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Sending mass email about affiliate product - few questions, really confused?

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by eXtremeXYR, Oct 4, 2014.

  1. eXtremeXYR

    eXtremeXYR Newbie

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    Guys,

    I have one question.. I'm not entirely sure if this is the right section, because this is mostly a question not a method/guide etc, but I really couldn't find a section that's related to questions, the closest being perhaps the Lounge..

    I'm curious about one thing.. If I were to build a bot that will scrape the web for emails.. And I let it run for days, and let's say I managed to get 1 million emails.. What would happen if I were to send mass email to all of them promoting, let's say a clickbank product?

    1) Is this legal? I mean it's spam, but what if in all those 1 million emails it ends up to a wrong person who is so pissed of this that he/she actually is willing to put his/her energy to try to do something to me? :D
    2) Can you guesstimate what conversion rate would be? I mean I mostly just ignore/thrash the spam emails, but I don't know, maybe 1 in 1000 will take a look?
    1% of 1 mill is 10,000 views.. if 1% of them converts it's still 100.. 100 x 40-100$ is not bad.. but I guess % is going to be even smaller..
    3) How would I go about sending that many emails at once? Are there services out there especially for this?

    EDIT: Also, because that list will be soooo untargeted, should a good way to promote be something that a high % of population is interested in, like health lifestyle?

    Thanks,
    eXtremeX
     
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  2. tok997

    tok997 Registered Member

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    1. No, it's illegal. None of those people agreed to receive emails from you. So technically you're not allowed to send them promotional emails.

    2. You're right, even if 1% out of 1 mil will convert, it will worth it. The better offer you'll choose the better % you'll get. Maybe a free giveaway or something?

    3. Since you didn't obtain those emails with the consent of their owners it's very unlikely that you'll be able to use any legit service. I know some people on this forum can help you out with mass email sender. But I don't remember the person's username, sorry. Update: maybe check out this thread (http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...ux-smtp-server-ip-rotation-rdns-spf-dkim.html)

    I would suggest you to think about the way to make certain percent of 1m email to actually signup for you newsletter. That way you'll get a chance to send them your offers in the future.
     
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  3. eXtremeXYR

    eXtremeXYR Newbie

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    Hey thank you for info..
    Really sorry for replying just now, had some personal problems..

    When you say it's illegal, do you mean like illegal-illegal, like you're going to jail-illegal or like downloading movies off torrent-illegal? :) There's a difference..

    Thank you!

    "The better offer you'll choose the better % you'll get. Maybe a free giveaway or something?"
    Yeah, a trial offer would probably be best bet in such a case..

    What if I were to promote my own email list to them? In that case, I'd do 1 illegal thing, mass send to everyone, let's say a few % signs up to my email list, I then have legal email list of targeted emails.. :D Again, it all depends on how severe this action really is..
     
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  4. tok997

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    You're welcome.

    I'm not 100% sure about severity of these illegal actions :) It also depends on a country where you reside. In theory you may be obliged to pay $xx,xxx in penalties. It's really hard to say. It also depends if you'll piss off people with your email sendings. And if yes - how many :)

    In my opinion the best option will be to convert part of those emails into a legit list (or several lists). With a custom email sender and a bunch of good landing pages it should be easy. At least you'll save yourself a trouble in the future and will have a longterm source of income.
     
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  5. T x J Is God

    T x J Is God Newbie

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    Untargeted lists are a waste of time. Especially scraping emails of the web are even worse.

    At least I know of in the U.S, if you are compliant under CAN-SPAM act, you can send out mass mails, as long as you attach Address info/name/number/ and a unsub link, then it should be good to go. Don't count me on that though, I could be wrong a bit.


    Never step into email marketing like this. Although I do not do it, it's not the best approach. I would say, since its not targeted, expect to get 0 viewers.
     
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  6. liquidglass

    liquidglass Registered Member

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    I'd agree with tok97, build a list out of it. Use a landing page with a free giveaway focused on a specific niche, they'll enter their email, boom you have them on your list, now it's legal to email them. As far as I'm aware you can legally send emails asking people to join a list but not legally spam them asking them to buy something.

    Then some further ideas, take everyone who joined your list, remove them from the original mailing list. Make another landing page with free give away in another evergreen niche, send it out and you have a second list. Continue infinium.
     
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  7. eXtremeXYR

    eXtremeXYR Newbie

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    Hey thanks guys!

    Yeah I agree it's not the cleanest method out there, but this is Black Hat forum after all :)
    That seems like a good idea.. untargeted email list -> free offer/opt-in -> legal mail list..

    I might try it one day, since I'm looking at this more from "let's build a scrapper" standpoint instead of "I'm affiliate wanting the list" I was more-so asking if scraping that would be useful to anyone.. That way if I do it, would someone wanted to do something like this for example..

    Again, great posts, I learned something new! :)