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Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by moonlighsunligh, Nov 5, 2014.

  1. moonlighsunligh

    moonlighsunligh Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Hi,

    (NOTE: I revealed this domain name on purpose in order to learn something from experienced members.)

    Please let me know if podangoproductions.com is a good domain for a PBN.

    Backlinks data- http://siteexplorer.info/domain/podangoproductions.com

    My opinion: I wouldn't use because it has too much exact anchors and pretty much no urls anchors.
     
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    I don't know why are people obsessed with exact anchor...it is the name of the company for Christs sake

    P.S. Totally clean domain. Not sure about the power of it, but it has few good links
     
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  3. marcothebest91

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    I gave the domain a quick look, and its backlinks seem clean, I'd suggest you not to worry too much about anchors as long as the backlinks are clean.
    The domain doesn't have many backlinks, but I found one from mashable (mashable.com/2008/10/17/podango-productions) and a press release from PRWeb (prweb.com/releases/2007/4/prweb521068.htm).
    Not bad.
     
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    This. 100%.

    So, if Google.com dropped and you could buy it you would shy away because too many "Google" anchors? haha

    Real SEO = a shit ton of brand name anchors.

    Disclaimer: After someone messaged me asking why the domain is good I feel the need to say that I did not look a it. (read below and you will see it is pure shit) - simply making a point that exact spam anchor and exact brand name are two entirely different things. If a site has 80% "cheap gucci bags" anchor then yes, pure shit. If a site has 95% "brand name" it is a different story. Just requires some common sense...
     
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    A Quick browse on the wayback will show you this is a piece of crap spin off from a piece of crap podcasting network thats been dropped a few times and lying dormant for years. Would'nt be for me.
     
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    OMG haven't checked history before but you're right. It was some kind of directory lats time it was alive?! But still, looks like all the links poitning to it are real, no spam (according to siteexplorer.info). New owner should check out if there is some message from Google, if there is no message I think he/she can try to do something with it.
     
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    Exactly, why are you picking such crappy domains with TF = 0 and CF/TF ratio = 0, only because they have one link from PRWeb or Forbes?
    Anyone can get a PR and receive a backlink from media or newspaper.

    Domain
    www.podangoproductions.com
    PA DA PR DL BL MR CF TF CF/TF
    28 15 N/A 18 15 2.89 15 0 0

    Just one look in the last instance of archive * org and you see that that domain was used as link farm for MILLIONS of all kind of crap articles and thus is useless.
    20 seconds job...

    Cheers and good luck!
    Dan
     
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    That was obviously a home page of some kind of directory or "eCommerce"site. Links are pointing to inner pages of the domain. Not saying that it was a great site
     
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    What do you mean by you haven't checked history before?
     
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    You are right SKS, but even if you go to the back links source, like PRWeb, their back link is pointing back to homepage and in my opinion it's the homepage you build a new website on and anyway that domain I would even not giveaway to customer for free ...:cool:

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    Are you sure it is ok to use just brand name more than 50%?

    If so then EMD and PBN domain could use their brand name which is pretty much equal to the keyword they are targeting more than 50%. Then this kind of domain are the best, aren't they?
     
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    Why do you think that links from Forbes/Mashable can be gotten easily? I think they are very valuable but I didn't have any practical expirence - i just few days ago bought the first domain for my PBN that had a few link from Forbes and Venturebeat.

    What are the main metric you consider before buying a domain? TF and CF?

    This one as you have seen isn't bad in my opinion if we just consider DA and PA



     
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    I am not sure why but domain tools show it is only dropped once?
    Is there any better tool for checking how many time doman dropped better than whois.domaintools.com?
     
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    Looks fine to me, anchors can always be diluted depending upon how you would like to use your domains.
     
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    Whois.domaintools is solid.

    I think the "drop" referred to is in the archive is shows multilple different holding pages from different registrars at different periods, as well as being a link farm, and the podcast site.
     
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    Hi mate

    Yeah the back link Profile is not bad...But the PR, TF and CF is 0, also that site is not indexed in G....so this is not a Best one for PBN :(
     
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    No the drop means deleted.
     
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    Et is expired domain.expired a long time ago. This is why it doesn't have any pr nor it is indexed.
     
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    Look, if you have a website like you have picked, which was initially a great business (archive), you make a Press Release and buy for CASH $$$ a Press Release for example at PRWeb, they distribute your Press Release to newspapers and media sites like Forbes and many others with great authority (this is one of SEO strategies and everyone can buy this kind of PR and receive authority links from authority media and press sites!).

    Your site now has links from Forbes, BBC and so on and the site has great TF and CF/TF ratio and great backlinks!

    NOW the owner cancelled his business and the domain has dropped and someone catches the domain and builds a link farm on it in order to use it for linking or to redirect it to another site via 301, so the link juice is GONE, thus TF decreases and the domain is useless.

    Still the domain has many backlinks, so PA and DA is quite ok.

    You need not only to look on metrics, but also at backlinks and at the domains history to evaluate the full picture domain authority!!!

    Metrics can be good for the first check and decision if you gonna have a deeper look ("hand check") of the domain.

    And currently, in my opinion, the accuracy of Majestic's Trust Ratio using CF/TF is incredible for the first check.

    Hope it helps
    Dan
     
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    PR is quite a bit more expensive than a 10$ expired domain, but i have not doubt it is worth the investement for the people who know what are doing well.

    I have found quite a bit domains with PA of 25+ and DA 13+ . I hope this is a good metric to begin with because I cannot find any better domains. After that I will check anchor ratio as well as the TF/CF and archive.

    There is an example where TF is zero but domain still should be good (clean blog) - http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo/715234-pbn-domains-tf-0-a.html#post7352499. This was the first site i bought for my PBN. :)