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SEO Competition of raw text web pages

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by nimo, Nov 14, 2016.

  1. nimo

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    Hi,
    I want to organize an SEO competition and i am willing to pay money to the winner. My problem is to find the incentives for SEO workers to join my competition.

    Here is some information about the competition.
    The process:
    Each competitor (an SEO senior or junior) will have to write a raw text document (a simplified web page with about 150 words) which is about the information need pertained from the given query. The publisher's document will be inserted to the database of the search engine in order to be ranked. After the search engine will finish ranking all documents, all competitors will be able to view their document rank but also other posted competitors' documents. Let's note the latter as iteration.
    After the first iteration there will be 19 more iterations but now, with the knowledge the competitor will be going to gather, she will need only to edit the document in order to improve her document's rank.


    I am searching for both participants and incentives to join the competition. At first i am asking for several participants to test it, but after we test it, we want to organize a large scale competition.

    What do you think?
     
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    I like it, except I would have totally unfair advantage. I could put a unique phrase in my document. Find it as soon as it is indexed and then put 50000 footer links from a PR7 site towards it and dominate the rankings... it doesn't test who has the best SEO... it tests who has the most resources at their disposal which is really an unfair contest since I am backed by a large online retailer.

    Now if all the contestants were competing for an imaginary word and pages are disqualified for having unauthorized backlinks THEN you would be testing whose on page kung fu is best.

    But it would have to be pages on the same domain... do you allow or disallow freshness updates? Does it have to be webmaster guidelines compliant and who judges that and how? etc...
     
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    I think you missed the point. The competition's search engine does not index web pages. It indexes static web pages and contestants ones. You, as a contestant have only permission to edit your document which means you can add words or delete words to your specific document.
     
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    So I add the word "spigle-de-spork-77" to my document... I search Google until I find the contest URL... Then I throw a mountain of high PR backlinks and make it rank the best...contest won. If it can be gamed like that then you aren't testing who's SEO is best... you are testing who has the most resources.
     
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    Sorry mate, wrong again. You should be aware of the fact that the search engine we use to rank documents will rank only ours, and it doesn't has a connection to outside world.
    The only connection with the outsize world is the post/edit system. The competition's system sends a feedback to contestants based on an inner collection.
    Does it make sense?
     
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    I guess, but no one has SEO experience with an unknown search system. So is this actually an SEO contest or just a way to crowdsource testing of your search engine... you might get a better outcome by offering bounties for bugs if you are just trying to improve a proprietary document search.

    So I guess I don't understand where "Everyday SEO" comes into play.
     
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    That is what we want to test, an experienced SEO should have some tricks which are not depend on a specific search enigne.
    It makes the competition fair.

    It's a big challenge for SEO expert, to test herself in an unknown area. Of course, those who win will be honored, and those who lose will be remained anonymous.
    I see it as a good experience for both us the competition organizers and the SEO workers.

    Agree?
     
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    Yeah... seems more like an expert lottery if the search results aren't public. SEOs understand how search engines blend factors like LSI, relevance (keyword stuffing), citations, etc. into a ranking score... an SEO would want to run searches on a system before coming up with a strategy on how best to rank a document on that system.

    Or if I had to go blind then I would take the content from http://ciir.cs.umass.edu/downloads/SEIRiP.pdf which is the highest ranking document for "search engine" and replace "search engine" with "apple pie" or whatever the contest terms are.

    But this isn't really a contest about the best SEO... it is something different.
     
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    Results are public but the game is played in a closed environment. An SEO expert would probably try at first to test the system with several techniques but later on, she should find a winning strategy to improve the document's rank. Its an SEO but pure since you are able only to add or remove words. By the way, keyword stuffing is cought by the search engine so one who use this techniq will be penalized.
     
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    That's what they keep telling me about Google too... :) But to date the core of relevance algorithms still seems to be "whoever says it more is more relevant" which is why match counts seem to be the #2 factor after backlinks. But in Google's defense there are zones where it works and zones where it does not.
     
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    As for Google, you are completely right.
    In a controled competition like ours, be sure we will catch you.
     
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    This has been done here on BHW.

    Except our lab was.....The Google...

    Someone ranked buy viagra # 1 just for shits and giggles. Google came out and said the new update was great and so on. So a bored BHW'er ranked #1 and we all had a great laugh.
     
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    Robot would never find your stuffing tricks, but humans will.
     
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    With artificial intelligence and really smart crawlers, it's getting tougher to game the system. But still, as some SERPs show constantly, it's possible.
     
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    Let's move back to the main issue:
    Any idea on how to hire people for this task?