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Screwed out of $695 by joy4028

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  1. Jabba Du Hut

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    Hello guys,

    I paid Wazed Al Noman (forum name joy4028) the sum of $695 on 09-28-17 to rank my amazon listing in the top ten for a specific keyword. He assured me that he would be able to do it and if not he would refund my money.

    On 10-04-17 I told him that it's been 5 weeks and the listing was still on page 4 (originally on page 5) and that I wanted a refund because he was clearly not able to do what he said he could. His response was "Ok no problem"

    I tried to contact him on 10-05 to see why I hadn't yet received the refund and he never responded to me.

    I then contacted him again on 10-07 telling him that he didn't perform the services I paid him for and that if he didn't issue a refund I would start a shit list thread on here. Again, he is still ignoring me.

    BHW screen name = joy4028

    His skype id = noman4027

    Website = http://www.amazonseoranker.com/

    Below are the screen shots.

    Thank you very much,

    -Chris R
     

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    Shitlist Request Approved

    @joy4028 has been notified he has 48 hours to respond to this post.

    PS. Reminder to all who have current issues, keep it PROFESSIONAL. No name calling or other insults.

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    Shit list rule #4:
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    Any word from him yet?

    -Chris
     
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    Unless @joy4028 responds in here it is not considered a response.

    I'll be banning @joy4028 should we not get a response in here soon.
     
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    Hi,
    I accept that we charge the money for our services advance.
    We achieved near the targeted positions and suddenly the seller has an Seller Center isuee. That's because the rank fall down rapidly. Soon after the the isuee sloved we start working again and this time we didn't approached expected result.
    As we agreed upon we requested to changed the targeted keyword and the buyer didn't.
    He is now asking refund. The refund is under process. We'll make it as soon as possible.
    Thanks
     
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    When can he expect to see that refund?
     
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    This guy is lying through his teeth, I can post our entire chat if needed.

    I did have a quickly resolved issue with Amazon but at no time was he even close to "achieved near the targeted positions". I paid him to rank in the top 10 and the absolute best he had my listing at was the middle of page three (54th position).

    He NEVER requested for me to change the targeted keyword at ANY time. He did however suggest that I do a product giveaway which I told him wasn't in the cards because I had already spent so much on this listing already.

    I've been very patient about this whole thing as I waited almost six weeks before contacting him about a refund. Him ignoring me led to this post.

    -Chris
     
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    Please post it.
     
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    I just tried but the forum is saying that it looks spam like. Any suggestions?

    -Chris
     
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    Send it to my email - [email protected] and I'll post it for you.
     
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    Hi Bass,

    Here is the transcript. The two times my listing was shown I typed "(Hidden)"

    [9/25/2017 12:57:03 AM] WAZED AL NOMAN: Hi Sir, Surely we can rank up. Can check your listing?
    [9/25/2017 2:43:28 PM] Chris R: Hello, thanks for getting back to me.
    [9/25/2017 2:43:54 PM] Chris R: I'd rather talk to you first before I give you my listing.
    [9/25/2017 2:44:24 PM] WAZED AL NOMAN: Ok Sir sure
    [9/25/2017 2:44:44 PM] WAZED AL NOMAN: Ask me what you want to know
    [9/25/2017 2:45:01 PM] Chris R: I'm interested in your services but I'm really worried about getting in trouble with Amazon.
    [9/25/2017 2:45:11 PM] Chris R: Getting our account banned.
    [9/25/2017 2:45:43 PM] Chris R: Or amazon hurting our listing.
    [9/25/2017 2:47:06 PM] WAZED AL NOMAN: No Sir, nothing to worry about, we're using our SEO methods for last 4 years and no one get any trouble. It's because our activities aren't related with your seller center.
    [9/25/2017 2:47:57 PM] WAZED AL NOMAN: It's 100% safe as we use off page SEO to rank up your product
    [9/25/2017 2:48:57 PM] Chris R: I've heard that if amazon sees what is happening they can penalize our listing.
    [9/25/2017 2:49:06 PM] Chris R: Have you ever heard anything like that?
    [9/25/2017 2:51:12 PM] WAZED AL NOMAN: No, honestly we didn't face any problem with our work. It's may happend to you if you do some unfair tricks like making fake purchase, collect fake reviews, seller feedback, or vote up reviews etc...
    [9/25/2017 2:51:39 PM] WAZED AL NOMAN: Those activities seam suspicious to Amazon
    [9/25/2017 2:53:02 PM] Chris R: Okay
    [9/25/2017 2:53:26 PM] Chris R: But I see that you also offer those services on your website.
    [9/25/2017 2:54:47 PM] WAZED AL NOMAN: Yes, we provide those if client allow us and product all genuine info like real customer I'd and payment methods like credit card or debit card
    [9/25/2017 2:55:09 PM] WAZED AL NOMAN: *provide all info
    [9/25/2017 2:55:15 PM] Chris R: Oh okay
    [9/25/2017 2:56:06 PM] WAZED AL NOMAN: I'll update my website but my developer are now busy..
    [9/25/2017 2:56:06 PM] Chris R: I'm just really nervous about this. I'd like to purchase a service like this because we are having a hard time ranking but it's very scary.
    [9/25/2017 2:57:19 PM] WAZED AL NOMAN: I can ensure you that our activities will be 100% safe and Amazon ToS friendly
    [9/25/2017 2:57:20 PM] Chris R: I've also heard of ranking companies lowering rank after ranking so the customer needs to keep paying maintenance fees.
    [9/25/2017 2:59:19 PM] WAZED AL NOMAN: We don't do that, honestly we try to push rank as much as we can. Maintains isn't our main business. If client like to maintain then we do. We usually try avoid maintain job
    [9/25/2017 2:59:54 PM] WAZED AL NOMAN: Coz monthly maintain is one month tension
    [9/25/2017 3:00:03 PM] Chris R: Oh okay
    [9/25/2017 3:00:31 PM] Chris R: And you and your team are successful with the A10 algorithm?
    [9/25/2017 3:01:32 PM] WAZED AL NOMAN: Yes, we're ok with this algorithm but honestly taking little bit more time then yet
    [9/25/2017 3:02:42 PM] Chris R: Is it a lot harder than A9?
    [9/25/2017 3:03:50 PM] WAZED AL NOMAN: Yes, huge. It's now taking more then 2 or 3 time more time and labour to rank a keyword
    [9/25/2017 3:04:53 PM] Chris R: Wow
    [9/25/2017 3:05:12 PM] Chris R: Has your prices gone up because of this?
    [9/25/2017 3:09:40 PM] WAZED AL NOMAN: Yes Sir, yet we ranked a keyword within 1 week and if keyword was harder took maximum 2 weeks
    [9/25/2017 3:15:20 PM] Chris R: Oh okay
    [9/25/2017 3:26:19 PM] WAZED AL NOMAN: Kindly let me know once you decided about purchasing ranking service. Thanks :)
    [9/25/2017 3:58:06 PM] Chris R: Okay I'll keep in touch. Thank you.
    [9/25/2017 11:59:59 PM] *** Show messages from: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 - Wednesday, September 27, 2017 ***
    [9/27/2017 12:34:05 PM] Chris R: Hello
    [9/27/2017 12:34:24 PM] WAZED AL NOMAN: Hi Sir, How are you?
    [9/27/2017 12:34:34 PM] Chris R: I'm good and yourself?
    [9/27/2017 12:34:46 PM] WAZED AL NOMAN: Fine, Thanks
    [9/27/2017 12:35:45 PM] WAZED AL NOMAN: What you've decided about ranking Sir?
    [9/27/2017 12:36:16 PM] Chris R: That's good
    [9/27/2017 12:37:09 PM] Chris R: If we go with the top 10 rank can we pay the difference later if we want to have you rank it higher?
    [9/27/2017 12:38:15 PM] WAZED AL NOMAN: Sure Sir, If you ask us to rank up more, we'll keep continuing work
    [9/27/2017 12:41:38 PM] Chris R: Okay
    [9/27/2017 12:42:01 PM] Chris R: Also, I was talking to someone recently and they said that wish lists no longer work. Is this true?
    [9/27/2017 12:42:52 PM] WAZED AL NOMAN: Yes, we don't use wishlist only
    [9/27/2017 12:43:02 PM] WAZED AL NOMAN: We work like Google seo
    [9/27/2017 12:44:54 PM] WAZED AL NOMAN: Can I check your listing ?
    [9/27/2017 12:57:01 PM] Chris R: Oh okay
    [9/27/2017 12:57:31 PM] Chris R: Someone that's been doing this for a long time told me that if someone tells me that they are using seo they are lying to me.
    [9/27/2017 12:57:46 PM] Chris R: I'm just really worried about doing this
    [9/27/2017 12:57:54 PM] Chris R: I don't know who to trust.
    [9/27/2017 1:01:04 PM] WAZED AL NOMAN: Yes, actually only SEO almost not working any more, But product getting rank with targeting potential customers with backline, Affiliate marketing and some time need few giveaway to rank faster
    [9/27/2017 1:01:37 PM] Chris R: So how much total would the cost be to rank top 10?
    [9/27/2017 1:03:12 PM] WAZED AL NOMAN: Now we charge $695 for first keyword as now take huge extra time and labor
    [9/27/2017 1:03:43 PM] Chris R: Your website says $450
    [9/27/2017 1:04:07 PM] WAZED AL NOMAN: yet we charged $450 for 1st page ranking with this price
    [9/27/2017 1:04:34 PM] Chris R: Your website says $420 for 1st page
    [9/27/2017 1:04:35 PM] WAZED AL NOMAN: My developer is in vacation, soon we'll update our web site
    [9/27/2017 1:06:10 PM] WAZED AL NOMAN: Oh yes, but Sir now it's three or forth time harder
    [9/27/2017 1:06:23 PM] WAZED AL NOMAN: that's why we're charging more
    [9/27/2017 1:06:43 PM] Chris R: Okay
    [9/27/2017 1:07:12 PM] Chris R: So the total charge would be $695 for top 10?
    [9/27/2017 1:07:20 PM] WAZED AL NOMAN: Yes Sir
    [9/27/2017 1:08:11 PM] Chris R: You had mentioned give aways
    [9/27/2017 1:08:19 PM] Chris R: Am I going to have to do that as well?
    [9/27/2017 1:09:05 PM] WAZED AL NOMAN: No Sir, sometime product rank stack on a place for few days, then it's may need to do one or two giveaway
    [9/27/2017 1:13:14 PM] Chris R: Oh okay
    [9/27/2017 1:23:16 PM] Chris R: Do you have many clients?
    [9/27/2017 1:25:51 PM] WAZED AL NOMAN: Currently few working with few client
    [9/27/2017 1:26:45 PM] WAZED AL NOMAN: We reduce the working Coz ranking is now huge tough and now I only doing personally on my team
    [9/27/2017 1:27:07 PM] Chris R: Oh okay
    [9/27/2017 1:27:14 PM] Chris R: Is that because of the A10 update?
    [9/27/2017 1:27:27 PM] WAZED AL NOMAN: Yes Sir
    [9/27/2017 1:27:36 PM] Chris R: Okay
    [9/27/2017 1:28:20 PM] Chris R: How do you accept payment?
    [9/27/2017 1:28:32 PM] WAZED AL NOMAN: PayPal
    [9/27/2017 1:29:34 PM] Chris R: I've heard good things about you on the Black Hat World forum.
    [9/27/2017 1:29:48 PM] Chris R: I just want to make sure that you know what you're doing.
    [9/27/2017 1:29:56 PM] WAZED AL NOMAN: :)
    [9/27/2017 1:30:00 PM] Chris R: Sorry about all of the questions.
    [9/27/2017 1:30:48 PM | Edited 1:32:06 PM] WAZED AL NOMAN: No problem Sir, It's usually ask all client and you guys have the right obviously!
    [9/27/2017 1:31:47 PM] Chris R: (Hidden)
    [9/27/2017 1:31:52 PM] Chris R: That is my listing
    [9/27/2017 1:32:06 PM] Chris R: Can you rank it top 10?
    [9/27/2017 1:32:17 PM] WAZED AL NOMAN: Let me check!
    [9/27/2017 1:32:58 PM] WAZED AL NOMAN: Can you please send me the keyword
    [9/27/2017 1:33:02 PM] Chris R: If you have good success with this listing I will have you work on our other one as well.
    [9/27/2017 1:33:25 PM] Chris R: bark collar
    [9/27/2017 1:33:52 PM] WAZED AL NOMAN: OK, What it's current search positions
    [9/27/2017 1:34:01 PM] Chris R: Let me check
    [9/27/2017 1:34:04 PM] Chris R: It keeps changing
    [9/27/2017 1:35:06 PM] WAZED AL NOMAN: Is it in 20th page
    [9/27/2017 1:35:24 PM] Chris R: I just looked
    [9/27/2017 1:35:27 PM] Chris R: middle of page 4
    [9/27/2017 1:36:02 PM] WAZED AL NOMAN: Oh, good. I'll start working tomorrow
    [9/27/2017 1:36:15 PM] Chris R: How did you see 20th page?
    [9/27/2017 1:36:41 PM] WAZED AL NOMAN: No, I didn't. Just wondering
    [9/27/2017 1:36:49 PM] Chris R: Oh okay
    [9/27/2017 1:37:02 PM] Chris R: Sorry about that
    [9/27/2017 1:37:10 PM] Chris R: I didn't read it right
    [9/27/2017 1:37:23 PM] WAZED AL NOMAN: It's ok, no need to be sorry!
    [9/27/2017 1:37:36 PM] Chris R: When do I make payment?
    [9/27/2017 1:38:09 PM] WAZED AL NOMAN: I'll send you the Payment details tomorrow
    [9/27/2017 1:38:17 PM] Chris R: Okay
    [9/27/2017 1:38:52 PM] WAZED AL NOMAN: OK Sir, Have a good day!
    [9/27/2017 1:40:06 PM] Chris R: Thank you
    [9/27/2017 1:40:09 PM] Chris R: You too!
    [9/27/2017 1:40:21 PM] WAZED AL NOMAN: Welcome Sir :)
    [9/27/2017 11:59:59 PM] *** Show messages from: Thursday, September 28, 2017 - Sunday, October 8, 2017 ***
    [9/28/2017 3:27:48 PM] WAZED AL NOMAN: Hi Sir,
    How you doing?
    Please send the money to this PayPal ID : [email protected]
    On note please input this text : hasan /HT
    After sending money please send me the full transection history and it's a screen shot. I need those info to send the payment agency and those are mandatory if I request them to refund the money.
    Have a nice evening,
    Thanks
    [9/28/2017 3:29:19 PM] Chris R: Okay and total is $695 as service?
    [9/28/2017 3:29:36 PM] WAZED AL NOMAN: Yes Sir
    [9/28/2017 3:32:21 PM] Chris R: Okay great
    [9/28/2017 5:50:34 PM] Chris R: Payment sent
    [9/28/2017 9:47:25 PM] WAZED AL NOMAN: Ok Sir,
    Thank you very much. :)
    [9/28/2017 10:11:08 PM] Chris R: You're very welcome
    [10/8/2017 10:40:41 AM] WAZED AL NOMAN: Hi Sir,
    Your product is in 2nd page 63th positions on our search.
    (Hidden)
    [10/8/2017 1:16:59 PM] Chris R: Hello
    [10/8/2017 1:17:44 PM] Chris R: I just checked and we are on the 3rd page in the 57th position.
    [10/8/2017 1:18:22 PM] WAZED AL NOMAN: Yes, sometime same page contain more product, it's depend on browser
    [10/8/2017 1:18:33 PM] Chris R: Oh okay
    [10/8/2017 1:19:09 PM] WAZED AL NOMAN: The main thing is serial number
    [10/8/2017 1:19:13 PM] Chris R: Are you happy with the progress you and your team are making?
    [10/8/2017 1:19:20 PM] Chris R: What do you mean serial number?
    [10/8/2017 1:21:53 PM] WAZED AL NOMAN: I mean position numbers, Yes I hope we're on track
    [10/8/2017 1:22:03 PM] Chris R: Oh okay
    [10/8/2017 1:22:06 PM] Chris R: Okay great
    [10/8/2017 1:22:10 PM] Chris R: Thank you
    [10/8/2017 1:23:18 PM] WAZED AL NOMAN: Welcome Sir :)
    [10/9/2017 11:42:11 AM] Chris R: Hello
    [10/9/2017 11:42:56 AM] Chris R: I just wanted to let you know that our listing was removed a couple of hours ago due to a safety concern
    [10/9/2017 11:43:10 AM] Chris R: I'm already trying to fix it with Amazon
    [10/9/2017 11:43:21 AM] Chris R: I will let you know when the listing is back up
    [10/9/2017 12:25:58 PM] WAZED AL NOMAN: Ok Sir
    [10/10/2017 5:17:16 AM] Chris R: Hello
    [10/10/2017 5:17:21 AM] Chris R: The listing is reinstated
    [10/10/2017 5:18:57 AM] WAZED AL NOMAN: Ok, we'll start again. Is the search position still same?
    [10/10/2017 5:19:51 AM] Chris R: Okay thank you
    [10/10/2017 5:19:54 AM] Chris R: I'm not sure
    [10/10/2017 5:19:58 AM] Chris R: I'll check right now
    [10/10/2017 5:20:15 AM] WAZED AL NOMAN: Ok we'll check it. Don't worry
    [10/10/2017 5:20:27 AM] WAZED AL NOMAN: Thanks :)
    [10/10/2017 5:20:56 AM] Chris R: It's on the middle of page 3
    [10/10/2017 5:21:04 AM] Chris R: With my browser anyway
    [10/10/2017 5:21:53 AM] Chris R: position 54
    [10/10/2017 5:22:21 AM] Chris R: Sorry about the inconvenience this may have caused you and your team.
    [10/10/2017 5:23:08 AM] WAZED AL NOMAN: No problem Sir :)
    [10/19/2017 2:20:37 PM] Chris R: Hello
    [10/20/2017 1:21:48 PM] Chris R: Hello
    [10/22/2017 10:26:13 AM] WAZED AL NOMAN: Hi Sir,
    Sorry for late. Was in dilwalli vacation.
    We're working on your product but doesn't getting good move. May need to do some giveaway.
    [10/22/2017 10:30:04 AM] Chris R: Oh okay
    [10/22/2017 10:30:21 AM] Chris R: Hope you had a good vacation
    [10/22/2017 10:30:35 AM] Chris R: I can't afford to do a giveaway
    [10/22/2017 10:31:45 AM] WAZED AL NOMAN: Yes, we had a great time spend.
    Don't worry Sir, will continue working without giveaway
    [10/22/2017 10:31:55 AM] Chris R: That's great
    [10/22/2017 10:32:01 AM] Chris R: Okay thank you.
    [10/26/2017 12:24:59 PM] *** Call to WAZED AL NOMAN, no answer.
    Send video message ***
    [11/3/2017 3:42:15 PM] Chris R: Hello
    [11/4/2017 12:03:53 AM] WAZED AL NOMAN: Hi
    [11/4/2017 4:27:29 AM] Chris R: It's been about five weeks and the listing is still on page four.
    [11/4/2017 4:28:07 AM] Chris R: I know you and your team really tried to rank my listing but you weren't able to do so.
    [11/4/2017 4:28:57 AM] Chris R: Your website says that you guarantee your work which is why I chose to go with you guys.
    [11/4/2017 4:29:37 AM] Chris R: At this point I don't feel that you will be able to rank the listing and I'd like a refund.
    [11/4/2017 4:29:59 AM] Chris R: I don't want this to be difficult.
    [11/4/2017 4:42:22 AM] WAZED AL NOMAN: Ok no problem
    [11/4/2017 4:42:50 AM] Chris R: Thank you very much.
    [11/4/2017 2:00:22 PM] *** (cake)

    It's WAZED AL NOMAN's birthday today.
    Give the gift of birthday calls to mobiles and landlines with a Skype Gift Card. ***
    [11/5/2017 11:15:21 AM] Chris R: Hello
    [11/7/2017 1:13:33 PM] Chris R: I haven't received the refund yet. I had said before that I don't want this to be difficult. I paid you for your services, your team wasn't able to perform the services that I paid for. It's as simple as that. If I don't receive a refund I will start a shit list thread on the BHW forums and every other forum that I have seen you advertise your services on.
     
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    It's been over two weeks and I have yet to hear a word from this guy or receive a refund.

    -Chris
     
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    Hi,
    I submitted the refund request to campaign maneger about few weeks ago. I just got notification from the workers.
    Unfortunately they didn't accept the refund request because the job was declared as completed to them.
    It's because they were very closed to the targeted results (was in 1st page 16th position and the target was 1st page top 10th positions ) and suddenly occurred a fault with cattegorie & shipping problem of seller center. For this resoan the product vanished from search results and remain vanished few days until the seller fixed the problem. Within those day, team worker didn't work with this ASIN as this wasn't appear on Amazon.
    For this client personal fault the product ranking fall down totally and we start it over agin. This time the result wasn't satisfactory.
    Now the team member's aren't willing to take responsibility for client's seller central fault. This is totally against our terms of services. We didn't take any responsibility for buyer's mistake. If the problems happened from our side then we would be like to take the responsibility and work more or refund the money.
    So, as not getting the expected result was totally client's fault our accounting depertment can't process the refund request.
    The best I can do from my side, I can request to my team members to work hard with the same ASIN few days without any charge.
    The job is complete to us. And I rest my case.
    Thanks
     
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    He is lying yet again. I've already proven him a liar with the above sky pe transcript.

    - He stated that he requested that we use a different targeted keyword which he NEVER did.

    - He stated that the refund will be processed within two weeks and now he's saying it won't.

    - Now he's stating that the listing was on the first page 16th position which is a COMPLETE lie.

    - Now he's stating that the listing "vanished from search results and remain vanished few days" which again is a COMPLETE lie.

    He charged me the full amount upfront to get my listing into the top 10 on page 1 and he never even came close.

    His website states the following:

    Why should I choose Rankstar?

    Because we provide the safest SEO services for Amazon Sellers. We guarantee our results. If your product doesnt rank, you will get a FULL refund.

    Do you charge upfront?


    Yes, we do require a 50% deposit when the order is placed. However, if your product doesn’t reach the position we agreed upon, we will refund your deposit.


    So far this dude charged me $695 upfront (website says $450 and only half is needed upfront), didn't even come close to accomplishing what we agreed on, has been caught lying numerous times and is now refusing to issue a refund.

    -Chris
     
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    BassTrackerBoats Super Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    You owe the man a refund and have already agreed to refund him.

    Pay him what you owe him.

    I rest the ENTIRE case.
     
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    I paid him via PayPal from my checking account. It's been too long to dispute the charges through PayPal.

    I'm pretty much screwed at this point.

    -Chris
     
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    It's been a week since he last replied to this thread and he has made zero attempt at making things right.

    This guy is clearly a scammer and I really hope he is not able to take advantage of other members of this forum.

    -Chris
     
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    Yes,
    I requested refund and agency already charged me local currency.
    Soon they will process the refund.
    It's getting late because they inform me Cris R. Submitted a dispute over paypal. Agency told me if they refund the disputed money the Account may be on danger. So after the dateline over they will send the money from available balance.
    As we don't have personal PayPal account I must have to be patience.
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    He is either lying again or his "agency" is lying because I haven't even tried to file a dispute with Paypal because I know it's pointless at this time.

    -Chris
     

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