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Serious badass marketers: Being fast and taking advantage of Charlie Hebdo -Paris shooting

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by euros123dotcom, Jan 9, 2015.

  1. euros123dotcom

    euros123dotcom Junior Member

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    There are methods where you follow what is trending and try to make a buck out of it. I guess some people take this to the next level!

    Look at this

    Ebay: http://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313&_nkw=Charlie+Hebdo&_sacat=0

    Some guys didn't think twice and are selling "Je suis Charlie" merchandise...unbelievable!

    Teespring (of course! Low hanging fruit here):

    http://teespring.com/#q=Charlie Hebdo&p=2

    Etsy (incredible: I checked this and only a couple of hours into the event people where trying to bank with this)

    https://www.etsy.com/pt/search?q=Charlie%20Hebdo


    What do you think Blackhaters? Do you think this is ethical? Do you think this is a legit money maker trend? Maybe tomorrow Justin Bieber drops dead and people make T-shirts and bank.

    Not judging anybody, but would like to hear your thoughts. Wish you well and good luck for 2015!
     
  2. ExpressFans

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    This sort of thing makes me sick!
    There are so many options online that would allow people to make custom pin buttons/shirts or whatever if they'd wished to display their support to the cause.
    But the fact that people rush to follow these tragic "trends" for a quick profit is sickening!

    If they truly supported the issue, why not sell them at cost!
     
  3. yensidtlaw

    yensidtlaw Power Member

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    I think it sounds like a great way to stand up to those scumbags. It's spreading a message that the whole world needs to be on board with. "We aint gonna be terrorized!" (Back to the Future Part 2). I'd be happy that the people selling them are getting paid for their purchasing and labor.
     
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    nanavlad Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    This nothing new
    The best thing that can happen for a record label or movie company, is for a major star to die
    Young, Sales of his other work go through the roof

    Look at VanGogh
    The guy couldn't give his paintings away, while he was living
    Now try buy one for less than $200 million
     
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  5. neverquitting

    neverquitting Regular Member

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    I'm not sure why, but for some reason people confuse blackhat (not bowing down to Google's wishes) with unethical. You see people people willing to scam, hack, and exploit people.

    This is kind of a weird situation, though. On the one hand, you almost certainly have people who just wanted a way to be part of a grassroots response. Making a t-shirt is a simple way to do that. Some of those designs are at least thoughtful. At the same time, there are definitely folks who heard this and saw dollar signs. The problem is, there's no clear way to know who's who.

    Personally, I like to think I wouldn't ever stoop to that level, but who knows? If I and my family were starving, would I cast aside my moral compass to support them? Yeah, probably.
     
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  6. euros123dotcom

    euros123dotcom Junior Member

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    Good thoughts neverquitting. I was thinking the same: maybe some folks are desperate, maybe they thought this is a way of supporting the cause. Personally I would have reservations about the reactions of people that see this as an ad on their FB news stream. Some people will clearly interpret this as trying to make money with a tragedy.

    On the other side nanavlad is correct, many companies do this all the time (media being one of the worst). Magazine sales will go through the roof. Over the next couple of weeks we will see an explosion of interviews, discussions, etc. I better hurry and create a "How to become a cartoonist" course on Udemy...
     
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    People are going to want t-shirts with that slogan on so I guess they have to buy them somewhere. Whenever there is a demand for something, there is a supply.

    I guess the ethics of selling the t-shirts depends on the motivation of those selling them.

    Personally, I think the more people wearing such t-shirts in Paris tomorrow, the better.

    If you think those t-shirt guys were quick, take a look at the jesuischarlie domains - they all got grabbed on the day of the shootings
     
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  8. jazzc

    jazzc Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    What's unethical about providing people things they want? You seem to forget the fact that people choose to pay for these.
     
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    The whole world of "journalism" works on that principle. The more drama, bad news, s*it they write about people, aka profiting on the suffering of others, the more they sell..
     
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  10. Sgt Kraut

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    What people want is not a good indicator on what is ethical or unethical. I don't see much problems in selling "je suis Charlie" t-shirts, but you're argument takes it a bit too far and would justify a lot of bad stuff...
     
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  11. Ricky Roma

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    money never sleeps
     
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    Couldn't have said it any better.

    "Ethics" aren't - real they are subjective.

    People have different "ethics" based on how they grew up, what they believe in etc. There is no "right or wrong" so it's impossible for you to say that someone is being "un-ethical" because you will both have two different version of what being ethical is.
     
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    the right to choose includes the right to choose wrong.
     
  14. Debian

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    Yep, I fully agree with this.
     
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    Its best to come to the realization that the majority of morals are bs, the only morals one should have are ones that keep them out of prison where they reside.
     
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    I agree, not very ethical some people have no shame..
     
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    Every brand do it one way or another. Marketing is all about coinciding your content+product with the emotions of a particular demographics of people. There is nothing unethical in it. Some do it to a tall height and some less. The ethics remains the same. OP have you not seen those commercial ads on your TV?
     
  18. The Scarlet Pimp

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    one week after princess di's car crash there were "commemorative" plates on tv.

    this was to help the public remember what she looked like, because 25 years of non-stop photo coverage of every waking moment of her life just wasn't enough for some people.
     
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  19. VincentVega

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    As soon as I heard of the Charlie Hebdo thing I knew that there will be way more than one teespring campaign about it.
     
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  20. Sgt Kraut

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    Yes and no. There are always borders. With jazz's argument you could start selling ivory, endangered animals, children and so on and it would be okay, as you would be "providing people things they want". Some people want all kind of fucked up stuff and just because there is demand, doesn't mean it is okay to fill that demand.