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SERIOUSLY: Why Pay $10/hour when you can get job done for $1/hour?

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by toxtom, Dec 22, 2009.

  1. toxtom

    toxtom BANNED BANNED

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    I don't live in US but in shitty EU country where minimal wage is $2/hour and still there are now 70 workers per 1 free work spot - can't simply find a job for even such an money.

    But.. Let's say for example in UK it was 6pounds/hour minimum or something like that , why da fck they even hire those for desk jobs/ data entry/ support / there and pay them like $10-$15/hour when there are millions of guys from countries like india/philliphines who are ready to work for $1/hour those jobs or even less and they can do the same job as the guy sitting in office and asking $10/hour..
    Stupid people I must say..
     
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  2. seojumper

    seojumper Regular Member

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    Many corporations IBM, DELL ... do have support centers, helpdesks in India.
     
  3. mackay22

    mackay22 Regular Member

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    I agree

    however on the flip side sometimes training foreign people to do things the same as a local would can be expensive and time consuming.
     
  4. IKbentim

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    Many small companies outsource their stuff the thing i don't get is why those $1/h people dont do blackhat themselfs.. they upload youtube videos and fill in forums and do all that stuff and they never think "hmm how much is my boss making with this" ?
     
  5. toxtom

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    yeah lol I'm wondering the same- I guess they just want the stability and keep the $1/hour instead of learning what their boss do and try to do the same!
     
  6. toxtom

    toxtom BANNED BANNED

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    If that's repeating task - 1-2days max and you have him fully trained or 3-4days max for some more intense stuff.
    Not really that expensive and they do the job as good as local when you can monitor him ( like using teamviewer to see what he's doing and what not! )
     
  7. seosutra

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    ummm,, outsourcing is killer, I wonder wats going to the end of it. The worst part is, in countries like India & Philliphines, non -IT people still exist in large numbers. And they earn as per local standards. But the rates of real estate is going high because of such IT guys doing outsourced work for half the price but yet better than the locals. I feel very bad for non IT related ppl in India and in other developing countries.
     
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    toxtom BANNED BANNED

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    At least some of them gets up!
     
  9. g111k

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    I heard new generations in India and such are starting to learn/focus on English much more than their own language. Also some guy told me that to be "well off".. as in "better than average" you need to make about $300/month... IT guys can earn that by making a website for some small business they find through craigslist, which probably takes them like 3-4 days tops. I have no idea what non-IT people do there for this kind of money :S
     
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    well have you ever rang like tmobile and got call centre in india and have a problem which the adviser cant reslove they just put the phone down. bad for the company but in the uk you get better customer service. all us brits hate phoning and getting someone in india . i had to 3 mobile and got someone in india the advisor couldnt resolve the task in hand then i ask for manager , another advisor pretended to be a manager i ask for full name she got scared and put phone down. so all companies know that when the call center are in india its cheap but very very very very bad customer service or support and get many complaints. so its best keep all companies british

    if the advisors in india acts like adults and took their role serious then they would get loads more call centres in india and people would be happy to have an indian advisor.

    so its the indian advisors fault they hurting thier self when not dealing with the issue


    thats the reason why and no offence to indian people but you all know its true


    merry xmas and happy new year
     
  11. kumansk

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    Who told you people dont outsource?
     
  12. csgcsg2

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    so what if you can get things cheaper, its about quality vs quantity

    i can do a project and earn 1000 and have a peace of mind rather than earning 2000 but having to deal with tens of outsource people who have no qualms about running away at the first sight of problem
     
  13. dietbird

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    Because they don't see the big picture. And, their mindset is of a 'worker', not a 'creator'.

    You just give them a simple task - write 50 comments here and here, upload 100 videos here and here. They can't get the idea behind it ;)

    Just think about it, before you started doing IM, did you know about affiliate links and CPA offers, blogfarms, linkwheels... I doubt it.
     
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  14. spaceinvader

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    75% of the EU has a minimum wage. So good luck finding some one to work for $2 an hour. Do you mean non-eu/non-us? I can see the point in it but that sort of thinking by companies is one of the reasons why unemployment is high. Its a double edged sword. But thats capitalism for you; it has no conscience. :AR15firin
     
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    Maybe it 's good for some (small?) works. Good companies must have their own workers. It 's not the same thing as outsourcing jobs.
     
  16. pyronaut

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    And this, my friends, is the reason that hundreds of people a week are scammed on places like get-a-freelancer and rentacoder. Stop looking for the next amazing deal and just get on and pay someone who can actually do the work.
     
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    I understand losing jobs is no fun topic, and hence the topic of outsourcing most times than not becomes a very sensitive topic to comment on.

    The way I understand it: All employers/companies are loyal only to investors than any other community, including that of employees. Given that, it only makes profit sense to outsource or even to offshore the operations. This is beyond any company's management or a country's government to stop it or to even control it.

    Any move that any company's management/country's government takes to stop outsourcing can only make their foreign competitor companies more competitive and hence the so called 'protected 'non-outsourcing' employers aren't exactly protected from
    competition which is the bigger worry for most companies.

    BTW, I am yet to meet a T-mobile customer or customer of any other telecom provider who would like to pay few pounds more per month for a better customer service. Until such a time, I think, for good or worse, outsourcing is in...

    As for the thing of quality and outsourcing and all of that, companies which care to outsource also care to invest time, efforts and money in ensuring outsourcing their operations has no impact on quality of their offerings at all. Most times companies establish very well defined goals to achieve out of outsourcing even before they begin to outsource, including that of improvement or sustaining quality of their offerings, improvement of profit margins, etc. The 'me too' outsourcing companies without a clear definition of 'why to outsource' and 'how to outsource' are the ones which suffer the most...
     
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  18. pyronaut

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    Disagree. I worked for an ISP for quite sometime. And well, if you live in New Zealand pretty much the prices are all level. Which in any competitive market they will be. And as such, the ISP i worked for did really well because we had a local call center that hired friendly locals to answer the phones.

    People switched to us purely because we had such a friendly call center and sales reps.
     
  19. dietbird

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    Yeah, but you said it yourself, the price is the same ;) So, of course they'd switch. But if your monthly fee was higher?
     
  20. pyronaut

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    Ours was slightly higher. But not by much.

    Hold on, lemme find the pricing right now :p

    Comparatively the same :

    http://www.compass.net.nz/residential/internet/broadband.asp
    https://www.telecom.co.nz/broadband/select/1,10627,205836-204473,00.html

    First one being the one i used to work for. Phone services are slightly more expensive i believe.

    Its hard to say how broadband pricing works unless you actually live in New Zealand. Its pretty messy to say the least.

    Regardless of whether people would pay more to be with us. People's sole reason to switch to us was because of our native english service. Meaning more customers in the end for us anyway. Regardless of whether we were making more profit per customer, the profit as a company as a whole was larger.

    And that is the reason why we didnt switch to a call center in india.