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senukex - not seeing the results I would like to see

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by verdox, Aug 16, 2011.

  1. verdox

    verdox Regular Member

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    Guys just after some feedback (again!) I have been using senuke for about a week now and have yet to see any changes in the serps for my main keyword. I am stuck on page 2 (position 14 or so) for a very very competitive keyword, I have blasted the hell out of the site with full monty template blasts both to the money site and link pyramids I have wrapped around, I tried blasting articles on ezine and article base I have that are established, I have tried scrapebox blasting some of the senuke properties everything, but not any change at all...

    I might put this down to the keyword just being to competative, but I am throwing money at this site left right and centre and it just won?t move!
    • Unique Article wizard, T1 and T2 blasting with this
    • Over 150 link pushes from link pushing, to all tiers
    • AMR - money site links, trial only
    • Scrapebox - to all tiers of everything
    • Senuke - money site and T1 T2 blasts
    • Fiver bookmark, EDU link and xrummer blasts
    • Manual article marketing with and without blasting those articles with any and or all of the above
    • CPC, facebook adverts, facebook page, twitter marketing
    • Google +1 exchanges
    • DMOZ listed (after all sorts of fun and finally becoming an editor)
    • Directory listings
    The list I am sure is still to short, I am sure I missed some!

    time to give up? :)
     
  2. Checkmate

    Checkmate Elite Member

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    How long has it been stuck in that same position?
     
  3. SuperLinks

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    Jesus christ man, give it some time.

    You just told us, page 2 for a very very very competitive keyword.

    Competitive keywords take time! SEO takes time! If it was as easy as doing what you are doing for top Google rankings, then everyone would get top rankings in a matter of weeks as well.

    What you need to do is keep building and give it some time. Also what are you doing for solid high PR backlinks? Those are the real icing on the cake, especially when they are matched with what you are doing above. Get yourself some high PageRank links, give yourself some time, and build out your site a little more.

    Also are you linking your internal pages on your money site and diversifying keyword anchor text?
     
  4. verdox

    verdox Regular Member

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    About 3 weeks now - I know it was a huge challenge to take on, but after about 3 months I got it to page two, while I listed a lot of tools I have been very careful and kept a consistent level of links flowing into the site across a wide mixture of services, it was working really well. I have first page placement for secondary keywords but my two main keywords have been stuck on page 2 for a few weeks.
     
  5. nethead01

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    how competitive is your niche?
     
  6. verdox

    verdox Regular Member

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    Thanks for the feedback, I know it takes time :) I am months and months into this project, I was working to a six month timeframe, and am very pleased to be on page 2 (after spending a lot of money and time!).

    The site is done, nothing more to add! It is an ecom site, totally SEO optimised. I have built pages around primary keywords, secondary and even built pages for the 'related search' results google provides. I built links to the primary pages and inner category pages as well as to some of those SEO optimised related search term pages.

    In respect to high PR posts that is why I am using senuke, I also build high PR lists with scrapebox, aside from that I am starting to get a bit lost here and am now trying to find ways to get links from quality sources, this one I am struggling with!
     
  7. verdox

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    About a million exact match sites, some huge names in that list as well and some very established aged sites, even behind me!
     
  8. Checkmate

    Checkmate Elite Member

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    Keep going then, all those people are going to stay ahead of you because they're working hard also.
     
  9. verdox

    verdox Regular Member

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    I monitor the top ten (who are only a few sites ahead) and watch the terms with google alerts, I only have two players ahead of me (link builders) and they are ony article marketing and not even blasting those articles, the rest are not doing anything :)
     
  10. spoon22

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    How many exact global searches the keyword has?
     
  11. SEOintraining

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    Read post #7 :)
     
  12. spoon22

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    Read post #7 and #10 :)

    ^^
     
  13. SEOintraining

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    I'm too tired to read properly :)

    Sorry
     
  14. verdox

    verdox Regular Member

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    Well, according to Google keyword tool 22,200 - as it is an ecom site I am actually targeting google UK which has 18,100 searches for my term (I am using geotargeting in google webmaster tools), the keyword has an English spelling, the US spelling of the same keyword has an even large number of searches, but! No prize for second place :) The traffic on page 2 is pants. I am so close, it is a big keyword, months and months of work :) If I get there it will be amazing.
     
  15. crosscheck

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    You can nuke blast scrape manually wack at it....But is everything you are building getting indexed??? If your urls are not getting indexed nothing will happen with rankings. I use the tools you mentioned as well but I also use 2 indexing services plus some other methods of getting links indexed too. Maybe knock down time on building links and use it dedicated to indexing. It is a important piece of the puzzle and can't be over looked imo.
     
  16. verdox

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    Fair comment, and the answer is no not all of it is indexed (very little actually from the junk stuff), what indexing services do you use?
     
  17. nandos

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    Have you got those links and put them through an indexing service?
     
  18. spoon22

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    I'm targeting a keyword with the same amount of searches (22.200 local). I'm 5th/6th place now which results in 30-40 visitors/day. The same amount i get with keywords around 2900 searches and 1st place ranking.

    I guess it's only worth the effort if one can grab the 1st place and hold the position there...

    How good is your monetization? From 10.000 UV's i get around 500-700$.
    Maybe yours is better and a first place ranking would be really worthwhile for you.
     
  19. lykathe

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    How uniquely spun are your articles?
     
  20. islandcoli

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    how many competing sites when you put your keyword in quotes? 1 million?!