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SEO MYTH DEBUNKED: You do NOT need VIEWS to rank on Google!!!

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by serpmover2014, Feb 21, 2015.

  1. serpmover2014

    serpmover2014 Regular Member

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    I see SO many newbies confused and thinking they need youtube views to their videos to rank high on Google search. This isn't TRUE! The truth is google doesn't care at ALL, about how many views your video has. If you want to rank on Google with your youtube video you can do it with ANY amount of views. My friends video just hit page #1 position #8 with some cheap $49.99 per month private blog network links and this video now got over 100 real views from the rankings. NO BOTTED fake stuff that risk your account and channel.

    See for yourself

    Youtube video ranking page #1 position 8 on Google

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    Youtube video- Started SEO with video at 2 views

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    This is for the people I see who keep posting that they are buying youtube views to rank their videos on google. Save your money! You don't need them. Real views will come in from seo when you are ranked at the top of Google.
     
  2. Asif WILSON Khan

    Asif WILSON Khan Executive VIP Jr. VIP

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    What is the competition for that keyword?
     
  3. serpmover2014

    serpmover2014 Regular Member

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    Don't know the exacts but I do know it has 10 million competing pages and 2,500 monthly searches.
     
  4. Gyuman82

    Gyuman82 Elite Member

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    Now only if you could debunk the myth of competing pages you'd be all set.
     
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    100 views? You can get 10,000 real views within the next 24 hours by just going to google trend, find 10 hot topics, rip 10 videos related to the hot topic, upload the videos and over optimize the title, description, and closed caption script. Do this for 10 videos and boom 10,000 real views in 24 hours. Now monetization is a different story.
     
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    Views not needed if your keyword has less competition.
     
  7. SEO Power

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    This is what I was about to post. Most, if not all, YouTube uploaders have only ever needed views for boosting their rankings in YouTube's search engine, not in Google. So, not sure what myth is being debunked here.
     
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    Great Point right here^

    It doesn't look like G and YT communicate with each other in terms of views....
     
  9. SeoDouche

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    nice to know dis
     
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  10. dekadent30

    dekadent30 Power Member

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    I knew this 5 years ago already, only backlinks can rank your video in google (and youtube too). Now its harder but possible (tier link building)
     
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    asunshine Newbie

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    Great share. Thanks. I'm glad to know this instead losing money.
     
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  12. BreaknBrix

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    Dumbest thread ever. OP, I've said this before and I'll say it again. Your friend ranked 1 video. I've tried ranking at least 500 videos. About 50 videos were for high competition keywords, 100 for medium then 300+ for low competition and local videos. I've also ran enormous case studies on ranking videos in Google. 1 case study I tracked more than 10,000 videos for a course of 8 months. I reported the raw data on BHW.

    Don't go around spreading bullshit based on 1 highly insignificant and meaningless test.

    Because the rules are the rules and you're not gonna change the rules just cause your rookie friend ranked some shitty animated video.

    Here are the rules:

    1) 90% of the time a video needs to be on page 1 of YT before G will even consider ranking it. 10% of the time you can rank a video on page 1 of G while it's still on page 2 of YT but it's very rare. And you rank on YT with nothing other than RV's.

    2) Google demoted 64% of all YT videos from the SERPS between Jan 2014 to Aug 2014. Making it much harder to predict if a certain video keyword rank IF there are no other videos currently ranking for that keyword. IF there already is a video on pg 1 of G, then you know you can rank a video. If not, which is most cases, you need to attack guerrilla style using multiple videos going after multiple sets of keywords.

    3) Yes, you can rank a YT video with PBN links. However, I can outrank your friends video with pure GSA spam and it's much cheaper.

    4) Yes, there are other factors that play a role in video rankings (optimization) but retention views are still the most important.

    5) Further proof that retention views are the most important. Google & YT invested millions hiring new staff / upgrading their algo to wipe out most retention view suppliers. You think they did this cause why? Cause retention views weren't the #1 foremost important thought on their mind? Cause they're not the most effective way that marketers rank? LOL. Give me a break dude.

    -BB
     
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    Yes are may be correct...ranking is not a easy task...
     
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  14. Aty

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    Nice post BreaknBrix, I guess we can call it a checkmate.
     
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  15. serpmover2014

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    No need to get so uptight guy. Im not doubting YOU or YOUR EXPERIENCE on this topic. I simply posted this FOR the people who have been posting they are spending hundreds if not thousands a month on youtube views trying to rank their videos in google when my friend just ranked a video on Google starting with 2 views. Just my 2 cents.
     
  16. serpmover2014

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    Your welcome glad this helped someone
     
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    Views are most important factor to rank in youtube but it's a least important in google. But, you can't came into conclusion just by ranking one video.
     
  18. praetserge

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    It's a very good post and I thank you for it... but I'd think that after all your success you'd learn to reference your material.
    "Google demoted 64% of all YT videos from the SERPS between Jan 2014 to Aug 2014." - where did 64% figure come from? if you reference something like this I'm sure you know that you have to show us where that number comes from, otherwise you just conjure up the numbers which have no meaning whatsoever.
     
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  19. Ambassy

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    Wtf kind of myth are you referring to.
    This has been common knowledge for as far as I can remember back - everyone knows this.

    You've joined BHW a couple of months ago. How about you learn the ropes a couple of more months before you attempt to lecture us with your "enlightening wisdom".
    I could search up 10+ threads from years back that already discussed this topic (including posts I've made myself).
     
  20. webhr88

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    I think Keyword is more important for Google rank