Scammed for $1200 by X2 Emails / Vicky & Zeeshan

friendliestbear · Sep 17, 2021

**Why did I not post this in shit list? @BassTrackerBoats asked me to post in the lounge since the member who started the X2 Emails thread is no longer with there company and asked me to post in the lounge instead**

Anyone else been scammed by them?

I signed up for X2 emails after finding the service on BHW and bought an account, "Zeeshan" who runs the company and official Facebook group, BHW account, Discord and more, later he had offered me to buy an already generated email list of 10 million emails for $1000 USD. It's been over two months since I ordered and almost one month since I was told I would be getting a refund.

I agreed to purchase and sent the $1000 via bitcoin. The payment was confirmed received by X2 customer service and Zeeshan and there on site customer support agent Maria - They confirm they have received by telling me I will receive the data within 2 days - When previously Zeeshan told me he was in a rush to receive payment as his employees had already been working on it for me before payment.

right after this message Zeeshan stopped replying, I placed several messages to him and tried contacting him on Facebook chat, there websites live chat customer service, there official Facebook group. I posted comments after a week of waiting in the X2 emails group saying Zeeshan respond to me and I was banned to comment into there Facebook group, still with no response. I asked live chat to speak with other owners or management of the company they provided an email I have messaged 3 times, I also messaged from a friends Facebook account pretending to be interested in there services he was replying there right away until I confronted him to say hey its me, where is the data I ordered 2 weeks ago, of course after that he disappeared again. Otherwise the only form of communication provided was the live chat agent Maria who would reply and tell me they will pass on the message to Zeeshan.

I do not believe they ever intended on providing the email list or else they would have sent it over instead of telling me they will refund me.

Be careful, they are still currently taking orders for email lists and not providing it.

I will update if I ever end up getting my refund, I cant imagine that happening though.

friendliestbear · Sep 17, 2021

PushKing · Sep 17, 2021

That's a shame! Don't pay in bitcoin next time.

friendliestbear · Sep 17, 2021

PushKing said:
That's a shame! Don't pay in bitcoin next time.

Forsure, I try for PayPal usually, but seeing as they are a decent sized company with many customers thats been operating for a while on BHW I did not expect to happen.

If the money is lost oh well, just hoping others don't get scammed and it's not fair to let them get away with it.

BimTop · Sep 17, 2021

PushKing said:
That's a shame! Don't pay in bitcoin next time.

There are honest services that do not accept Paypal. Even with Paypal, you can still get scammed. The problem is not method of payment, but OP not verify well before transaction. You can't rely on chargeback to cover your mistake

friendliestbear · Sep 18, 2021

BimTop said:
There are honest services that do not accept Paypal. Even with Paypal, you can still get scammed. The problem is not method of payment, but OP not verify well before transaction. You can't rely on chargeback to cover your mistake

True, but in this case I don't know how much more I could have verified, I had purchased from them on two different occasions without issue, before and they are a decent size company with over 1000 customers, many of them BHW members, and they have acknowledged receiving my payment.

Goat10 · Sep 18, 2021

Sorry to hear that man. Getting scammed is inevitable in IM but we should set limits to ourselves.

This is how I deal with transactions these days, every time I make a payment I expect to be scammed so I only make transactions that I can afford to lose. If the amount is something I cannot afford to lose, I would go through escrow or not make that transaction at all.

Gogame1 · Sep 18, 2021

Are they still offering this service using BHW BST?

Pardesi · Sep 18, 2021

I don't get it. If they are still selling on BHW and you have been scammed by them then why not a shitlist? How does it matter if one person left the company.

luckyfriend · Sep 18, 2021

Bad luck bro..
What I heard was, BHW is working on Escrow service.. Desperately waiting for that..
That should resolve all such problems...

IamNRE · Sep 18, 2021

If possible, you should always make large purchases with your credit card, that way if you get scammed, the cred card company will issue you a refund and go after the scammer, and the credit card company has the means to take them to court and get their money back + any other cost they endured from taking them to court etc.

amaansoft · Sep 18, 2021

friendliestbear said:
**Why did I not post this in shit list? @BassTrackerBoats asked me to post in the lounge since the member who started the X2 Emails thread is no longer with there company and asked me to post in the lounge instead**

Anyone else been scammed by them?

I signed up for X2 emails after finding the service on BHW and bought an account, "Zeeshan" who runs the company and official Facebook group, BHW account, Discord and more, later he had offered me to buy an already generated email list of 10 million emails for $1000 USD. It's been over two months since I ordered and almost one month since I was told I would be getting a refund.

I agreed to purchase and sent the $1000 via bitcoin. The payment was confirmed received by X2 customer service and Zeeshan and there on site customer support agent Maria - They confirm they have received by telling me I will receive the data within 2 days - When previously Zeeshan told me he was in a rush to receive payment as his employees had already been working on it for me before payment.

right after this message Zeeshan stopped replying, I placed several messages to him and tried contacting him on Facebook chat, there websites live chat customer service, there official Facebook group. I posted comments after a week of waiting in the X2 emails group saying Zeeshan respond to me and I was banned to comment into there Facebook group, still with no response. I asked live chat to speak with other owners or management of the company they provided an email I have messaged 3 times, I also messaged from a friends Facebook account pretending to be interested in there services he was replying there right away until I confronted him to say hey its me, where is the data I ordered 2 weeks ago, of course after that he disappeared again. Otherwise the only form of communication provided was the live chat agent Maria who would reply and tell me they will pass on the message to Zeeshan.

I do not believe they ever intended on providing the email list or else they would have sent it over instead of telling me they will refund me.

Be careful, they are still currently taking orders for email lists and not providing it.

I will update if I ever end up getting my refund, I cant imagine that happening though.

Thank you for this alert. this will help others being cheated.
Thank you.

Sephrata · Sep 18, 2021

@elfrost is definitely still associated with Zeeshan and X2Emails. He's still accepting payments from his Paypal account for X2Emails.

Gogame1 · Sep 18, 2021

Pardesi said:
I don't get it. If they are still selling on BHW and you have been scammed by them then why not a shitlist? How does it matter if one person left the company.

I think because of this post - https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/x...keting-campaign.1215377/page-17#post-14197901

Pardesi · Sep 18, 2021

Gogame1 said:
I think because of this post - https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/x...keting-campaign.1215377/page-17#post-14197901

Ok. So the BST is already closed and I guess you bought the service from their website then. In this case BHW won't be handling the scam as you didn't get the service on BHW platform and probably that's why you were told to make a general post just to make everyone aware of this situation so that it doesn't lead to anyone else getting scammed.

I still think the last post on the BST owner's thread should be edited as the owner clearly says that they can get the service from their website which is leading to BHW members getting scammed.

friendliestbear · Sep 18, 2021

Pardesi said:
Ok. So the BST is already closed and I guess you bought the service from their website then. In this case BHW won't be handling the scam as you didn't get the service on BHW platform and probably that's why you were told to make a general post just to make everyone aware of this situation so that it doesn't lead to anyone else getting scammed.

I still think the last post on the BST owner's thread should be edited as the owner clearly says that they can get the service from their website which is leading to BHW members getting scammed.

Yes, although I think its in the BHW community's best interest to remove the thread from the forum so our members are not discovering there service to be scammed... Many of X2emails customers are from Black Hat World

Sephrata said:
@elfrost is definitely still associated with Zeeshan and X2Emails. He's still accepting payments from his Paypal account for X2Emails.

I am not very surprised to hear that I didn't quite believe he was myself. @BassTrackerBoats

SwiffJustus · Sep 18, 2021

@BassTrackerBoats
This is a NO BRAINIER...Thread should be removed. There are live links leading to the website on the closed thread...If it remains visible BHW Should hold some accountability for what happens from that thread as it is still a active component on THEIR site. Saying the Thread is closed in the last post (17th page) which most people want even make it to , but leave the thread with active links to a website which has scam complaints is unacceptable.. I know we have some pretty smart Guys here who have to realize this.They have to see how this is a recipe for trouble..

friendliestbear · Sep 18, 2021

Pardesi said:
Ok. So the BST is already closed and I guess you bought the service from their website then. In this case BHW won't be handling the scam as you didn't get the service on BHW platform and probably that's why you were told to make a general post just to make everyone aware of this situation so that it doesn't lead to anyone else getting scammed.

I still think the last post on the BST owner's thread should be edited as the owner clearly says that they can get the service from their website which is leading to BHW members getting scammed.

Yeah I agree with you. I found them from there BST thread and even commented on it a year ago, and then was upsold from there service to an email list then they took my money and ran.

And currently if you message X2 emails on there website, discord or Zeeshan and ask to buy an email list they will tell you its available and ask you to buy it with no intent to deliver it.

If you ask to buy a smaller list 1 million or so they say we cant offer our services for that low amount.

PushKing · Sep 18, 2021

friendliestbear said:
Forsure, I try for PayPal usually, but seeing as they are a decent sized company with many customers thats been operating for a while on BHW I did not expect to happen.

If the money is lost oh well, just hoping others don't get scammed and it's not fair to let them get away with it.

I feel your pain. I think there are Escrow service where they release your bitcoin to the seller once the payment is approved for services delivered.

cheeoon · Sep 19, 2021

Can I have your whatsapp number please, i need to talk you

friendliestbear said:
**Why did I not post this in shit list? @BassTrackerBoats asked me to post in the lounge since the member who started the X2 Emails thread is no longer with there company and asked me to post in the lounge instead**

Anyone else been scammed by them?

I signed up for X2 emails after finding the service on BHW and bought an account, "Zeeshan" who runs the company and official Facebook group, BHW account, Discord and more, later he had offered me to buy an already generated email list of 10 million emails for $1000 USD. It's been over two months since I ordered and almost one month since I was told I would be getting a refund.

I agreed to purchase and sent the $1000 via bitcoin. The payment was confirmed received by X2 customer service and Zeeshan and there on site customer support agent Maria - They confirm they have received by telling me I will receive the data within 2 days - When previously Zeeshan told me he was in a rush to receive payment as his employees had already been working on it for me before payment.

right after this message Zeeshan stopped replying, I placed several messages to him and tried contacting him on Facebook chat, there websites live chat customer service, there official Facebook group. I posted comments after a week of waiting in the X2 emails group saying Zeeshan respond to me and I was banned to comment into there Facebook group, still with no response. I asked live chat to speak with other owners or management of the company they provided an email I have messaged 3 times, I also messaged from a friends Facebook account pretending to be interested in there services he was replying there right away until I confronted him to say hey its me, where is the data I ordered 2 weeks ago, of course after that he disappeared again. Otherwise the only form of communication provided was the live chat agent Maria who would reply and tell me they will pass on the message to Zeeshan.

I do not believe they ever intended on providing the email list or else they would have sent it over instead of telling me they will refund me.

Be careful, they are still currently taking orders for email lists and not providing it.

I will update if I ever end up getting my refund, I cant imagine that happening though.

I asked Zeeshan and I got a replied, can I get your whatsapp please, I show you

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