King (SMM): www.Twan.BlackWhich is already too much for the work you did lolWe had a deal.

    [12:37:55 AM] YT King (SMM): www.Twan.BlackAnd you're also writing in the I perspective-You didn't mention to write it in 2nd or 3rd person's perspective

    [12:38:19 AM] YT King (SMM): www.Twan.BlackI don't blame you tho, you're indian-Don't even start with that.

    [12:38:46 AM] YT King (SMM): www.Twan.BlackYou were also too late-I delivered you 6 hours before the Wednesday 11:59PM GMT

    [12:40:04 AM] YT King (SMM): www.Twan.BlackEven other people laughed at your work-Sure, basically you translated the work and submitted it for whatever assignment you were into. And today you just aren't satisfied. You didn't have any objection yesterday but now you see why writer take payment upfront? Because of people like you.

    [12:40:29 AM] YT King (SMM): www.Twan.BlackYou can make a shitlist, the mods will proof you wrong lmaoSure.

    [12:41:31 AM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: You delivered SHIT work.

    [12:41:44 AM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Which clearly didn't meet the standards

    [12:42:00 AM] YT King (SMM): Why didn't you object that yesterday? You simply translated and submitted MY work

    [12:42:05 AM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: YT King (SMM) - Vandaag 20:08

    > [12:36:17 AM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: I don't blame you tho, you're indian


    <<< Don't even start with that.

    And this isn't supposed to be offensive dude.

    [12:42:32 AM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: The stuff you made isn't worth the other 8 euros

    [12:42:35 AM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Simple as that.

    [12:43:29 AM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: YT King (SMM) - Vandaag 20:12

    > Why didn't you object that yesterday? You simply translated and submitted MY work

    Dude

    [12:43:42 AM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: I didn't even translate your Shit yet

    [12:44:04 AM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Because I got the third book from the men who also gave me the first two

    [12:44:15 AM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: And I also didn't submit it to me teacher yet

    [12:44:30 AM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: And I Will certainly not submit your stuff lmao

    [12:44:46 AM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: I'll send you the work of the UK dude tomorrow if you want

    [12:44:52 AM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Compare it to your Shit.

    [12:45:53 AM] YT King (SMM): [15-Feb-17 10:55:56 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: I was busy translating the other 2 books haha

    [15-Feb-17 10:56:01 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Done with them now

    [15-Feb-17 10:56:06 PM] YT King (SMM): cool

    [15-Feb-17 10:56:17 PM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Brb

    [12:46:49 AM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Done with them now

    [12:47:00 AM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Yh the 2 books of him dumbass

    [12:47:13 AM] YT King (SMM): You translated and submitted my work when you said BRB

    [12:47:15 AM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: But after I send him YOUR third book, he laughed at you

    [12:47:22 AM] YT King (SMM): Mind your language .

    [12:47:26 AM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: And said he can do much better

    [12:47:31 AM] YT King (SMM): So you sent him

    [12:47:35 AM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Yh

    [12:47:37 AM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: I did

    [12:47:44 AM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: I have send it to him

    [12:47:58 AM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: So what?

    [12:49:03 AM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Dude.

    [12:49:15 AM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: This work is just not suited for you

    [12:49:30 AM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Go work at a Microsoft scam call Centre or something lmao

    [12:49:44 AM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Like, do you srsly think I would submit your work to my teacher?

    [12:49:49 AM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: I'm 17 years old

    [12:50:05 AM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: And the book was about surviving the fucking 20s

    [12:50:07 AM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: LMAO

    [12:54:42 AM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Where are you now?

    [12:55:32 AM] YT King (SMM): Writing to mod. You may be angry or stressed but you can't seem to keep a hold of your tongue.

    [12:56:05 AM] YT King (SMM): *Angry and stressed with your life. not referring towards me as that doesn't imply here

    [12:56:53 AM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: I'm not angry and stressed at al

    [12:56:59 AM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: I just find it funny

    [12:57:08 AM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: That you think I'm lying

    [12:57:14 AM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: And that your work is great

    [12:57:28 AM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: And you're making a issue about fucking 8 euro LMAO

    [12:59:33 AM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Make sure so send me the shitlist link

    [12:59:35 AM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: Can't wait!

    [12:59:46 AM | Removed 12:59:49 AM] www.Twan.Black / TNL Designs: This message has been removed. [HE ABUSED IN HINDI and if anyone has a way to see what’s been deleted it will be all clear]

    Yh well you can probably eat a whole month with that 8 euro in India xd
    So if I don't win the Shit list I'll pay you
    But otherwise, nah
    Like I don't even use my bhw account much xd
    100 posts since 2014
    So I don't give one single fuck
    This message has been removed.[ he sent a screen shot of a convo but I was quick enough to grab a screenshot of that before he deleted.
     

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    Shitlist Request Approved

    @Twanofzo has been notified he has 48 hours to respond to this post.

    PS. Reminder to all who have current issues, keep it PROFESSIONAL. No name calling or other insults.

    Reminder to everyone else:

    Shit list rule #4:

    If you are not directly related to the situation, or are not offering information directly related to the situation: do not post in the thread.
     
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    Make sure to attach the great work you made for me too bornthisway.

    I'll reply this stuff in 48 hours.
     
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    I understand why you are upset and I am sorry for being a dick to you on Skype. The homework was due on the next day, and I was pretty stressed because it wasn’t finished and I only had 1 hour left. Then you turned in this piece of work which was awful and was not up to my standards, and I didn’t want to pay you for it. Also, your English is clearly not good enough to write a book report. Some of your sentences were impossible to understand… ‘spent couple more years switching 10-12 jobs in span of 2-3 years was a disaster but he didn’t give up. He indeed felt low but he did not give up. Finally he did it. Success kissed him.’ I am not a native English speaker so I cannot understand stupid sentences like this… My other writer wrote in a clear and easy to understand way and his English was perfect compared to yours. You are lucky to get half of the money for a job that, in my eyes, is useless. I could not use your piece because of the poor quality, therefore I did not pay the full amount.

    Attached: The delivered work made by @bornthisway http://www.twan.black/bhw.docx
     
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    I read through the document and will look it over closer tomorrow but part of the above conversation posted is an example of someone not giving good direction to the one he hired and that may come into play as well.
     
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    I will just make it clear once more : -
    1) You did not give clear instructions that I have to choose different task YET I did ANOTHER task for 1 extra $.
    So it proves that I was never open to any revisions or feedback. Although I did not offer any revisions nor you stated but yes. Like I said I was open to revisions as my actions prove it clear.
    2) You did NOT mention you want simple English. The reason it doesn't meet your "Standards" is because your standard is pretty low itself as you claimed - "I am not a native English speaker " YET you had the point 1 open but you didn't take that up clearly
    3) As skype conversations state - @Twanofzo you USED my work and SAID you will pay me in 2 hours. This is 100% real as you stated it yourself.
    4) I DELIVERED my work. I am not sure you used it or you didn't. But if you did not like it then @BassTrackerBoats why did not he let me know right away? and why did he say he is busy translating so will pay me once its done?
    24 hours passed away but twan did not get the time to inform?
    5) Twan made a false claim that I did not deliver him the work on time. The skype conversation as well email sent to him can indicate you that I provided within time and way before it. Basically he doesn't way to pay so he is coming up with whatever "excuse" he can.
    6) He made another false statement that he did not use my work. He distributed my work to his another writer ( skype conversations prove ) for what?
    If he did not like my work he could just inform me STRAIGHT AWAY and then ask his writer to write another piece for him ,instead of having fun with my piece BUT twan said he is running out of time so he will pay me later, right? Then how come he had so much time left to chit-chat with his writer?

    If I have to assume then I would say he was pathetic in submitting his homework. Next day he got to know his grades for the same and as those were just not satisfactory to him. He just doesn't feel like paying. That's a blame game but none of my business.

    Strong point that you did read my work within time frame: (On skype conversation)
    I delivered you the work and informed you to pay the rest. You don't reply me.
    Later you come up with a doubt that the task is to find similar people that looks like character in the book instead of the author. AGAIN you didn't say anything about the payment which you clearly wanted to get away with. YET I clear off the doubt that the author is the character in the book itself.
    It shows that you went through my work but you choose not to tell me at that instant itself because you did translate my work also if not then you never informed me about it, instead shared it with someone unrelated to the case. That's pretty childish and that shows that you never had the intention to pay. We all know how frauds come out with this and that ,just to get away but that's not going to happen.

    I don't deal with people like you but as I said before, the reason I said ok for half payment if because you had an A/C on BHW since 2014 and thought you didn't want to lose it. You last stated "I don't care about my account" proves that wrong.

    Edit:
    You also challenged me on skype that if I win this sh*tlist you will pay me if not then nope. It is not professional on many levels. I love my respect more but your manners clearly define where you come from. Congrats on that!
    Abusing is not professional.
    Taunting, Calling names and being racist with someone's motherland is not being professional.
    True, You are a 17 year old. That's the only thing you proved here. Anything else?
     
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    1. I will admit my instructions were not as clear as they could have been. However, I still gave you half the money for work that I could not use.
    2. I did not need simple English. I needed English that I could read. Your English is not good enough for me to be able to understand. Remember, because I am not a native speaker, it means that I can only understand correct English. I find it hard to find meaning in incorrect English.
    3. I did not use your work. I can provide the docs from the other guy who ended up doing your work in a very short amount of time. I was translating his work, not yours, as I found it very hard to translate because it didn’t make a lot of sense.
    4. I know you delivered your work. But it was not possible to use it as it was impossible to translate, because I couldn’t understand your haphazard sentences.
    5. I never made the false claim that you did not deliver on time. You delivered on time. When I said ‘it wasn’t finished’ I mean that I had not finished translating it.
    6. I did not use your work. I will edit this post and provide all 3 documents from the other writer.
    7. I did not ‘have fun’ with your work, I was trying to ask him if he could understand it. My writer and I did not ‘chit-chat’ for a long time, just 10 minutes while I was asking him about your work. What he said about your work is none of my business.
    8. Dude. I never submitted your homework. Once again, I will show you the 3 docs which I did submit.
    9. Also, the task was to find people who looked similar to characters in the book. This is probably a sign of your poor English. The author is not a character. Also, the use of the word character means that I was looking for a fiction book. Non-fiction books do not have characters.
    10. I did not share it with someone who was unrelated to the case. He was the guy who saved me when your work was inadequate.
    11. Look, I am sorry for being mean to you on skype. But suck it up, honestly. Sometimes, people say mean words. Stop crying over it.

    EDIT: Uploaded the books of the other helper on my website: (Already translated, if the mod wants to read the English non-translated books he can PM me or tell that here.)
    Book 1: http://www.twan.black/bhw/boek1.docx
    Book 2: http://www.twan.black/bhw/boek2.docx
    Book 3: http://www.twan.black/bhw/boek3.docx

    CHANGED: I changed the url to BornThisWay his book to: http://www.twan.black/bhw/hisbook.docx
     
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    "other guy who ended up doing your work in a very short amount of time. I was translating his work, not yours" - You could have asked for the revision. Instead you went to him and like I said before you acknowledged my work. It isn't that you just went in to submit and realized about what I wrote.

    "I never made the false claim that you did not deliver on time. "- You did. Have a look at skype convo. No wonder you don't remember

    "I did not ‘have fun’ with your work, I was trying to ask him if he could understand it. My writer and I did not ‘chit-chat’ for a long time, just 10 minutes" you could have asked me for revision or had an conversation if me BUT you said 'I WILL SEND YOU PAYMENT AS SOON AS I AM DONE WITH TRANSLATING" You can't Fcuk up with that ok?!
    You can be a complete mess with your excuses but it very very clear that you received and acknowledged and AGREED to pay me.

    " the task was to find people who looked similar to characters in the book. This is probably a sign of your poor English. The author is not a character. Also, the use of the word character means that I was looking for a fiction book. Non-fiction books do not have characters." :
    INVALID POINT, I already showed you the book that I was going to write about, YOU acknowledged it with the same. Like I said its the author's story so he is a character in it. I cannot introduce new character's that are NOT there in the book.

    " Look, I am sorry for being mean to you on skype. But suck it up, honestly. Sometimes, people say mean words. Stop crying over it." : - Apology not accepted. oh by the way I wasn't rude or mean to you so basically you shouldn't try to calm yourself by saying "people say mean words" because that is not true. It's all about where you come from.

    Final reply over here:
    @BassTrackerBoats The deal was to do 3 tasks, half payment was received.
    Delivered the work on time >> Client stops responding from that time itself >> Client comes up with a doubt while going through my work whihc shows that he acknowledges my work>> I clear it and ask with the payment >> he SAYS he will pay in 2 hours.
    After 24 hours>> I text him to remind >> He turns up with excuses which he did not have while receiving, acknowledging or agreeing to pay.

    If he had any trouble that he claims he has then he could have simply told me then and there itself or else after 2 hours when he finished submitting his work.

    I have provided and still provide articles to people here. One of them is Jr.Vip too you can ask him if you need any evidence of me giving timely support, doubts clearing, TAT Etc. I never had anyone who wanted revisions yet I was open to that if this client had asked for it but instead of all the options available he is doing the following drama.

    You can give out the verdict at any point now. If you need any evidence I am open to submit them.
     
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    I've read the document that @bornthisway submitted a few different times and I don't think it is horrible by any means.

    It is not University quality but you did not ask for University quality.

    A few things I want to interject here before moving forward.

    The instructions were not even ambiguous... they wished they could be. I read the initial thread request as well as chat that @bornthisway posted and it was work trying to figure out what you actually wanted. Next time you hire someone you would be well served by being extremely clear. I almost always write out in a step by step manner when I outsource something so that there are no misunderstandings.

    As to the SL issue itself, @Twanofzo .

    You complained about the First person perspective "And you're also writing in the I perspective" yet you did not state what perspective you wanted it in.

    You complained about standards "Which clearly didn't meet the standards" but you really didn't lay out any standards.

    You allowed his competitor to be an outside influence "But after I send him YOUR third book, he laughed at you" but @bornthisway did not have a contract with him. It was with you.

    You complained about the book itself "And the book was about surviving the fucking 20s" but you approved it before hand earlier.

    I do not think the product he produced was bad at all... it was not perfect but it was generated by a human and humans are not perfect. It was certainly not riddled with errors either.

    @Twanofzo, you owe @bornthisway the balance of the money due.
     
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    Thanx for sorting this out bass. I will let you know when he pays me. So far no replies but lets see.
     
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    Okay, I will pay. I admit I should have given clearer instructions at the start. I will PayPal @bornthisway 8 euros within 48 hours.
     
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    Skrill is Shit. And his paypal is limited or something.
     
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    @bornthisway has been paid. Even gave him 25 cents extra (lol)
    A total of 16,84EUR has been paid to him.

    [​IMG]
     
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    @bornthisway - please confirm.
     
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    Can I remove that stupid Bitly link now btw?
     
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    It is gone and when @bornthisway confirms the payment I'll hide this thread from public view.
     
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  18. bornthisway

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    Don't act smart as if you are showing courtesy. You did not send any EXTRA. Infact you sent LESS then the deal.
    First deal was 17.50$ = 16.56Euros (That days rate as conformed by twan himself)
    Then there was a deal of 1$ Extra because you switched tasks.
    Total of 18.50$

    You paid 8.30Euros before work.
    Balance @Twanofzo had to pay is 9.26 euros as stated on skype as well as on this thread.

    0.72 Euros is the remaining!

    @BassTrackerBoats what do you think?
    And I got 8.54 euros as shown in screenshot.
     
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    @Twanofzo - why did you not pay the whole balance?
     
  20. Twanofzo

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    This is all what I had deposited on my account back then when the first deal was made. I´m not going to deposit any more again. Got enough funds on PayPal but I´m not gonna deposit any more money on Skrill when I won't use it ever again.
     
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