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[SEEKING ADVICE] This is my story, how would you proceed?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by royserpa, Apr 5, 2014.

  1. royserpa

    royserpa Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Hey guys,

    I come to you for advice as i know most of you, if not everybody, has a business mind and I would appreciate any advice.

    So, so far I have not had any breakthrough in IM, and no i wont whine about it, but maybe i am just not going in the right direction or what i would really like to do.

    Basically, in very short words, i want to do this:

    1) Get money
    2) Create a prototype of my idea (I can say, a really BIG idea)
    3) Get me or investors and make it big time and start selling the service worldwide.
    4) Change what everyone thinks is impossible at the moment. (I wont get in detail about this,but i know it is true)
    5) Get rich and go with all of my other projects i have in mind but cant get started as I need money.

    Now, maybe what I am doing wrong is getting the money myself in #1, could it be?

    Guys, I am open to all advice, critique, flame and whatever you would like to comment.

    I would really appreciate anyone's advice on how i should proceed as it is very frustrating that i cant even make it on step #1.

    Thanks guys! :eek:
     
  2. lazyegg

    lazyegg Newbie

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    Try to get some support from family or friends first, that is most people start up with
     
  3. jimmylegs

    jimmylegs Senior Member

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    You couldn't be more wrong. Rule #1 never bother your friends or family.
     
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  4. ORM

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    Hi Roy, I got a question for You: Are you doing IM full time or just on the side... ?
     
  5. oOULTiMATE KhANOo

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    Three mega formulas you need which are essential is "Determination", "Conviction" & "Resilience" to make it in the IM world or any other self starting business or get rich scheme.. without the above you will just crash and burn, good luck.
     
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  6. pxoxrxn

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    Hey mate, I'm going to be blunt because that's how I am. My intention is not to offend, its just how I offer advice.

    Firstly, I think working for money is a problem. I know allot of people see money as a motivational tool but it's not. History will tell us that motivation stems from the ability to create and as humans, we love being creative, it's what makes us great. Stop putting money in front of creativity as a motivational tool.

    Think about how a large business would conduct operations. They wouldn't sit down and dabble in a bit of work here and there. They would sit down with all stakeholders and come up with a rock solid plan that includes details of what exactly everybody is going to be doing. You should do the same. Sit down with a pen and paper and write down exactly what your goal is in each step and how you are going to achieve a successful outcome in that step.

    I often have the same problem as you, seeing a lack of money as an obstacle and this is one of the biggest things I am trying to change in my life. My whole life I have seen money as a precious commodity that is hard to get and easy to lose. In reality, it's some dumb fucking concept we made up and were trained to follow, like a bunch of monkeys at a Zoo. Money is hard to get, but not impossible. Like I said before, a detailed plan with every aspect is your best bet and how you're going to get start up money should be in that plan.

    Good luck buddy.
     
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  7. royserpa

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    Well, this semester (until August 2014), I am doing 100% IM though things don't go my way I will be still here around.

    100% agree with you pal. Seriously, if I didn't have any of those I wouldn't be here or even trying to do what I am trying to do :)

    I totally agree with you pal.

    I don't see money as a motivation as you say. I see money as a "transmutable" resource we can exchange for whatever we need or want. You see, the main problem with my plan is that I can't even start making it happen because I don't have the money needed for the equipment and resources I would be spending to make my projects a reality.

    It is very easy to understand my situation:

    Had I had money, I would be buying all the resources and equipment I need to make my projects a reality.
    And as I have no money, I can't even start making a basic representation or prototype of what I would like to do.

    You see, I've been on IM for 1+ years and my main and only motivation is to get money to build these projects I yearn to make a reality. That's it. I know that if I build and create them, wealth will follow.

    I need around $20k to start developing a pretty basic foundation of what I want to achieve. If I get a job down here in Mexico, it would take me years to get to $20k and that would only be the start, that's why I am really trying to make IM work for me.

    I understand what you say and actually that's exactly my thought. :)

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    Guys, do you think my step #1 in my plan is kinda wrong?

    I mean, getting $20k in IM or in IRL is a lot but, would you do anything different? Any ideas?
     
  8. pxoxrxn

    pxoxrxn Supreme Member

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    If you need $20k start working towards it with a method from BHW. There is a nice one with pinterest and women's cloths that seems to be pretty easy and cheap to setup. In fact, I am setting it up at the moment to have a try.

    Are you from Mexico? I am working on my pinterest project so my girlfriend and I can go to South America at the end of this year. I am praying that I can get the money because I want to go so bad. Unfortunately, we won't get up to Mexico this time but :(
     
  9. prab1996

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    will you check your mails instead of posting these type of threads ?

    +BHW is good for seo advice not for personal future planning.
    Not alot , if you will save some money and work hard then you can easily make that in a year or less from IM.
    you will need to work hard until you will find this in your serpbook.
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    -=-
     
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  10. royserpa

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    Thats why I posted it in the lounge bro :)

    Im just trying to get some advice of some way.

    I could say that but things on IM just dont go my way pal...
     
  11. Vic Sage

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    1) Get money
    - Well, that's what you are working for atm right? There are TONS of methods on BHW, why not pick one and stick to it till you succeed?
    To be honest, making money is now easier than ever. Master GSA, and provide insane services on Fiverr e.g. "I will create 1000 social bookmarks backed by 50k Blog Comments" and boom...you will get tons of orders. Easy $2k+/month. Or just pick up a newly released movie trailer or song and blast the hell out of youtube with tons of videos by MasterVideoBlasterPro...easy $3k+/month.
    Or, find out low competitive terms and rank for 'em with GSA. Easy $2k/month.

    Now, how neat is that? Simple $7k/month with just 3 methods. It's simple but not easy. It's gonna be hard as hell. There's a reason it took me 3 months to make my first $100 and 3 years to make my first $1000 and 4 years to make my first $10000. I am doing IM for 5.5 years starting from the age of 15. Hell, I got myself an internet connection for the soul reason of making money online! My mother had faith on my. It was hard to pay the internet bills but I did make it at last. Instead of asking questions I made good use of the "Search" button of BHW. Downloaded tons of WSO's. Researched and worked my way upto the top with very little time I had after school and homework. I was a skinny guy who barely could keep his eyes open after 10pm.

    2) Create a prototype of my idea (I can say, a really BIG idea)
    - Use half of the money that you earned by working 3-4 months on the things I mentioned in #1. Get some more keywords to rank for and go all out. Buy blog network links, 301 aged domains and what not to rank for 'em. Adding another $2k+ to your earnings. Meanwhile, setup a site for this project. Hire 1 or 2 VA"s for additional work for the BIG project.
    After another 6 months, go mad on the BIG project. Now you have enough money to spend. Hire more VA's, rank for more keywords, optimize conversions by split testing. Continuously grow your empire.

    3) Get me or investors and make it big time and start selling the service worldwide.
    - Investors are a waste of time. Personally, I don't like to answer to anyone for my online ventures. Investors will keep pinging you for updates. If things go wrong, they will insist that you return their money. F*c* it. DIY. Follow things mentioned in #2. Get more GEO targeted domains with your brand name and reach out more people.

    4) Change what everyone thinks is impossible at the moment. (I wont get in detail about this,but i know it is true)
    - Follow #1, #2, #3 and you will.

    5) Get rich and go with all of my other projects i have in mind but cant get started as I need money.
    - That comes after 1.5 years to 2 years of hard work. Completely depends on how much hard work you put into it.

    The reason I wrote this big a$$ post is you ask almost the same questions in every thread. You gotta stop spending time on BHW and spend more time on your work. Here's an awesome tool for Firefox to do so -
    https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/leechblock/

    Or just ask for a temp. ban from a mod.

    Do whatever it takes to get what you want.

    Recommended Resources -
    Code:
    http://boldanddetermined.com/2013/01/28/the-21-rules-of-the-rich-and-how-you-can-emulate-them/
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    http://foreverjobless.com/the-definitive-guide-to-accomplishing-your-goals/
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    http://foreverjobless.com/ev-millionaires-math/
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    http://www.gll-getalife.com/get-success/entry/things-you-need-to-do-in-2014-2
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-jwWYX7Jlo
    Code:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkziAM_ZyDM
     
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  12. IamNRE

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    What are your skills?

    If you don't have any, find a need/gap in the market - learn the skills you need to fill that need/market gap then open up a service or sell a product.

    If you can't do that then get a job and save up the money you need to make your working prototype... hint alibaba.com

    Investors invest in people (teams).... so you as 1 person going to them with no track record of having done anything is a big risk for them, but if you have made X product in the past and you have put together a good team of people with good track records as well - now you are not such a big risk and they'd consider investing in ya.

    Either way, your first job is to get some capital & do a prototype ya self OR get some experience from taking action - without that investors will never even give you the time of day.
     
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    Hey Royserpa,

    I don't want to insult you at all, but in my opinion you're just asking too much instead of doing. Someone once said something like "I don't know how to succeed, but the way to don't succeed is to ask others."

    What I mean is that you should take a look how other people on BHW makes money and simply follow their methods, there are many great journals. If they can, you can too. You have a computer, an internet connection, so chose a single method and stick with it as long until you make a steady $100 a day income.

    Again, I don't mean it in any wrong way. I didn't succeed too and have a similar plan like you do. I have some freelancer jobs to make money in order to invest them into my own ideas. So far I burned out everything I earned, but it's a part of the game I guess.

    Regarding to the investors - try to avoid them as much as possible. These money are not free, getting an investment means getting a boss (or bosses) that will want to get their investment as quickly back as possible and will push you pretty seriously.

    My advice - get a part-time job/chose a method available here on BHW, make some cash, invest in into your ideas.

    Good luck!
     
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    i don't know what your problem is prabh1996, but u always reply negatively on every single thread like this. he posted it in the lounge section, so I guess he can post whatever he wants whether it is SEO related or not. Maybe your age is the reason behind all these things, but you should try to be nicer. :)

    i dont want to sound mean, but that's just my 2 cents!
     
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    that's the worse advice, don't follow it. Because once you fail, they will be looking for their money back or you will ruin all the relationships you have with them. Better to find angel investors or venture capitalists to invest in your company first.
     
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  17. lalit_burma

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    Do you know how much money do you need ?

    Do you have fully detailed plan ?
     
  18. prab1996

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    truth is bitter, any way just to tell you i am in jv with him and he is good guy. but i not like his habit of making this type of threads.
    i am not alone, every one asked him to work hard.

    just my 10 dollars.
    -=-
     
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  19. royserpa

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    @lalit: Yes I have a plan. It would cost around $20k or so to get tests started. Problem is, that i cant even get started as i dont have money...

    @prab: kinda true, but i am just asking for advice man. I dont see how this is bad in anyway...
     
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