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Sensation USADA To Strip Lance Armstrong of 7 Tour de France Titles

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  1. steelballs

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    Sensation USADA To Strip Lance Armstrong of 7 Tour de France Titles

    Unbelievable USADA To Strip Lance Armstrong of 7 Tour de France Titles which will surely lead to retribution by the UCI

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    Declaring "enough is enough," Lance Armstrong says he will not fight charges brought by the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency, a stunning decision that will cause him to be stripped of the seven Tour de France titles that turned him into an American hero.Lance Armstrong, decided on Thursday not to go to arbitration to dispute charges brought by the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency, which alleges the cyclist for years engaged in a blood-doping conspiracy.

    Lance Armstrong, seen here during the 2009 Tour de France, decided on Thursday not to go to arbitration to dispute charges brought by the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency, which alleges the cyclist for years engaged in a blood-doping conspiracy.

    USADA confirmed late Thursday it will strip him of all results since Aug. 1, 1998 and ban him from all competition for life. Armstrong said his decision did not mean he would accept USADA's sanctions. His lawyers threatened a lawsuit if USADA proceeded, arguing the agency must first resolve a dispute with the International Cycling Union over whether the case should be pursued.

    More Here?
    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/cycling/story/2012-08-23/Armstrong-doping-charges/57258616/1

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  2. BottingWorks

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    Not sure why he wouldn't fight it.

    Either admit guilt like a man, or fight to defend the titles you worked so hard to earn. I mean he did overcome cancer, twice.

    -- Then again, I've been having the thought, could doping have caused his cancer?
     
  3. steelballs

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    Not a chance I have followed his career very closely for over 20 years, and I can assure you there is no foundation to your question
     
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    As in, he never was involved in doping?

    Or that it is medically impossible for doping to cause cancer?


    It does make you wonder why he's not fighting it though, if he was to lose badly he'd also have people looking for a lot of money from him, not to mention the lawyer/ court fees.
    If he was truly innocent and looking to get back to his family and remove them from stress, he's going the wrong way about it.
     
  5. Duffers5000

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    The doping years came after his cancer. By doing this he is not conceding defeat per-se just recognising that he cant find the allegations for ever unless he wants to end up bankrupt. Unfortunately Doping was endemic is cycling for decades and theres no doubt Armstrong was a big player in the game. Its unfortunate because he was also an exceptional athlete but if one guys getting an advantage then everyone has to get involved or quit.

    If they do try to strip him of his titles it will be interesting to see who they get handed to when you consider this list.
    http://www.brettluelling.com/post/3435612945/armstrongs-tdf-victories
     
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    Hasn't he been fighting these claims for 13 years? And each time he's tested clean for sports related drugs, other than two times where his cancer medication was to blame.

    I'm not surprised he's given in. He's 40 years old and they just won't let it rest.
     
  7. steelballs

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    Best read his own statement direct from Lance Armstrong

    Armstrong does not recognize agency's right to ban him

    Statement by Lance Armstrong (lawyer's letter to USADA below)

    There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in winning my seven Tours since 1999. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a two-year federal criminal investigation followed by Travis Tygart's unconstitutional witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for our foundation and on me leads me to where I am today - finished with this nonsense. I had hoped that a federal court would stop USADA's charade. Although the court was sympathetic to my concerns and recognized the many improprieties and deficiencies in USADA's motives, its conduct, and its process, the court ultimately decided that it could not intervene.

    If I thought for one moment that by participating in USADA's process, I could confront these allegations in a fair setting and - once and for all - put these charges to rest, I would jump at the chance. But I refuse to participate in a process that is so one-sided and unfair. Regardless of what Travis Tygart says, there is zero physical evidence to support his outlandish and heinous claims. The only physical evidence here is the hundreds of controls I have passed with flying colors. I made myself available around the clock and around the world. In-competition. Out of competition. Blood. Urine. Whatever they asked for I provided. What is the point of all this testing if, in the end, USADA will not stand by it?

    From the beginning, however, this investigation has not been about learning the truth or cleaning up cycling, but about punishing me at all costs. I am a retired cyclist, yet USADA has lodged charges over 17 years old despite its own 8-year limitation. As respected organizations such as UCI and USA Cycling have made clear, USADA lacks jurisdiction even to bring these charges. The international bodies governing cycling have ordered USADA to stop, have given notice that no one should participate in USADA's improper proceedings, and have made it clear the pronouncements by USADA that it has banned people for life or stripped them of their accomplishments are made without authority. And as many others, including USADA's own arbitrators, have found, there is nothing even remotely fair about its process. USADA has broken the law, turned its back on its own rules, and stiff-armed those who have tried to persuade USADA to honor its obligations. At every turn, USADA has played the role of a bully, threatening everyone in its way and challenging the good faith of anyone who questions its motives or its methods, all at U.S. taxpayers' expense.

    For the last two months, USADA has endlessly repeated the mantra that there should be a single set of rules, applicable to all, but they have arrogantly refused to practice what they preach. On top of all that, USADA has allegedly made deals with other riders that circumvent their own rules as long as they said I cheated. Many of those riders continue to race today. The bottom line is I played by the rules that were put in place by the UCI, WADA and USADA when I raced. The idea that athletes can be convicted today without positive A and B samples, under the same rules and procedures that apply to athletes with positive tests, perverts the system and creates a process where any begrudged ex teammate can open a USADA case out of spite or for personal gain or a cheating cyclist can cut a sweetheart deal for themselves. It's an unfair approach, applied selectively, in opposition to all the rules. It's just not right.

    USADA cannot assert control of a professional international sport and attempt to strip my seven Tour de France titles. I know who won those seven Tours, my teammates know who won those seven Tours, and everyone I competed against knows who won those seven Tours. We all raced together. For three weeks over the same roads, the same mountains, and against all the weather and elements that we had to confront. There were no shortcuts, there was no special treatment. The same courses, the same rules. The toughest event in the world where the strongest man wins. Nobody can ever change that. Especially not Travis Tygart.

    Today I turn the page. I will no longer address this issue, regardless of the circumstances. I will commit myself to the work I began before ever winning a single Tour de France title: serving people and families affected by cancer, especially those in underserved communities. This October, my Foundation will celebrate 15 years of service to cancer survivors and the milestone of raising nearly $500 million. We have a lot of work to do and I'm looking forward to an end to this pointless distraction. I have a responsibility to all those who have stepped forward to devote their time and energy to the cancer cause. I will not stop fighting for that mission. Going forward, I am going to devote myself to raising my five beautiful (and energetic) kids, fighting cancer, and attempting to be the fittest 40-year old on the planet.
     
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    That must super extremely expensive not to mention humiliating. A case like this is food for lawyers on both side and they are the only winners. Meanwhile, after 13 years of headlines he can't erase the damage to his rep even if he wins.
     
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    Fuck USADA, Armstrong is always hero in my heart
     
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  10. steelballs

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    To get a true understanding of life in the peloton...

    Read
    The Death Of Marco Pantani, by Matt Rendell

    A truly harrowing and tragic insight into the world of professional cycling

    No one cannot imagine the pain in the peloton unless you have ridden with these guys..
     
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    Havent read the book about Pantani will try and check it out, fitting that he is pictured beside Armstrong in your lead. Would also recommend Rough Ride by Paul Kimmage which showed the endemic doping in the sport that was just part of the job
     
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    Cannot remember the exact figure but I know Pantani had more than $30 million dollars in his bank account at the time of his death as the drug dealers delivered that much cocaine to him, enough to build a white mountain - Marco had no chance they the drug peddlers stalked him for years due to his wealth - the book is a modern day insight into a drug fueled sports star, locked in deep depression imprisoned by drug dealers who made sure his life ended in death!
     
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    Who gives a damn what USADA thinks or decides. Some times an individual reaches to a state, where they can't be disrespected or demeaned, and I believe Lance reached that state years back when he started his cancer foundation, which has motivated and helped millions of cancer survivors. I've always found him a motivating person and going by his press release, it's clear that he is frustrated the manner in which things are being handled. WTF can they do against him. He is already a legend who is respected by billions of people across the world. Thanks OP for posting this. Cheers :).
     
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    I think the best way to fight this, is allow everyone to take whatever they want. It's their own life they're playing with then because they always find new products that can not be found yet, then it's fair for everyone.
    And my personal opinion: I never liked and respected Armstrong, he was arrogant, egocentric and because of his cancer he was allowed to take products that no other riders were allowed to. Of course he was using, most riders are/were using.
     
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    Yes, I agree.

    Whatever happens, cycling has always been tarnished with drugs. It was/is endemic, and there's a reason. Pro riders are on the road at least 11 months of the year training/competing. If they don't perform well in the big races, they won't get a new pro contract. I remember a pro cyclist from the UK who was in the major Tours revealing that it's only the 'dumb' riders who get caught. If you've got a good doctor, then you can take performance enhancing drugs without any fear.
     
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    When they strip him of his seven TdF - Tour de France titles they are going to hold a grand ceremony and award the winners ‘Maillot Jaune' yellow jersey title to the ‘Lantern Rouge' in each race as everyone else in the peloton was involved in some way or other in drugs and/or drug taking

    USADA have a lot to answer for and as the end game unfolds they are sure to be ‘Hoisted by Their Own Petard' this story is far from over!
     
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    USADA do have a lot to answer for and they have done just that.

    By providing massive and compelling evidence that Armstrong, the (former) 7 times Tour de France winner was a serial drug-taker and at the centre of one of the most systematic and sophisticated doping programmes in the sport.

    The evidence is overwhelming and compelling:
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    The whistleblowers (Armstrong's own team mates):
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    It's not just the drugs, but given the fact that Armstrong may have committed perjury, i.e. lied in court, would mean a prison sentence in the USA:
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    [URL]http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/12/sports/cycling/how-lance-armstrong-beat-cyclings-drug-tests.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0[/URL]
    
     
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  18. Roparadise

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    The USADA can go f*ck themselves, I still consider him a 7 time tour de france winner.
     
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    LANCE ARMSTRONG could now face FIVE YEARS in jail for perjury.

    In the saga's latest twist, the cyclist may be subject to criminal charges after denying drug use under oath in 2005.

    Armstrong was this week branded "a serial cheat" by the US Anti-Doping Agency.

    They slapped a lifetime ban on the Texan in August and stripped him of his seven Tour de France titles.

    But more seriously, under US law Armstrong can be charged with perjury and if found guilty, face jail.

    USADA listed SEVEN statements made by Armstrong to a Dallas court for which he could be charged.

    See more here

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/4586915/Lance-Armstrong-doping-Cyclist-could-face-five-years-in-jail-for-perjury.html
     
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    Lance Armstrong is not a cheat and still a 7 time winner of the tour de france, the USADA is a corrupt ngo that needs to be boycotted