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Serpwoo/Semrush - [Keyword Competition Strength] question and concern

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO Tools' started by Mr Cracker, Feb 16, 2016.

  1. Mr Cracker

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    Hi Guys,

    I've been looking for a service/tool that will help me to break down keywords, I understand that if done manually you can archive this. However, that takes time and as we all know time is money so I need to cut out that time and find a solution. Generally speaking I'll opt for the following metrics:
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    trust flow min
    citation flow min
    domain authority min
    page authority min
    links
    onpage-SEO
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    And I'll manually check the top ten page results backlinks as well, but I want a tool/service that does this for me. I understand that:

    1. https://www.serpwoo.com/keyword-research/
    2. https://www.semrush.com/prices/

    Pretty much offer this already but from what I saw they give you a [Keyword Competition Strength] prediction, do they also show you the CF/TF/DA/PA/Onpage-SEO and links however. It would be nice to be able to compare this with what they suggest on their own built in [Keyword Competition Strength] etc...

    To anyone actually using either of them are you able to rely literally just on what they tell you, without having to manually complete all the boring mentioned tasks.

    Thanks
     
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  2. Mr Cracker

    Mr Cracker Regular Member

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    Would be great if someone can let me know... :)
     
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    None of the two tools deals with 3rd party metrics. Each one is great in its kind of course.
     
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  4. Mr Cracker

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    Can you please elaborate on that... I can easily do this manually without such tools, the whole point is that I need what I mentioned above automated.

    What makes them great... I mean if they can not automate the needed metrics and dig deep into stuff like that.
     
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    Can anyone else help...
     
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    Hey im pretty sure my new tool does what you are asking. You can see the link in my signature. Just waiting for the BST to be approved. I may be misunderstanding though so if so just ignore :)
     
  7. Mr Cracker

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    Can I ask what makes yours different to other tools, example, I used SECockPit which promised all the bells and whistles.
    In reality it told me one thing on the day, then the next day something completely different.
     
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    Holy shit. Your tool looks really nice! Gonna sign up for the trial :)
     
  9. Mr Cracker

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    They all LOOK nice, but I'll wait until he responds what makes his better. Did you just plug your friend btw lol!
     
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    Hey, I haven't used SECockpit so I can't comment on that. A few things we focused on were bulk competition analysis. You can check the competition of tons of keywords in seconds. For example 100 keywords usually takes about 15 seconds and will give you top 10 SERP analysis with stats for each URL including da, pa, links ect... and a single digit difficulty score judged by our algorithm which we believe is much more accurate than any other tool. For example if you search ecommerce words with Long Tail Pro platinum the majority will show very low competition because it barely counts the domain authority into the equation. Its so heavily focused on page authority and specific page links. We have a pretty intricate algorithm that weights PA, DA depending on other competition factors which we feel is more accurate. Also the layout allows you to quickly flip through all the data very quickly rather then opening new tabs.

    Also our deep analysis function will give you TF, CF, Age, Alexa, social stats ect.. which seemed to be what you were looking for thats why I mentioned it. Along with white label exporting capabilities of all the data. Theres a bunch more but I won't hijack the thread. Just figured i'd give you a heads up since it seemed along the lines of what you mentioned. Once again though I could be wrong.

     
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    Did I just plug my friend? I don't know who that guy is and I just saw his tool for the first time so no, I don't think so. I just noticed that his tool has everything I need when I do my keyword research.

    You can use long tail pro, but they don't include Majestic metrics which sucks, I also use Majestic a lot. But Long tail does have that platinum feature where they calculate the keyword difficulty. That could be helpful for you.

    Also http://www.keywordrevealer.com/

    They have lots of metrics. But again, not TF and CF. They do include social signals and some on page SEO like H1 titles.

    Here is my thread, maybe you will find something for you.

    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo/821150-how-i-do-my-keyword-research.html
     
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  12. Mr Cracker

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    Thanks for the detailed response and if it does what it says no the tin then I guess it might be worth trying out. will you be offering trial versions however.
     
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    Hey man excuse my sense of humour I guess it was a silly thing to say. Thanks for the help as well buddy, I read your guide and it's really good. So I'm thinking then no matter what tools I use I should always cross reference the results manually or with other 3rd party tools too.

    Based on the LTP it sounds like even that is not 95% going to be giving me accurate enough stats either then, btw, I noticed in your guide when checking the results on Google you add them without any quotations, I would normally check like this: "keyword" and then check the results, and then I'll check how many pages the keyword has too. However I assume my way is wrong then...

    Thanks
     
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    Alright man, I'm glad I can help out. And yes, you should kinda check multiple times to get everything right, yeah.
     
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    Thanks bro and can I ask you something... I have money to invest into needed tools but I don't want to over do it. Thing is time is money as you know so the better I can cut some corners the more time I save, right. I read over your posts and can see that you will find a keyword and then test it using different software's, although most will not show the real juicy Majestic metrics.

    So what I would like to know is if I invest into the LongTailPro Pro per month, then compare the overall suggestions on the TrafficTravis, that will give me a good indication as to toughness, then I should manually check the TF/CF/DA/PA on sites such as:

    - https://moz.com/researchtools/ose/ and look at the DA and PA
    - https://majestic.com and check the: amount of links, TF, CF

    Or, do you think investing into a tool such as the one the user shared above would tell me accurate stats regarding them. I have started to write a keyword research plan and want to make it spot on before I start trying to rank keywords. IMHO, the keyword research/analyzing is the most important process for sure, right. Thing is I have waste a lot of time in the past by just jumping on things and then realizing I fucked up months down the road.
     
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    You can use tools like Long tail pro to check PA and DA and you don't need to have subscription. You can buy that tool for $70 or something like that. Also, keyword reveler as I mentioned before can check PA and DA and on-page SEO and social so that's good. You can make a subscription there. I have Majestic subscription and it's great. You can also get 30 day trial on Moz and you can have one every month if you register with new email so there is that :)

    Majestic is faster and better than Moz in my opinion and easier to check for backlinks and anchors.
     
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    Thanks bro, and you know what I own the LTP already actually, but not the VIP version that shows competitiveness. I have been sat here this morning thinking about metrics and things. I was working something out for myself perhaps you might want to take a look... Ok, so say if I have a website site that has: TF of 7 , CF of 46, DA of 33 and PA of 44 so that's 130 in total. So, with that current link building method, I managed to get a score of 130 etc...

    Next, I take that overall number and keyword research a niche in the same field, I use a software such as the LTP which scrapes top 10 results, checks them for their scores then calculates the average of the top 10, if the average is less than 130 could I consider that a factor that I should be able to rank it, after checking everything else such as overall links/onpage SEO etc...

    Of course that's an estimation only though, nothing which will work 100% as you know, then I ask myself... how does the LongTailPro actually calculate their internal number for the keyword competitiveness, being it does not include as you said Majestic metrics.
     
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    Hey Mr Cracker,

    Co-Founder of SERPWoo here. We've got an API coming out that might be able to handle exactly what you are requesting. I'll also look into seeing what metrics we can offer within the keyword finder tool to help you out as well. I'll hit you up in PM to see if we can provide a beta test solution of some sort for you.
     
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    Sounds good actually, thanks, let me know.