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Scrapebox is it enough for dominating a superniche ? FOR discussion

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by secret agent, Aug 26, 2010.

  1. secret agent

    secret agent Junior Member

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    Hey guys / Gals

    I made this post to discuss if we used scrapebox to build a lot of backlinks +(usual methods "article marketing - content ...etc " ) will it be enough to dominate superniche ?? And how much estimated time its gonna take to dominate that niche ??




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  2. xxf8xx

    xxf8xx Supreme Member

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    Ranking factors are always different. As for ranking a site with scrapebox, it is possible as long as you're not an idiot with it. I have had it for about 2 months and am currently on the first page for a few keywords and am ranking 30th for my main keyword which gets 60k searches a day and has about 500k competing sites. So yes it's possible and I'm sure many have done it, likewise though, you shouldn't just rely on scrapebox for G domination, you should use other tools as well.
     
  3. bobbylove321

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    Let me put it to you this way.

    I've used Scrapebox to comment on over 50,000 websites now ("posted") and I am ranking 3rd page for the keyword "hip hop" which has 217,000,000 competition!

    It took me 1 week to go from page 27 to page 3 with the help of scrapebox.
     
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  4. secret agent

    secret agent Junior Member

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    Pretty good answer and your right ranking factors are not the same but what do you mean by other tools? such as ?
     
  5. secret agent

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    very nice

    Imagine if used Xrumer lol
     
  6. G0D0VERY0U

    G0D0VERY0U Regular Member

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    Um, I suppose? Nobody can answer this question effectively....

    If you are only going to use SB for linking to your money page, I hope you plan on doing it for the rest of your life because comment links don't really hold a whole lot of "Sustainable" power for all but the very weakest niche's. They are good for two things:

    Ranking quickly, short term
    Building link juice into a parasite

    If you intend to use them on a long term project, you better plan on getting some parasites in there and that alone already exceeds the scope of the topic.
     
  7. xxf8xx

    xxf8xx Supreme Member

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    I don't necessarily mean other "tools" but I mean you can do article/directory submissions, link exchanges, general site optimization, etc... As for the above post, I don't think you HAVE to use other methods. What I do is save all of my PR2+ URLs that aren't spammed to death. I just started doing this but already I have about 150 unique domains that give some good solid link juice. With a big enough list one can simply run the slow poster once a week or even once a month to keep their rankings. Sure it would be nice to not have to keep posting to blogs over and over but sustaining a ranking with Scrapebox is definitely possible. Anyway Scrapebox is all I have been using so I guess I will see what happens in the long run with my sites. Stay tuned at 2015millionaire.com :D
     
  8. rhino999

    rhino999 Newbie

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    I like scrapebox but the key which alot people miss is tha tyou need the content, dont forget the content.
     
  9. secret agent

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    yeah content is important of course or either you will be band ASAP and have no site at the first place lol :D
     
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    Results 1-10 of about 28,400,000

    jumping between 1st and 6th place in 2 weeks
     
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    theqavish Regular Member

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    Great to see the results of scrapebox here . I knew it was a good software for ranking but i didnt know that it was that much good. I really have to buy this scrapebox in coming days. if i combine it with my other techniques with which i rank websites then its gonna rock for sure.
     
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    Its only as good as the person using it :cool:
     
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    are you as good as SB? :D
     
  14. westham

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    Could you elaborate on what you mean by "building link juice into a parasite".

    What is a parasite in this context?

    Wouldn't the link juice of the parasite also diminish due to the unsustainable power of the comment links?

    If comment links are unsustainable, are there other types of links that are sustainable? What are they?

    Thanks!
     
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    Hey westham, some ideas for more sustainable backlinks include articles, directories, link exchanges, manual blog commenting, profile links and I know there are more I just can't think of them right now. Oh and by parasite, I think he means a site that links to your money site, such as an entity of a link wheel/pyramid. The people that visit your parasite in turn visit your money site and you do not have to worry about getting deindexed, etc... because your money site stays completely white hat. Correct me if I'm wrong anyone.
     
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  16. fatzips

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    i've had scrapebox for about a month and it's done wonders for my site ranking.
    i'm still learning to use all of the addons but i'm glad i purchased it!
     
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    So many other factors.

    Having the right keyword to fight for in the first place, optimizing you onsite SEO, producing content for both your site and distribution.

    I would not go into battle without help in all of these areas (good keyword tool, good spinner, decent knowledge of onsite SEO and maybe some tools to assist with good layouts, tags and all that jazz)

    For links and web presence alone, then SB can do a decent job. Links and some ranking juice.

    But even here for faster results I'd want something help dominate WEB2.0 a little quicker (a bookmarking tool, a lens builder, a facebook friend adder, a twitter tool - one or some of this kind of thing)

    I think it's "just" about possible to use SB on it's own for certain very soft keywords. "just".

    But with a little help you'd do a whole lot better.

    I don't like overtooling though. Once I have a system that uses more than 4 or 5 dedicated tools for this kind of stuff, I start to think about trimming.

    It's not about owning every tool and being half assed in all of them.

    Having an t&&l box with 4 or 5 well chosen ones that cover all the bases (on site SEO, link bulding, Content spinning, WEB2.0 or whatever) that you really get to know over a few months and use daily, to a system that you devise yourself and are comfortable with. That's the best way IMO.

    SB is perhaps the best value of any tool out there, A one off price for such a powerful tool is hard to beat, but personally, I would spend a few hundred bucks more and develop a system to do most things.

    Scritty
     
  18. secret agent

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    Pretty Good and smooth Discussion :D
     
  19. G0D0VERY0U

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    The idea is that you can generate enough links en mass from these poor little links that when the PR update rolls around they contribute to add up to a total of one or two PR points - BUT if you had that many pointing to your money site it might get either punished for obvious super spam and once your parasites obtain a certain PR they normally keep it because they are hosting in conjunction with domains that already have an established PR that's significantly higher.

    IE - once you built a page on a PR8 domain up to a PR2, it will normally keep that PR rather well over the course of time with little to no additional work.

    Furthermore - It's in your benefit to have a lot (20 to 100) of those PR2's, 3's, 4's and like parasites pointing at your money site, instead of tens of thousands of individual blog comments and other link spam. This is a general concept for all micro-macro relationship link building and link spamming.

    And lastly - if your parasite is well written as a sales copy itself, since those parasites CAN rank well once enough link juice is put behind them, they can begin to rank in the top 10 before your main money page is increasing it's SERP. For instance, if you had 2 Ezinearticles, 2 goarticles, 2 buzzle articles, 2 hubpages, 2 squidoo len's all eating up the top 10 positions (not that they would in all but the most vacant keywords) you could easily make some substantial income before your main money maker made it up there. After your money maker was at the top, you could choose to completely pound your parasites with so much spam that they get serp'ed punished but PR improved - OR - just enough to keep them someplace around the top but still pass on some slightly increased PR juice to your money sites all while blocking out your competition.

    This goes for all link spamming methodologies (Blog farm, blog comments, Xrumer, blah blah blah...) and isn't anything new on my part, just passing it on.....
     
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  20. jb2008

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    That's interesting God, I've been doing this, blasting the sh*t out of web 2.0 properties to eventually link to money sites. But I can't help but think I am 'wasting' all those links. I get 5,000 backlinks to a blog for just 1 link to my money site. Are you saying that 1 link is as powerful as the 5,000 which I could have just linked directly to my money site?