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SEO Is Dead

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by superman, Nov 11, 2008.

  1. superman

    superman BANNED BANNED

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    Wow! what a read this article is by Micah Baldwin

    Micah say if your in the seo business you will be out of business in 3 years .
    http://learntoduck.com/search-marketing/seo-is-dead

    That is a huge statement if true show the complete alteration of the internet
    within these next 3 years ...

    But one assurance is people have made huge prediction about the internet before and been dead wrong.Yet again I had a few people tell me (few years back) that adsense money would only be huge for a while so grab it now while you can and they were right !
     
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    he means that the profession of SEO experts will die out..not that SEO is dead
     
  3. superman

    superman BANNED BANNED

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    Yes I understand that but in truth it will also mean a huge difference in the internet business .

    One thing I have a problem with is he said "Not only is SEO on its way out, (as platforms such as WordPress and other CMS? integrate SEO principles into their frameworks), "

    But then he says this ?

    "Do this , select a CMS framework (I recommend WordPress?it works great for even non-blogs!), that supports solid SEO principles. With WordPress, install two plugins: All-In-One SEO and XML sitemaps. Thats it for SEO"
     
  4. oldenstylehats

    oldenstylehats Elite Member Premium Member

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    Micah Baldwin and most of the people like him are amateurs at best. They extend this kind of trite, sensationalist, generally binary platitude with confidence because it conveys a notion of authority to people who know even less than they do. It also brings them attention online, which points out potential character flaws, but this is neither the time nor the place. What is relevant, is that you need to have a crowd of believers to pay money for tickets for worthless seminars to keep the cash valve open for as long as possible, lest someone outs you as a fraud and your career is effectively ended.

    The intellectual foundation of SEO is reverse engineering. As long as search engine companies inform their ranking and positions by using relevance indices provided by similarity algorithms, SEO will still be alive (to continue the same ridiculous, anthropomorphic relationship as the author.) This article is just baseless assertion after baseless assertion from a moron with a degree in sociology and an unimpressive history in the start-up world.

    EDIT: A far more intelligent assertion to make would be that as search makes the transition from single broad-based engines (Google now, for the most part) to a series of highly specialized, vertical engines (for examples look at Google's corporate search engines, Google Scholar, Google Patent, etc), the rules of SEO will change, but the field as a whole will still exist.
     
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  5. shodan

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    I think he's wrong. Hiring & interviewing people takes time and money and finding skilled workers is no easy task. IMO companies will rather go the route to outsource SEO services to a specialized company than hiring staff for it.
     
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    The game may change, but SEO will live on. It's just like any other industry that goes through changes.
     
  7. seomanifest

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    Seo is far from dead, we all have to remember one very important fact, we are NOT competing against the search engines but against our competitors, and whether the way we achieve it is through the SEO of today or the SEO of tomorrow there will always be new tactics that we will have to come up with to stay ahead of the game, SEO is about reverse engineering whether it is the search engine algorithms through trial and error or through competitive analysis. If SEO were dead so would the search engines and I do not see that happening anytime soon. That's my 2 cents
     
  8. Aeterna

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    It's even simpler than that. Granted I'm extremely new to IM and SEO, but it seems rather intuitive that just in the case of Google SERPS, there can only be one #1, one #2, one #3 and so on. It might be easier to get these spots in the future, but if its easier for one person, its easier for all people, and the competition will remain.
     
  9. BuzzKill

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    That article was garbage. Reminds me of some loud mouth in a bar making ignorant sweeping statements without putting any thought into it. It didn't address anything relevant. It didn't address off site SEO.. It also didn't address that there is no shortage of companies who do not have any interest in bringing someone in house, or learning to write for the web. Ugh.. It didn't address a lot of things. Stupid article.
     
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    Is SEO being underlined for a reason on BHW? I just noticed that it is underlined in every thread now...did I miss a post about it?
     
  11. oldenstylehats

    oldenstylehats Elite Member Premium Member

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    It's part of the forum script. When certain commonly used abbreviations are written, they are highlighted and the full phrase appears if you mouse over the word.
     
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    Micah Baldwin is full of fermented BS. The basic principles of how searches are performed and how the information is stored and retrieved by search engines isn't likely to change, and neither is elementry, fundamental SEO.

    As far as Adsense goes, well that decline is in the eye of the beholder. I'm making more than ever in Adsense with practically no changes on my old websites.

    I finally figured out after four years of scratching my head that the best thing I have ever done is unsubscribe from all the maling lists, canceled all money making membership websites, and concentrated on repeating what is working for me. I browse a couple of forums like this one for a few minutes each day to see what's going on in the IM world. Mostly it is bull shit and I go back to building web pages.
     
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  13. superman

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    whs1978 what you are making more then ever on adsense ?

    "I'm making more than ever in Adsense with practically no changes on my old websites"

    What are you using to create website nicheportalbuilder.com lol
     
  14. seomanifest

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    Too many of us spend too much time analyzing instead of sticking to what works it the 80/20 rule except some of us (me included) are getting it all wrong and spending way too much time digging up new information hoping it will make us a better SEO
     
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    just off topic, went to your blog, must say it looks really good :arms: especially the way your banner displays let latest blog entries
     
  16. tekg0r

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    interesting post. Frankly looks like alot of FUD. SEO will change. No, it won't be about using tricks to leap to #1 in the rankings. It will become more and more complex, to the point of requiring not just 'fixing' but total integration with all your marketing processes.
     
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    I agree with oldenstylehats. SEO is not going to die in 3 years. The internet is in fact changing everyday but, i don't think I have anything to worry about for a long time.

    Then I'll just do Blackhat stuff for money.

    lol
     
  18. whs1978

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    Well, one of my original websites that I nearly abandonded is making over 1.5 K from Adsense. I rarely add new content to that website.

    You're going to laugh, but I use Frontpage 98 for quick and dirty pages and PHP for menus and things that may need site-wide updates. It probably takes me five to ten times longer to build a web page than most people because I research and include useful content on web pages.

    I'm talking about pages that contain info that I would like to find when I do a web search for a topic. The pages get indexed and I get visitors. People visit from email links and recommendations from forum postings about where to get information about "?????".

    The problem is that it takes a lot of patience and a long time to do this. The rewards aren't quick in coming and that is where I screwed up. I spent most of at least four years wasting my time and money dabbling with crappy guru recommendations because I wasn't instantly rewarded for my original work and decided I was doing the wrong thing.

    I really feel stupid because if I had just continued building solid web pages and submitting articles for backlinks during all that wasted time I would be vastly ahead of where I am now.
     
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  19. oldenstylehats

    oldenstylehats Elite Member Premium Member

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    Quality content is and always has been the king of sustainable white hat traffic and income online. That is one of the very few consistent themes of marketing online.
     
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    Amen brother ! He is bush league at best. I agree with you 100%, the rules of SEO will change, but certainly not disappear.