Services Like Jarvee Coming To An End?...Due to HypeAuditor?

Ok hear me out before anyone thinks I'm referring to the IG updates. Actually, the program still works and I haven't had any issues with blocks or anything. I've been fortunate from that end. But here's where the problem comes in, many Instagram influencers use programs like Jarvee to grow their following; and as a result get sponsorship from brands, posts, etc... This is their source of Instagram income.

Here's where the problem comes in... Companies use third party auditors to detect if IG influencers use follow/unfollow programs and have what they consider "unnatural growth", like mass follow/unfollow patterns, not just bot followers, in order to determine if they want to work with you.
Hype auditor is one of those third party sites that flag many high volume accounts which show "mass follow/unfollow patterns". Essentially if day-to-day your Following count fluctuates by 20-30 followings when the random audit takes place it lowers your score.

I think this is going to huge issue for the thousands or more people using programs like jarvee. About 5 months ago I got hit with the "unnatural growth" label and haven't been able to get rid of it. You can see the example in the images attached.

So my question is, have you come across this issue yourself? Did you find a solution for it? Personally you can see the graph closer to January where graph only fluctuated by 20 or so following difference each day and my authenticity score still remained low.

I was emailing Jarvee support and they don't seem to have any real solution to beat audits like these. Their concern is to not let both tools (follow and unfollow) run simultaneously so other flags don't get raised. So basically I foresee less and less influencers using such programs since revenue is now lost.

What are your thoughts?

people don't care about that. As long they brand get awareness, they can dealing with that.

they are sooo many ways to growing your account without follow-unfollow. mother-slave, one of them... that is one of solution to kick the ass service like hype Auditor...

so stop worrying. we always have solution..

zedaenk said:

people don't care about that. As long they brand get awareness, they can dealing with that.

they are sooo many ways to growing your account without follow-unfollow. mother-slave, one of them... that is one of solution to kick the ass service like hype Auditor...

so stop worrying. we always have solution..

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Lol but I find that mother-slave growth is much slower, no? I've become comfortable with 3K+ growth per month.

yeah as Zedaenk said .. also people who use instagram for cpa offers promotions and shoutouts selling wont care about this .. it maybe an issue and im not saying it is not .. but it's not a big one .

What is mother-slave growth?

precrime3 said:

What is mother-slave growth?

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That's what I originally thought, had to do some digging. I think majority of Jarvee users and users of similar programs aren't that savvy. If accounts take a hit with "mass following" and "inauthentic audience" there will be major loss in customers, there's very few people who use stuff like mother-slave. I'd say a small percentage compared to the bulk of customers performing ordinary growth.

Mother-slave is when you have a primary account which uses no bot activities. Then you have hundreds of bot accounts running on programs like jarvee with profile saying "follow main account ____" and also send mass dm's telling users to follow your main account.

infoJunkie said:

That's what I originally thought, had to do some digging. I think majority of Jarvee users and users of similar programs aren't that savvy. If accounts take a hit with "mass following" and "inauthentic audience" there will be major loss in customers, there's very few people who use stuff like mother-slave. I'd say a small percentage compared to the bulk of customers performing ordinary growth.

Mother-slave is when you have a primary account which uses no bot activities. Then you have hundreds of bot accounts running on programs like jarvee with profile saying "follow main account ____" and also send mass dm's telling users to follow your main account.

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Oh snap... I might have to do that lmao

Personally, and as a brand, the only thing I care about is if you grow your following via smm panels. I don't mind follow / unfollow at all. Quite the contrary actually. If you're growing via follow / unfollow, that means you're likely targeting people that i want to target, thus, making me even more interested. The only accounts I avoid like the plague are smm growth accounts.

erui22 said:

Personally, and as a brand, the only thing I care about is if you grow your following via smm panels. I don't mind follow / unfollow at all. Quite the contrary actually. If you're growing via follow / unfollow, that means you're likely targeting people that i want to target, thus, making me even more interested. The only accounts I avoid like the plague are smm growth accounts.

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Interesting. And it's true, follow/unfollow actually targets real users in a category. Ideally other brands feel the same way as you do

precrime3 said:

Oh snap... I might have to do that lmao

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Lol yeah. I'm deterred at the moment just because of the cost of proxies for running that many accounts and also maintaining those bot accounts

infoJunkie said:

Here's where the problem comes in... Companies use third party auditors to detect if IG influencers use follow/unfollow programs and have what they consider "unnatural growth", like mass follow/unfollow patterns, not just bot followers, in order to determine if they want to work with you.
Hype auditor is one of those third party sites that flag many high volume accounts which show "mass follow/unfollow patterns". Essentially if day-to-day your Following count fluctuates by 20-30 followings when the random audit takes place it lowers your score.

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Companies and sponsors only really care about your engagement. If you grew your account using follow/unfollow, but you have a shit load of highly engaged followers, you won't have anything to worry about with an auditor.

But if you have a lot of followers and low engagement, it won't really matter what the report shows because they will assume you have fake followers or inactive ones if your engagement is too low.

A variation of 20-30 per day doesn't matter much, but if you are following 2000+ people and the report shows a big variation, you also won't have anything to worry about because you won't be getting any sponsors lol.

zedaenk said:

people don't care about that. As long they brand get awareness, they can dealing with that.

they are sooo many ways to growing your account without follow-unfollow. mother-slave, one of them... that is one of solution to kick the ass service like hype Auditor...

so stop worrying. we always have solution..

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What is the rest of the ways to grow an Instagram account. I only know the follow /unfollow and the mother /slave. Thank you

IF anyone bothers to check it. The amount of people I see blindly jumping into influencer marketing thinking its just going to work is wild. Many people think its simple and just go for it.

John242 said:

A variation of 20-30 per day doesn't matter much, but if you are following 2000+ people and the report shows a big variation, you also won't have anything to worry about because you won't be getting any sponsors lol.

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Actually 20-30 variation does create flags in auditors. Remember the first two snapshots in my attachment two days ago? So I've added current ones as of today. My following appearance fluctuated by 9...nine lol. and my score went from 69 down to 66. And it will continue to go down if the graph goes up and down every day. I've now stopped my follow/unfollow tool and am doing just likes.

Igmaniac said:

What is the rest of the ways to grow an Instagram account. I only know the follow /unfollow and the mother /slave. Thank you

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I'm curious to know the other methods as well. Mother/slave sounds expensive with having to run all the proxies

Is this an attempt to advertise Hypeauditor?

The problems that you describe are laughable. Real babe accounts grow by 1000s every day. No Jarvee or anything needed. They would all be flagged?
What about Ronaldo et al.?
No, if that's the way Hypeauditor does work, it wouldn't be worth a dime.

PS I've tested one of these analytics wonders on a totally artificial account and got all green. Simply because I bought the right number of likes, comments and saves in relation to followers.

Start Earning said:

Is this an attempt to advertise Hypeauditor?

The problems that you describe are laughable. Real babe accounts grow by 1000s every day. No Jarvee or anything needed. They would all be flagged?
What about Ronaldo et al.?
No, if that's the way Hypeauditor does work, it wouldn't be worth a dime.

PS I've tested one of these analytics wonders on a totally artificial account and got all green. Simply because I bought the right number of likes, comments and saves in relation to followers.

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Yes i think Hypeauditor is pretty unpolished at the moment.

Start Earning said:

Is this an attempt to advertise Hypeauditor?

The problems that you describe are laughable. Real babe accounts grow by 1000s every day. No Jarvee or anything needed. They would all be flagged?
What about Ronaldo et al.?
No, if that's the way Hypeauditor does work, it wouldn't be worth a dime.

PS I've tested one of these analytics wonders on a totally artificial account and got all green. Simply because I bought the right number of likes, comments and saves in relation to followers.

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What's a babe account?
The followers count isn't really counted as much as the "following". If following goes up and down everyday i guess it shows follow/unfollow patterns.

Also definitely not advertising hypeauditor. I'm an ocd influencer who doesn't want any trace of unconventional growth lol