Scammed by FB_Tiger (Refusing to refund $330)

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Thread in question: FB_Tiger

Proof the other party has been informed of this shit list:
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Proof of Contact: (Submit screenshots showing that you have tried every reasonable form of contact such as emails, Skype, support tickets, etc)
We've been going back and forth with the seller for 2 months now, he refuses to resolve the issue. At some point he didn't respond, so I DM'ed
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Summary of Dispute:
Bought a FB account for $30, it didn't work (account instantly disabled), contacted support, got offered a 'verified BM' account with $30 discount. Agreed and bought it, but the account wasn't working either (all ads got auto rejected in seconds). Seller convinced my pages were a problem and tried to up-sell aged pages. Asked for dummy campaign to prove that the account was working at all, seller refused, but promised a free aged page. FB account and BM got disabled while seller was preparing the aged page. I have not used the account days prior it getting disabled. Seller is blaming me for everything, even though I did not run any ads (wasn't possible), payment method was solid and tested many times, all I did was to create a few pages (which seller recommended doing).



Evidence of the Issue:
Upon receiving first account (Solved itself after FB outage last month):
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After warming it up for 12 hours as recommended and creating a single white hat dummy ad:
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After committing to buying the more expensive BM account
(the proxy included was so slow I though it wasn't even working at first):
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I can't fit anymore screenshots, so here is an imgur link
(The full conversation is so long it would take hours to read, so I screenshoted only the important bits)




What you hope to gain from this shit list:
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Then stop playing and refund my $330 please.



Additional Information
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Seller policy states that replacement is only possible in the first 12 hours, but when you get the account, seller insists on warming it up for the first 12 hours, so due to such contradiction it's impossible to get a replacement if anything goes wrong.

I would also like to highlight that BM got disabled because the business it belongs to (not me) didn't not comply with FB advertising policies.
Here is a screenshot
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Shit List Request Approved
Information For The Accused @FB_Tiger, you have 24 hours to respond to this shit list thread. If you do not respond within 24 hours or we note that you're engaging in any other activities on the forum rather than dealing with this dispute, the decision will be made in favour of the Shit Lister and you will be permanently banned from Black Hat World. In the event that you're permanently banned from the forum, you may send in a support ticket using our support channel only once you've refunded and/or provided what the plaintiff has requested. If your responses to this dispute do not remain prompt, your account will be banned.

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Hello Blackhat, and hello to "Mattans " , i will provide the whole chat between us we are more than sure that you are not need to get any refund / replacement in this case we gave you more than you should paid and still not appreciate it you did take activity after we provide you the account , what was caused to the personal account be burned due your publishing ads of "Solar"
AD COPY :https://ibb.co/wrQGNBY

that not feet to Facebook advertising policy ,he mention the name "TESLA" in his fan page name "FREE INSTALLTION" facebook policy not allowed advertising "free stuff" we are mark several time that we are not responsibility to your account status after you are taking advertising action like open fan page + link payment + publish campaign

We will send the whole chat between us until the part that he open a dispute on us .

first time when he reserved our account all was fine :https://ibb.co/KyBk66r
Personal was live- https://ibb.co/r7j5J5J
bm was live too - https://ibb.co/vZvBXSC
than he have problem with the proxy and we help him and its advertising activate are started
1)https://ibb.co/nbXRpVC2)https://ibb.co/XWPhbry3)https://ibb.co/Sy8V3ts4)https://ibb.co/r2NgTK05)https://ibb.co/xf6JrYV6)https://ibb.co/1dCsD6N7)https://ibb.co/tLsrZ5q8)https://ibb.co/X3sksd19)https://ibb.co/dmNZMxL


FB TIGER TEAM are doing our best to give the best account and the best service for each clients we are not ignore and not disappear in any problem its our first time that someone open dispute on us hope you will get the right decision.
 

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Hello Blackhat, and hello to "Mattans " , i will provide the whole chat between us we are more than sure that you are not need to get any refund / replacement in this case we gave you more than you should paid and still not appreciate it you did take activity after we provide you the account , what was caused to the personal account be burned due your publishing ads of "Solar"
AD COPY :https://ibb.co/wrQGNBY
Don't know what "Mattans " means, but the screenshot you attached was sent to you by me, to which you confirmed in the chat that my AD is clearly NOT the problem.

that not feet to Facebook advertising policy ,he mention the name "TESLA" in his fan page name "FREE INSTALLTION" facebook policy not allowed advertising "free stuff" we are mark several time that we are not responsibility to your account status after you are taking advertising action like open fan page + link payment + publish campaign
Tesla is an english word, not only a brand name and it's a part of my domain and landing page. I am currently using the same domain to run ads on another facebook account. I did not use such statements as 'FREE INSTALLATION', but rather a free quote (free solar panel installation quote) which I don't see anything wrong with. It is not against any rules in my knowledge. (Couldn't find anything about it in FB Advertising Policies) There are also terms and conditions on my landing pages to prevent any 'policy circumventing' issues when advertising.

The rest of it are just some screenshots you took from our conversation, I've attached all of it originally, so there is nothing more to say about it. I agree that the first account did work for a very short period of time, but my main problem is the $300 'aged BM verified' account that did not work even for a second. Please refund me for it and let's be done with this.
 
Don't know what "Mattans " means, but the screenshot you attached was sent to you by me, to which you confirmed in the chat that my AD is clearly NOT the problem.


Tesla is an english word, not only a brand name and it's a part of my domain and landing page. I am currently using the same domain to run ads on another facebook account. I did not use such statements as 'FREE INSTALLATION', but rather a free quote (free solar panel installation quote) which I don't see anything wrong with. It is not against any rules in my knowledge. (Couldn't find anything about it in FB Advertising Policies) There are also terms and conditions on my landing pages to prevent any 'policy circumventing' issues when advertising.

The rest of it are just some screenshots you took from our conversation, I've attached all of it originally, so there is nothing more to say about it. I agree that the first account did work for a very short period of time, but my main problem is the $300 'aged BM verified' account that did not work even for a second. Please refund me for it and let's be done with this.
As we said before you are did violated in your advertising !
Our policy is very clear we cannot take any responsibility after you doing advertising activity trough the account you provide and as Facebook Policy no one will give you replacement / refund !
after you use the product and did this activity:
1.Link payment
2. Create Fan page
3. Use brand name that not connected to your company
4.promising free stuff in your ad copy

Before you did that the account working perfectly (and also the proxy you had a problem for your side and we help you to solve it..)
As we shown in the photos, By the way this account cost for us 280$.
How could we refund on something that already used and get burn because of your activity ?
We cannot sell it again after you use and burn the account !
According to that we ask for the admin to remove this dispute and do not destroy our reputation in the community & forum .
We have the option to show the whole chat between us in any case you need more information however we publish the truth the account was fine and than after the client did advertising action he took a screenshot .
 
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As we said before you are did violated in your advertising !
I did not and don't even remember you saying that.
after you use the product and did this activity:
1.Link payment
2. Create Fan page
A basic thing you do to test literally any ad account.
3. Use brand name that not connected to your company
4.promising free stuff in your ad copy
That is a false and contradictory statement, you provided me a stolen 'aged' account from some Mexican DJ to run my ADs.
Before you did that the account working perfectly (and also the proxy you had a problem for your side and we help you to solve it..)
The proxy problem was explained before, it was so slow I though it wasn't working.

As for the rest, I am not your business advisor, figure it out yourselves. The whole conversation was attached originally (imgur) and we both know that there is nothing more to show.
 
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As you ask there is the full chat between us among all of the chat you can see the attitude of this client that was rude and with zero knowledge..
we aren't providing knowledge / mentoring service and even though we gave him all the time for helping.
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its start being ridiculous and its feel like a waste of time for both side this client used the account and did activity that we cannot give any replace /refund we cannot sell this account again to anyone after it has been used.
 
As you ask there is the full chat between us among all of the chat you can see the attitude of this client that was rude and with zero knowledge..
we aren't providing knowledge / mentoring service and even though we gave him all the time for helping.
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its start being ridiculous and its feel like a waste of time for both side this client used the account and did activity that we cannot give any replace /refund we cannot sell this account again to anyone after it has been used.
The case stands, I have nothing else to add, it's just going back and forth at this point.
 
just had a similar negative! expirience with them
 
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Other that all the scam allegations, the first four posts in his thread, of positive reviews, are from BHW accounts made on Jun 10, 2021. All the other positive reviews are from accounts made in the last 3 months, made some posts in the forum to not look too suspisious and their last post is the positive review in the thread. Maybe it's a big coincidence, who knows? :)
 
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