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Selling Stuff in Abandoned Parking Lot = Legal?

Discussion in 'Offline Marketing' started by BluRoze, Apr 27, 2012.

  1. BluRoze

    BluRoze Registered Member

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    Hey guys & gals. This forum is filled with creative business minds, so I thought I'd ask my question here :D

    I found out a way to get really inexpensive, good quality jewelry and would like to start selling it at a local flea market. Flea market is over 1 hour away from my home, so a little inconvenient.

    5 minutes from my house, there's an abandonded shopping center on a really busy street corner. I mean, really busy! It's the absolutely perfect place for me to set up a weekend jewelry err... "store"... or I guess I should say "yard sale". But I can't have the yard sale in my actual yard.

    It's on the main road, which recieves a huge amount of traffic. Unfortunately, some of that traffic is the local police :eek:

    I kinda don't want a citation or anything for selling stuff without permission in an abandoned parking lot, but I bet I can sell out of my inventory in one weekend there. Do you guys think I should chance it? Or should I try to figure out where I can get permission to do that? I have no idea where to get permission... though I guess city hall might be a good place... but I don't have the money for a permit...
    Sorry about the rambling. Any help will be appreciated :)
     
  2. hillsb

    hillsb Registered Member

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    Some guy around here does the same thing except he sells produce. He makes a freaking killing doing it to,and the police have told him to leave a few times but he keeps coming back. lol

    Forgot to mention I have not seen him in a while. Either he is in the caymans will all that money he was making, or jail.
     
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  3. gritts

    gritts Junior Member

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    The city may at least be able to tell you who the person in charge of that property is and then it'd be up to you to contact them to get permission to do things legitimately. They may be willing to give you a cheap price as well as if I owned that parking lot, I'd rather get some revenue than nothing as I imagine they're paying taxes on it so they do want to recover some of that loss.

    Alternatively, you could see if there's another venue with extra space that might be willing to cut you a deal.
     
  4. stratzvyda

    stratzvyda Newbie

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    Unfortunately it's technically illegal, but so long as it's not on someone else's property they'll most likely ignore you, so hopefully the shopping center abuts the corner. If an officer does come just be polite and friendly and "ignorant" of the illegality. On the off chance they make you go off, just go with it, you won't get a citation so long as you comply, and you lose nothing by trying.
     
  5. Dan Free

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    A good indication of success would be the presence of automobiles for sale parked on the lot. Currently, most municipalities have limited funding and have cut back on code enforcement which is good in your case. To be legit, I could see the possibility of permits, licenses, sales tax if they would allow what you are doing. But, you can do anything you want as long as you don't get caught. Getting caught most of the time is having someone complain to the proper person. The complainer could be a customer, neighbor, competitor or someone who got up on the wrong side of the bed.
     
  6. flexpaydude

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    Most centers these days at least have a commercial real estate broker sign out front indicating the property is available for sale or lease.

    If not, you may be able to find the owner's information (at least the name) by looking up your county's appraisal district website, where you can search for the property by the address. Contact the owner via that info (though often times commercial properties list owner as XYZ Holdings, etc., so it may be hard to find contact info).

    You could also contact a local real estate broker and ask for their help in locating the owner and proposing a lease arrangement.

    Or better yet...

    Just go do it! It's easier sometimes to ask for foregiveness than it is to ask for permission. If the cops bug you, just say sorry you didn't know and move on.

    Or...

    Create a fake rental agreement that indicates that you lease the space each weekend. If anyone gives you grief, tell them you pay to be there and have a rental agreement to that effect. I wouldn't necessarily show it to the cops though, unless you have whopper nads.
     
  7. oxonbeef

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    Set up and sell. if anyone says anything plead ignorance.
     
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  8. Nick1

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    That sounds really ghetto but good luck with your endaevor.You seem to have all to gain and nothing to lose.
     
  9. brwipens

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    Find out what the penalties are for "solicitation without a permit" and blah blah blah. Know what is the WORST that could happen to you and then decide whether to do it or not. While it's likely the 5-0 would only tell you to take a hike, it would be nice to know if the citation is $50 or $500 or worse.

    If you can sell a load of cheap jewelry out of the trunk of ur car in an abandoned parking lot.....you might want to start selling yachts or something else that pays a lot better because you're obviously a gifted salesman :) Oh yeah, make sure you ain't got nothing in the trunk or anywhere in your car that the cops might find very interesting and no expired plates, license, etc.

    If u go the flea market route, a lot of them where I live(Atlanta) like to supplement their incomes by offering a broader product selection, like weed, crack and meth :)
     
  10. Dollwin

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    Maybe try selling that stuff, if you get caught, plead ignorance and walk away. Use profits to go legit.
     
  11. donttazemebro

    donttazemebro Newbie

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    Interestin idea! Dodgy jewellery sounds iffy though...
     
  12. BluRoze

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    Thanks for the info, guys & gals. Lovely help, as always :) I'm looking into more legal choices since I've totally chickened out with this thing. I'm thinking of maybe partnering with a local business owner or some crap like that.
     
  13. Dollwin

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    Don't forget ebay / e-commerce sites. You can simplify this method a lot if you can get traffic to sites or just make a good page for ebay.
     
  14. SethTurin

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    Might be worth finding a partner who can sell at the local flea market for you in exchange for an hourly wage.
    You'd have to go the first time to make sure the sales will be worth it, and make sure the person knows what they're doing. But if you were in my town, I could hook you up with 3 locations and at least 5 people interested in doing this, so it shouldn't be hard.
    Imagine that, no work on your part at all and a tidy profit from the sales...