Hello friends, I run an upstart online biz with an seo service, along with a few other services. Lately, I have begun research on seo software, and have found some good info on them, so i decided to give it a shot, and begain using the free trial of senuke xcr. I ran a test campeign on a website I was trying to help out, and found out that I was having trouble getting rankings beyond the bottom of the first page/ and second page of google, for most key words. My questions is, how do i know whats going on with it, if im over optmizing or not optimizing enough? I didn't want to continue with it untill i found out more, beacuse i didnt want to risk harming the site. I heard google can detect where the links are comming from and might not rank sites who've used programs such as senuke well. I know there are numourous other programs, and tactics can be used. So what would you guys recommend in this situation? I'm really looking forward to ya'lls feedback. ps. the keywords i was testing were 'novelty golf products' and other variations, about 6 mutations of.