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Seo providers taking us for dumb

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by ebusin3ss, Apr 13, 2014.

  1. ebusin3ss

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    I was looking the past days for a powerfull seo package and recognized that most seo providers show proof of the power of their seo service with screenshots of serprise with textes like from nowhere to #1 etc .
    Even the most known seo providers are using it.
    My personal issue with that is if they show something like that they should be also forced to provide data of the keyword,competition etc.

    Cause what does that graph show ?It just shows that a random keyword got on #1 but no info about that keyword.It could be a keyword with 50 searches a month and you wouldnt even know it since there is no data provided.I guess the providers want me to
    clairvoyance how difficult that keyword was and which provider used a more difficult keyword.

    Its a shame bhw allows stupid marketing tricks like that against his own members.
     
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  2. methodman90

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    Well that's the only way BHW owners earns something from their site, alias when a member upgrades to jr.vip, and most members do that only to be able to sell somethng in bhw marketplace.
    so you do 1+1=2.
     
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    So, you fall for it and now you feel like a sucker?
     
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  4. ebusin3ss

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    Fall for what ?Even to dumb to read a thread properly ?
     
  5. Duffers5000

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    You are right about pointless graphs but thats hardly the only evidence available to you before you make a purchase.

    You can request samples. You can read the reviews. Most BSTs have several pages of reviews. Like Amazon you can see biased reviews and reviews that are of little use but overall you should get a picture of the sellers standards and customer service.

    You can look through a members history. Have they had BSTs before ? How did that work out. Did they look after people and close down when they started working on a new method or did they leave a mess of unhappy customers behind.

    I always recommend trying out small packages first. Amazes me to see people moaning that they spent $1500 on crap when they should have gotten a $49 mini pack to check it out.

    Anyway you are on the internet and this is an internet marketing forum. You have to try a few people until you get providers you can trust. Some sellers will definitely dissapoint you but the standards here are still higher that every other place I can think of.
     
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  6. twitter.followers

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    Can you prove your statement?

    BHW charges just a $30 fee to list your services in the marketplace and its not the only income stream but a way to keep the marketplace cleaner by charging a nominal fee and keeping the hundreds of spammers who want to sell poor quality services for free everywhere around the web.

    And about Jr.VIP, its a way of giving back to the community if it helped you in starting your money making adventure. And there are thousands of Jr.VIP members and only a handful of sellers at Marketplace so that sums it up already.

    Now, lets talk about Donors, if someone who is only interesting in getting something back for the money and considers it an investment, why would they buy the Donor status? Again, its a way of giving back to the community by donating money to help it expanding and keep running smoothly. And there are thousands of people with Donor status as well. So, kindly post something which helps and motivates people rather than spreading false information and misleading people.
     
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    LOL, Don't you know that these graphs can be manipulated?
     
  8. ebusin3ss

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    The issue is what i could also read on older shitlist threads that people gave good reviews even when their service sucked.There was one seo provider with only good reviews which turned out to be total scam and who forced his customers to leave good reviews.So i doubt you can trust much on reviews.Also friends are helping friends to push their sales.
    History of a member just shows how legit he is working but doesnt show anything how powerfull his seo package is.

    It just amazes me cause since i left bhw which was back in 2008 the seo threads were all extremly informativ and you can say that 95% of the sellers where a really good offer.Now coming back in 2014 i see that you have to search for a good provider and loose money to filter the bad ones out.Buying a $49 package also doesnt give you much info if you are interrested into buying a $500-1000/month package.

    Its just a shame how bhw quality changed from 2008 to 2014.Its going in a bad direction and this quality wasnt what made bhw big.


    Back in my times on bhw (2008) Jr.VIP was bought to get access to better quality content.I guess that changed too since when reading posts from some people its not worth buying Jr.VIP for the sake of better content

    and if you wanted to give back to the community you could buy the donor status
     
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  9. MadStacks

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    You need to know something about SEO before going shopping for it so you can sift through the bullshit.
    Do you also buy a car when you don't know how to drive one?
     
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    Most of the SEO providers will do that with you on a one on one basis (Not showing the actual KW(s) ofc).

    What was your previous username when you were a JR Vip??
     
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    Dumb people do dumb things, it is what dumb people do. Do you want to know how I know what ranks my sites? I try and test it all for myself. Takes time and money, but in the end, what you end up with is things you know will work.
     
  13. VinceC

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    As always post useless reply.
     
  14. ikilledkenny

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    95% of the providers here are total shit anyway and you can spot them, screenshots don't change my mind a bit

    beside tbh i dont even read BST's anymore since all those long-ass pic & designs ... marketers fail to market
     
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    Thanks for giving lots of people here heads up. Many assume the graph backed with the review is just way to go in picking the right provider. It goes beyond that and requires you to have a prior knowledge of today's SEO before interacting with the seller. If he is trying to sell you the old retired SEO strategy then RUN.
     
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    Yes, you always post useless crap, you;re right.

    So, you have been here before, you;re banned, now you came back with another profile to bitch and moan?
     
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    why people got so much hate? read the reviews on thread. People say they got serp rise -means service worked for them. You can't ask for that service to work with everyone?

    The definition of hard, easy, medium is subjective. For you lose weight fast must be hard, for others it's easy. For some it's medium. That does not mean you ask providers to reveal keywords. Would you like if they do that with you?

    I agree mods should get strict with approving threads - too many web 20 services (offer something new or do not offer), blog comments same thing but they are not nazi and know that bad services always fall on their feet. Look at any dying thread.
     
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    Would you mind sharing who's the 5% that actually does what they promise?
     
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    I completely disagree with this. The BST owner has to provide a review service to the moderator first. If the result is not acceptable, the BST won't be live ever.
    I personally believe that the owners as well as the mods do their best to keep the marketplace clean. It's not only about money. If it was, every BSTs would have been accepted instantly, because it would result in much more money.
     
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    Elsewhere on google or other forum its worst.here at least you can open a shitlist on a buyer for false promises and who scammed you and most of the time the buyer get full refunds.