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Selling \ Buying Fan pages on PAYPAL - VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW - SCAMMERS WILL HATE ME

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  1. Facebook Solutions

    Facebook Solutions Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Hello,
    Here I am again awake at crazy hours (didnt sleep) its 10:21AM and reading a bit on BHW as always.
    So I have to say first of all that i am sorry for the leak writing, I AM REALY TIRED.
    Anyway I wanted to tell you about a small story here, that probally all scammers are going to hate me from now.
    People for some reason, are very sure that its "illegal" to buy fan pages on PAYPAL and always try to "hide" the fact it is a fan page. I got a newsflash for you ... its not Illegal, but it is un-covered.
    What I mean is that if you are selling now a fan page on paypal, if you come into a dispute and you will know what to say you will always win.
    So, how do I know that ? personal experience.
    I sold some pages to a guy, as I am not a scammer he sent the money and got admin rights on the pages. After couple of days, he decided to open a dispute over "items not delivered". This dispute limited my account for more then 2 monthes (we are talking big bucks here.. 15,000$ dispute) and I saw my self as dead, because as wel all know .... "its illegal to sell fan pages on facebook" but that is not true .
    First of all I will start by saying, I WON THE DISPUTE.
    Now you ask, how did I do that ?

    1. When he sent the money I asked him to send it as "Service \ item"
    2. When paypal contacted me I immediatly suggested to show them all proofs (screenshots, texts, emails, etc..) and of course they said they dont want to see it, as anything that is written \ shown out side of paypal doesnt really count.
    3. I immediatly threatend that I am going to involve the police + a lawyer.
    4. I demanded to speak to a supervisor, and of course the answer I got is: "The supervisors do not take phone calls" - but belive me, if you nagg enough you will speak to them how many times you want.
    5. Paypal asked the dispute opener to proof that he DID NOT get the items AND to show the tracking number (as he must claim its a real item and not virtual, as paypal DO NOT COVER virtual items)
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    Of course he could not show a tracking number, as I claimed the item was virtual (I actually said: i provided some pages, programming service and design) and as he could not provide any evidence that it was a physical item, I won the dispute.

    So there you have it, if you pay for virtual goods on paypal - YOU ARE NOT COVERED BY THE "INSURANCE" - meaning, you can easily be scammed.

    Another point is that you always remmber - EVEN IF YOU OPENED A DISPUTE, ITS NOT ENOUGH. YOU NEED TO ESCALATE IT !

    Never send items as "personal" - does not matter if its a gift, payment owed or what ever.


    That's it folks ! I hope now you know "your rights" when it comes to paypal, and I hope these scammers have it harder now to scam others for fan pages etc .

    By the way, a very "popular" way of scamming people when being asked if they own the page and being asked to post some comment is:
    1. Find the page
    2. Talk to the owner that wants to sell it
    3. Talk to the victim
    4. Ask the owner to post a comment to prove its his
    5. Ask the victim which comment to post
    6. Tell the owner the comment to post
    7. Show the victim that you own the page.

    I need just to calrify one thing here, I never scammed people for money (only cpa ..) and I will never do that, all these "systems" \ "methods" are unfortunally scams that scammers did on me, and I am here to pass the information, so other people dont get scammed as well.

    Any questions - would love to answer - PLEASE ASK HERE and not pm so others can have this information as well.
     
  2. bennyboyccl

    bennyboyccl Junior Member

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    haha its true, i found this out from personal experience also, i have sold ebooks and then people try to dispute it. the seller always wins on virtual items
     
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  3. rohit00033

    rohit00033 Regular Member

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    Hey I sold like 40 Youtube accounts to a guy and then he disputed for it but paypal favoured that case in buyers favour without evn asking me for proof, I sent them a mail stating that I have all the screenshots and emails, Bu tthey didnt ask me for anything and the buyer won....:(:(:(
     
  4. Facebook Solutions

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    you should been contacted them, not them you.
     
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    Fun to see so many views in 2 replays :)
     
  6. ohioblue8

    ohioblue8 Newbie

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    I do have a question, since you seem reputable, Do you have any other pages?
     
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    Yes thats the problem with PayPal it does not cover virtual items.
     
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