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Secret to Authority Website found!!! I am puzzled and amazed...

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by blue_wings, Apr 25, 2012.

  1. blue_wings

    blue_wings Newbie

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    Hey guys, this is a pretty long post but hope you have the time to read it till the end, and not skip paragraphs.

    FIRST, I need to tell to those who don't know yet that an AUTHORITY website is not necessary a big website. You can get high authority in the eyes of Google even if you have a small 10 or 15 pages website, without a blog associated.

    In February I purchased a domain and started a multilanguage website with tutorials on a slim niche to help boost my company sales...I wanted to attract more customers with it. I didn't do any Blackhat SEO, I barely did some link building, link exchange, directory and ads directory submission. My sole purpose was to get customers...but I was also wanted to rank on a medium competition keyword...as my company is struggling to survive in a top competition keyword.

    After I published around 9 tutorials and around 5 pages (privacy policy included here) I didn't add any more content, I started the Social Media Marketing and sh#t.

    Then in mid March (over a month after I registered my domain) I see my PR rise to 3 and my website ranking #2 on the medium competition keyword. I was like...WTF did I do? No, seriously, what did I do, because I wanted to replicate on other websites also...

    Then I read Google Detonator 2, a book found also thanks to this forum...so search for it around here because I cannot find it anymore...and this is the best book I have read in 2012...and believe me, I have read over 100. After reading it I found that I applied without knowing pretty much the method stated in this book. Again I was WOW!

    So, in principle the book states that Social Media is very powerful these days and teaches you how to implement a good method for link building using Social Media profiles. I said to myself that this was the factor that brought me such a success. So I replicate it with minor improvements on other websites...but unfortunately those websites are not doing so well as my original website...Google Detonator method works, but it's not what I was looking...

    There must be something else!!! But what??? I have started too analyse the backlinks of my original and replicated websites but I couldn't found the answer... Actually I was even more puzzled because I found out that none if the pages with my link had a PR over 2...yet I have PR3.

    HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE? The answer stayed well hidden until now because we never asked: where the original PR comes from? We all know it is transferred from one page to other...but where do PR 10 pages take the PR to transfer to other websites?

    HA HA...the answer must be this: PR is GENERATED by a page, not transferred. It must be generated based on several factors, one of the important ones being the backlinks...

    Now the question is: what are the other factors?
    The original question was still standing without an answer: How I managed to get #2 in Google and with a PR3? What was generating such a page authority on my website and my replicates didn't had it?

    A few days ago I got a client wanting to rank better on several keywords. His website is 4 months old, PR1 and never built any link, any social media profile...NADA!!!
    I have analysed the website, found out some good Google positions for low competition keywords...but NO backlink...nothing.

    So, I had a replica of my method...so I had to find out what this website and my original website have and the other websites I was trying to replicate didn't had...
    Today it HIT ME HARD!!! It's the f**king translation. Both websites are multilanguage...real multilanguage, not using Google translate plugins... So Google must have see and recognize the translated content...and this must give authority to both sites.

    Then I started to look for other company websites that have multilanguage support and guess what: all of them have good rankings or PR even if they have no backlinks.

    OH MAN!!! This is big s**t, I am going to implement it on other websites aswel and come back here with results. The funny thing is that not even a single money site around the world is multilanguage!!!

    What an authority website? Build a multilanguage one, we all know English...use your native language as second language. If you're native language is English...sorry for you...hire someone to translate your content...or try to do it by yourself...

    Did I mention that using automatic Google translations plugins won't work? A Multilanguage website has different links/pages for content in other languages, the content is written by the webmaster, not generated by Google...LOL this is obvious, but I mentioned it for those who thought at this...
     
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  2. orzyman

    orzyman Senior Member

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    google translator doesn't translate all the words anyways so IMO it's pretty much useless anyways
     
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    The OP says No google translation.
     
  4. iantendo

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    wow this is great information! I have a keyword competitor running several localised versions of his site on regional TLDs and I had no idea why the hell he was doing it... now I do!!!

    Quick question though... do you have your translated page on the same host/domain or do you have the translated version of the site as a mirror on a different domain? If the latter then how do you make sure each translated site is an exact (albiet translated) mirror of the main site? Is it a manual process or is there a plugin to do that?
     
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    It's likely you got links from some other sites linking to you. If you have good content and they found you, they may link to you. They may come and go. Your SEO tool may not detect them yet. Remember that Google PR as seen on the toolbar is not real time.

    Anyway, interesting read. People may be able to get links from lower competition countries and channel them to the higher competitive language content. Just want to confirm that you're building a multilanguage site on a domain? Are you using sub-domain (en.example.com) or sub-directory (example.com/en/)?
     
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  6. blue_wings

    blue_wings Newbie

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    I am using Wordpress plus qTranslate on the same domain, the links are set like:
    domain.xx/postname/ for native language and
    domain.xx/en/postname/ for english
    xx is the TLD extension.

    The client site is similar...Wordpress and qTranslate. I am looking now for Joomla + JoomFish websites to confirm my theory.
     
  7. klaotupi

    klaotupi Registered Member

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    How do you translate you post and pages? Do you google translate?
     
  8. nothingnothing

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    Are you sure you read the post??

    OP actually mentioned it clearly it in his post here it is:

     
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    the_demon Jr. Executive VIP

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    OP specifically said he did NOT use Google translate. re-read the thread.
     
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    artizhay BANNED BANNED

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    Smh...
    Do people enjoy making fools of themselves? Some sort of game?
     
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  12. dueces

    dueces Regular Member

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    Translation definitely helps build authority site. Getting it translated can be expensive. Has anyone tried translating the content using an online service and then uploading it rather than using a plugin that does it automatically?
     
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    You know what, this isn't totally insane. How would you structure this? Would each page have options to change language, or do you have multiple versions of the entire site in different sub folders?
     
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  14. zerofoxtrot

    zerofoxtrot Senior Member

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    I will try this out, should the translated pages be indexed too?
     
  15. hhhernan

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    Could use this for a couple clients, anyone have any good ways of getting the pages translated?? Hire someone to do it? A website? haha thanks in advance=]
     
  16. h.udo

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    I accidentally found this little "trick" in 2011.

    I started a blog about a subject that is very dear to me, slapped WPML into it, made my main language English and added translations to Portuguese (my native language), Spanish and French. Basically 4 of the top 8 Internet languages in the world.

    I create the content in Portuguese and use BigG translator to translate to other languages. I then correct the spelling/grammar of the translated articles manually, to my standards.

    From Feb to May 2011 I gained PR4 and 2500 UV and 10000 PV a day. I never did any backlinking, never monetized the site (the subject is a very popular free software and associated culture), never did anything to deserve such attention.
    Since then, this is my most popular website ever, attracting more and more users. I consistently write original content, give users what they want and site is still growing. I'm now looking for related subjects/keywords to help me start monetize the site. I already found a few but I'll never impose ads on my faithful user base. I decided I'll only show ads to visitors from search engines. This may change in the future.

    A few notes:
    - I build sites since 98, mostly forums around the above subject and around my main street job, subjects I know really well.
    - I never ever heard about SEO, or worried about it, before landing on BHW (June 2011). That's how clueless about it I was.
    - I never optimized my sites before reading about it on BHW. Heck, I didn't knew there was such a thing.
    - I think it helps if you really know the subject you're building a site around. BigG can "sniff" that, I think!
    - This isn't a miraculous formula. You really need to work hard and have passion. Work ethics helps a lot too. Don't procrastinate!

    I'm sure the translations really made a difference. I'm replicating the formula with a new site around my day job, with the same 4 languages. I'm using the same model: original content, no backlinking, give users what they are looking for, no imposed sh*t. You know what? It works! After 2 weeks, I can see around 120UV, from around the world. Site only has 8 articles. 8x4 articles, that is.
     
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  17. JACOb5

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    i'm going to give this a go, but first tell me please do you have 2 wordpress installations set up? or does qtranslate make another folder with the other lang content which you then translate?
     
  18. zerofoxtrot

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    I am going to try this real soon, gotta see if I can get some translators, any cheap place to hire 'em?
     
  19. vulzala

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    You can go for cheap or quality translations. I used to be a translator back in the day and used http://www.proz.com for clients. I now use them for my translations. But then, I want my pages to be useful to all the visitors and keep a good bounce rate. Depends on the country of the translator/language. You can get cheaper spanish translators from south america (2 or 3 US cents per word) than spain (6 euro cents per word).
     
  20. h.udo

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    Don't know about qTranslate, but WPML only requires one WP installation and creates all the links automatically. It even translates sidebar widgets, links, and all the stuff.