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Selling Electronic Cigarettes?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by MarketerX, May 15, 2010.

  1. MarketerX

    MarketerX Regular Member

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    Hi all,just popping in to ask a quick question for anyone who has ever sold electronic cigs. I want to get into this niche, I would like to know what is the pay per sale, and who is the best affiliate for these things, that pays on time and preferrably can do direct deposit or paypal payments rather than checks.

    Also, are these things hot still as of 2010?

    Thanks!
     
  2. Spaceman

    Spaceman Regular Member

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    Youre best off sourcing them in china and selling them yourself for a bigger %.
    I was thinking of these and got a few domains - but then looked at the keyword demand and found it to be a bit on the low side for my liking. May become more popular down the line tho.
    Spaceman
     
  3. xfactornos

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    Its still fairly new, I have only heard like 4 advertisements for it on the radio and never seen it online or on tv. If you have the extra time you should def check it out and be the first one to take over google for the search term :).
     
  4. 420money

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    They are fucking hard to sell. IME.
     
  5. dogmann11

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    I have tried selling Electronic Cigarettes through a link wheel consisting of free web 2.0 properties, i.e. Squidoo, Weebly, Blogger, etc. Even though I spent a lot of time creating backlinks I got little traffic. It's very hard to rank. the ratio of searched for keywords/competition is too low, (for me). Much competition it seems.

    I have used paid advertising as well. I got 12 sign-ups to the aff. program under me but none have sold anything.

    I have sent over 2,000 targeted hits to my aff link with zero conversions.

    If people are selling ecigs then more power to them. Somebody is making money but it sure ain't me.

    If I had done better keyword research I would have saved myself a lot of work.
     
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    poodeedy Registered Member

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    Been selling them for over a year. Made over $2000 or so between 2 different products. Average around $16 per sale, with residuals as well.
     
  7. mymomatemyhomework

    mymomatemyhomework Registered Member

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    Yes they do still sell. More people are aware of them and that is a good thing.
     
  8. MarketerX

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    I will start a campaign and see what happens. Getting to the traffic is no problem, its if they are interested and willing to pull out that credit card for me that is the question. Wish there was some sort of "Free Trial" type deal for these things.
     
  9. Rajthepositivelife

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    I saw its ad online but m not sure how many do actually buy it....

    but yeah, I think the profit margin would be high because the selling price of the pack is more than 100 $ per kit
     
  10. WizGizmo

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    I used to be an affiliate for NJoy and Greensmoke. The main problem I found was that when people wanted refill tubes, batteries, etc, they had to wait for the shipment. And as you know, this is an "I-Want-It-And-I Want-It-Now" world we live in. People don't like waiting. The only solution is to buy a certain amount of stock and sell locally. Then you can quicly fulfill their need for accessories.

    Cheers! - "Wiz"
     
  11. MarketerX

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    I know they are gaining popularity as more people learn what an E-Cig actually is, because I have talked to a few of my real life friends that claim they've tried them and liked them,good alternative to cigs they said (and a million times healthier, main selling point obv.)

    For those that don't know, these e-cigs look like normal cigarettes but they are actually tiny vaporizers, they come with vials of pure nicotine, so basically you smoke the thing and you are getting your nicotine fix without the carcinogens/yellow teeth/ect associated with burnt tobacco. It really is kind of a high tech cigarette. People buy the kits and then purchase refills of the nicotine vials.

    I think if more news organizations started running stories on these things they could really take off, it seems they are kinda being "slept on" so to speak.
     
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  12. MarketerX

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    Thanks for the post wiz, I was gonna say I am pretty sure the majority of these things are sold in local smoke shops, but I think a campaign ran on some social media sites might be profitable.
     
  13. BassTrackerBoats

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    There is a indoor mall local to me that has a kiosk selling them. I have no idea if they are successful but the sales people are no where near aggressive enough in my opinion.

    Nice looking display and I walk by it with just the sales person there and never have they said, "Sir, do you smoke?".

    Hell, if I had that kiosk, I'd be banging on everyone and their brother that walked by.
     
  14. MarketerX

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    But why limit yourself to a kiosk in a mall when we got the internet, right?:)
     
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    Actually there are several opt-ins for free trials with recurring billing. Goofle it.

     
  16. ShiftySituation

    ShiftySituation Power Member

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    I was checking out some China wholesalers about 18 months ago. I ordered a few just to try them out and they were pretty much garbage. They half ass worked, if they worked at all. I was going to purchase a few grand worth and then resell them locally to convenient stores, personal customers, ect but the product wasn't up to par. If you spend a ton then I'd imagine that they would work a lot better but I was looking to charge 20 dollars for the starter and then 25 cents per refill.

    There was a big stink with them and our government. Greensmoke got sued because they advertised, "no carcinogens" but after testing, turns out that is are quite a few cancer causing substances in them. Our government was also seizing shipments from overseas manufactures that were shipping into the US.

    I've done my research and turned my back to it. Maybe later down the road, I might venture into it again but for now, not for me.
     
  17. MarketerX

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    Where did you hear the nicotine cartridges these things use contain carcinogens? Using a good E-Cig, there is no flame used at all, it is vaporized. Nicotine itself doesn't cause cancer right?, nicotine causes addiction no doubt, but its the other stuff in the plant material that when burned causes cancer. With these, you are inhaling pure nicotine vapor, not smoke.

    There is a difference. Not trying to argue just curious if its true. These things are supposed to be a safe alternative and a way for people to quit smoking actual cigs.
     
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  18. mymomatemyhomework

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    The re-bill offers really need to be tested. There use to be one or two that did well for me but so far the ones I am running are crap. Would be nice to find one that converted ok since I have a good amount of traffic in this niche.
     
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    One carcinogen was a chemical that is also used in anti-freeze. I don't remember the name but it was all over the news.

    Just found http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm173222.htm which says,

    The following paragraph goes over the seizing of shipments.