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Sell more by offering rebates...

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by filmy, Jun 28, 2008.

  1. filmy

    filmy Junior Member

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    This is my first money-making share...

    For what it's worth, I do VERY WELL with this method but it's not something that you can do overnight and it's not completely BH.

    You've seen all the ClickBank and to a lesser degree, PayDotCom super affiliates doing the DUELING BONUSES thing i.e., buy such and such product from ME and you get all these extra bonuses...

    Well in case you're wondering, that also works quite well but it's just a little too much work for me anymore.

    What I've been doing for over a year now is to offer anywhere from a 10% to 50% REBATE to those prospects that purchase such and such product via my affiliate link.

    Now before you start thinking what a waste of time, let me explain a little more...

    I just set up simple WordPress blogs in good niches. I stay aways from Internet Marketing because it's simply too TIME DEPENDENT i.e., what works today (if it even DOES work today) probably AIN'T gonna work tomorrow.

    I stick with weight loss, health, body building, etc... Products that stand the test of time MOST OF THE TIME... LOL.

    On your WordPress blog, you create a page (not a post) called REBATES. It is on this page that you spell out your REBATE disclaimer. I'm not going to give you mine but I will give you an overview...

    We already know that ClickBank makes its vendors state that they must allow a 100% money back guarantee. PayDotCom is different... There is no requirement that I know of however, many vendors do in fact offer guarantees.

    The trick is to keep track of the vendor's guarantee... This way, you do not have to pay out a rebate IMMEDIATELY as long as the vendor you're selling for offers a money-back guarantee.

    For example, if you're selling for a ClickBank vendor as an affiliate, you explain on the rebate page that the customer does not get their rebate until AFTER the guarantee date has expired. This keeps YOU, the affiliate from having to pay immediately and protects you from the all too common ClickBank refund. In other words, as long as the buyer doesn't obtain a refund, you give them their rebate. You also give them a DEADLINE. Something like 7 days to request the rebate. You also REQUIRE them to submit all the sales information along with their request for the rebate.

    -Date of purchase
    -Name purchase was made in
    -eMail address purchase was made from
    -Name of product
    -Cost of product
    -Rebate percentage
    -ClickBank receipt number

    The trick HERE is to not make this too easy for the customer... i.e., don't just ask them for their ClickBank receipt number... The more information you require from them, the more apt that customer is to just FUGHEDABOUDIT and say fuck the rebate.

    Which is what you want... LOL.

    I should add that on some of the blogs I do this on, I've also asked for addresses and telephone numbers and sure enough, these customers seem to ask for less rebates so I will very likely update all my blogs to ask for this information as well.

    Okay... How do you pay your rebates? Hey, that's up to you... What I've found is paying them their rebate through PayPal works best however, I am just starting to use AlertPay to see if customers are still willing to purchase through my affiliate link...

    So far so good...

    And of course if those customers do NOT have a PayPal or AlertPay account, you will want to provide your referral link on your Rebate page so they can obtain one fairly easy. LOL.

    Last but not least is your article or post about the product...

    The post must have some personality. It can't simply be a dull PLR article but you can easily spruce up a PLR article so that you get your visitor to purchase. I even go so far as to create a page on each blog that discusses how much safer credit card purchases are over the net than they are at your local restaurant. The link to this page is included in every post and seems to help quite a bit in overall purchases.

    In fact, you let your visitor know right up front that the only way they can get the rebate is to click on YOUR LINK and follow through with the sale and then wait for the guarantee to expire before they can request the rebate. You further explain that this is for your protection so they can't buy the product, obtain the rebate, and then get a refund. You also let them know that if they DO IN FACT obtain a refund, they do not qualify for the rebate.

    In other words, you spell this all out to your prospects... My experience is that they truly appreciate the honesty of how all this works because most do not know how affiliate programs do work.

    The pièce de résistance...

    Less than a third of my customers ever actually request a rebate... LOL. A small percentage request a rebate after the 7 days and I promptly send them back a form email explaining that they are too late and included is a link to the rebate page that explains the terms of the rebate.

    I know I've painted some broad strokes here but this method does work and can increase affiliate sales if utilized properly. Testing is paramount but once a model starts working, multiply your efforts...

    Include a subscription/autoresponder to your blog that signs up your visitors to your "newsletter" in which you will offer rebates on other popular products... LOL.

    I'm sure there are many other members here that can read between the lines and utilize some or all of this information to tweak something they already have set up and that is also my intention for sharing this.

    So please... Let's open this up for a little brainstorming...

    filmy
     
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  2. liamtohd

    liamtohd Registered Member

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    Another great share filmy. I do a bit of this as well. It takes some time to implement, but it does work.

    Liam
     
  3. hotstox

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    interesting concept - are there any rules against offering rebates for most networks like this?
     
  4. wealthy199

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    Yeah unfortunately most networks don't allow its affiliates to give rebates, however you can generally get away with it just as long as you hide/change the referer so they can't find out that you actually are.
     
  5. hotstox

    hotstox Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    right but I can easily see some pissed off end users contacting the network because of the whole dicking them around with the rebate thing. guessing the best move would be cloak your link, have a nice run around process in place that keeps them busy for awhile, and alternate domains/landing pages?
     
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    You need to mention your account as incentivized on ebay, pepperjam etc.
     
  7. Ramage

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    Yeah I was thinking about using this method with aWeber as they pay you as long as the person you referred continues their subscription. Is this allowed?
     
  8. crsk8andsno56

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    This is basically incentivised sites with a twist :)

    Thats why you have to as wealthy said cloak or change your referrer

    Also how are you driving traffic to these blogs?

    I guess for small CB products there wont be very much info to compete against but people ussually dont search for *product title rebate*
     
  9. timothywcrane

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    I am using a twist on this method, One that actually WORKS with IM products. I offer a $5,000 ClickBank Rebate Card with My IM Training Program that costs $279.00. Most People Will NEVER Buy That many products (Where my commission=5k), but I can afford to give them a discount equal to 100% of my commission because they have already sent $300 directly to my PP account.

    So my self owned direct sales campaign is in fact incentivized by Clickbank discounts.

    If you are in the health and fitness niche, you can always create a "Nationwide Fitness Discount Membership Site" and give all of the forum members the right to strip you of your commission on all sales made through your listed links. It would be like turning Clickbank into those coupon books that hotel discount advertisers sell via direct mail, only in a digital membership form.

    You could pretty much tailor this to any network or niche. The free trial genre has been exploited by "free Xbox" sites using this psychology for years.

    This is also a great incentive for your New(bie) Publishers if you run your own ClickBank Product, so that they do not have to use their own link and "get banned..LOL". You tell them to use the special (subid) Publishers link, and get it legally discounted. Just make them complete some sort of automated publisher training program or some crap to be eligible.
     
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  10. worlddating

    worlddating Regular Member Premium Member

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    you can also do a contest and the winner gets ------ might work, it did for me
     
  11. timothywcrane

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    This is on topic, I promise.

    I was experimenting at home on how to sell physical homemade food products online.

    "I make these big ass ice cream sandwiches with a 9' deep pan brownie on each end and a gallon of ice cream in the middle.. good stuff."

    I found that I could actually sell the products online if I followed All of the FDA shipping and regs. I was surprised to find that Ebay was actually a candidate (technically) and I also found a site called Foodzie that looked promising. The problem with Foodzie was that They also required an FDA approved facility and 1 million dollars in liability insurance before you could sell on their site.

    Ebay really only tells you that you have to label and ship everything correctly, so in theory it is allowed.

    I decided to do a few searches on Ebay for Ice Cream Sandwiches, Birthday Cakes etc.. and didn't seem to find a damn thing.. except:

    One coupon book for a higher end, name brand ice cream treat at a discount of about 1/2.

    Coupons, but no physical products.. I wonder why?

    I decided that before I try to sell the food directly from Ebay, as it seems that there HAS TO BE A REASON nobody else is doing it to any degree that I could search out, and the fact, that EBAY AUCTION FEE Reduction could be greatly increased if I was only offering a % of my products worth, say a $10 coupon, discounted by hella by starting it off at .99.

    Hell, anyone that even checks out the auction will come to the website, and as it is my own business, I can create and print out $10 coupon books all day long, or simply one every once in a while, if I make a tiny Ebay Profit of a few cents, and sell a product that is profitable after coupon discount at any rate.

    Oh, did I mention I ship in dry ice, which ain't cheap, so removing that from the bottom line on an Ebay item is worth its weight in Gold anyway.

    To make a long story short, discount ads and rebates are THE CHOICE for off line products, somewhere in the supply chain. I saw this thread, so it set me thinking..

    Giving away your commission like I do in the IM genre is peachy, but like my ice cream sandwiches, if the sale IS your profit, you can't just give it all away (you don't want 100% discount).

    Also, unlike the Ice Cream biz, we don't own CB, or control our commish before it hits payday, so there is always a "fear of the man" (referrer cloaking, slicing, magic numbers, etc. )

    Most all of that could be alleviated if you could find a way to incorporate your partially discounted through rebate CB products into an offline campaign.

    "LOOSE MORE WEIGHT YOU FAT BITCH" laundry room fliers or something along that line.

    Make a flier for a weight loss pill affiliate and print out a few hundred, and have your friend at the grocery store throw it in with all of the rest of the crap like it in the Sunday Paper, but on top.

    For stuff like this I have a great source printer. They specialize in Pizza top fliers.

    You might be able to make a killing with CJ pay Per Call like this.

    And no referrer BS.

    Library magazine racks are a great place to find for such methods, all divided by section.
     
  12. worlddating

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    I think its like everything, when u offer something free, more people come...