Scam 3k people for $100 vs 1 person for $300k?

Which option is OK with you?

  • Scam 3k people for $100

    Votes: 86 40.2%
  • Scam 1 person for $300k

    Votes: 33 15.4%
  • It's not a scam, victim paid for attention

    Votes: 13 6.1%
  • I would never do anything of this

    Votes: 92 43.0%

  • Total voters
    214
Itll probably be one person for 300k.

Ruining one life seems like the lesser evil than potentially ruining 3k peeps, right?


Facts.

Feels much better to have a real business knowing that you're at least adding value and aren't promoting borderline scams.
I mean taking 300k away from a single person will likely put you into prision or at least will give you some legal issues, since I doubt anyone who feels scammed by 300k will just take it, unlike folks who lost maybe 20-60$ for a subscription or something.
 
I have been in similar situation before. For me it was Clickbank and other PPS as well as CPA network products (non adult only). I have grown out of this, and I would not do it anymore even if I found some "exploitable" strategy. I feel it is not worth my time, not because of the $ amount, but because of how low life it feels while I see the sales stats in the dashboard.

Heck, I even promoted a "make money being article writer" product, which probably was a scam (it was on clickbank though). I don't want to make "desparate" people lose money anymore.

That's just me though, no disrespect to anyone doing it.
You guys make me want to retire from CPA after reading some of these threads, lol. Let me make a quick Mill first then I retire and donate some of it to charity.
 
Facts.

Feels much better to have a real business knowing that you're at least adding value and aren't promoting borderline scams.
Agreed - This is my way of business to @UnusualSubstance :)
Ok you send some guy to a porn site - if he gets porn for free - what's the big deal.
You take someone's life saving because they are lonely - you are scum - your born and raised by scum and you will eventually be killed by the scummy friends you have.
Better to use the dark arts to promote something of value.. just my opinion. Preferably something you created.
 
I've been working full-time with dating offers since 2016 until just a year ago. I've worked with practically all Spanish advertisers.

My sincere opinion is that some people deserve to fall into this shit. If I could change that, I wouldn't mind giving up CPA/similar online businesses. Surely the world would be a better place if people weren't so ridiculously STUPID. But since it's not in my power, I don't feel ANY responsibility.

Just look at the boom of infoproducts we're experiencing. I see it from the outside, and every day I'm more convinced that human stupidity is not only incurable, but it also increases every passing day.
If you're foolish and do nothing to avoid it, you deserve to fall into all the premium subscriptions in the world, to see if that wakes you up.
 
What's better in your opinion?

Before you click the option "I would never do that" and you have run any kind of affiliate traffic, read below.

So I was watching this. I follow trilogy media and other channels similar to this niche as they are quite good mirrors in human psychology.

In the year 2023 I earned about $300k in affiliate earnings within the adult dating niche. I don't know how many leads I generated but I would say approx 30k in PPL or it would be approx 3k in PPS.

Let's be straight honest here, as to how much we would like to sugarcoat it: adult dating affiliate marketing niche is a borderline scam, leads think they will connect with real persons but instead get chatters whose only task will be upsells or PTV.

Same as your onlyfans agency, which I wouldn't be wrong calling modern-day e-whoring. If you run OF agency with chatters etc, you are a scammer.

If you run dating offers, you are a scammer for sure.

Same as I am promoting shitty affiliate links.

We can hide behind the idea that we are not responsible for the end product and we can't control it but thats bullshit.

If you think your freshly cooked e-book of how to make tons of money within a short period of time working from home is any different from this, you need to stop lying to yourself. It's just a different type of product you are marketing but the idea is the same: you sell a dream, and there is small to no value behind it.

But hey, here is another angle to think about: these people want to have attention from these scammers, they desire to be loved, and they are happy to have someone to take care of(example).

So now that we have been past pretending that all of us would be white knights in this situation, what is your opinion on this?

Would be taking $100 from 3k people better than $300k from a single person?
nothing would get me to scam for even 1$
the answer would be no, period .
once you become a thief your credibility is Gone

there where times in my life when i was in my early 20s
that living week to week was tough, but never once did
i think, who can i scam to make my life better...NO
 
nothing would get me to scam for even 1$
the answer would be no, period .
once you become a thief your credibility is Gone

You sell proxies. What do you think most of your clients use them for? To create stealth accounts, fake reviews, and probably some worse things. Do you think your hands aren't dirty? I think you haven't understood the thread properly.
 
You sell proxies. What do you think most of your clients use them for? To create stealth accounts, fake reviews, and probably some worse things. Do you think your hands aren't dirty? I think you haven't understood the thread properly.
@Ignatius_Reilly not so --- i sold url scraping proxies from 2006-20
nothing more, and i quit selling scraping proxies in 2020 after a health scare
i havent sold proxys in 3 yrs and i only ever sold scraping proxys not
account making proxys
 
nothing would get me to scam for even 1$
the answer would be no, period .
once you become a thief your credibility is Gone

there where times in my life when i was in my early 20s
that living week to week was tough, but never once did
i think, who can i scam to make my life better...NO
I would scam anyone any day of the week. I am a scammer.

You got scammed by cigs industry.

Is that a halo effect that if someone didn't scam someone else they're immediately good? Om

Letting other people scam you left and right isn't good for you and your family. So ultimately you aren't that good because of that.
 
It depends on the circumstances.
Whichever of the two groups is less dependent on the money, I would choose this.
So I would go by least harm caused to the victim.
 
getting scammed is something you Dont expect
anyone who smokes knows the risks, theres no scam
in smoking, you might get ill, you might not, but its your
choice to make, i choose to smoke 30 yrs, it gave me
a heart attack - so i quit. also my choice.
ps - ive never been scammed im not that dumb.
The problem is you paid with money and then got a heart attack which I'm sure you didn't expect.

You were sold a lie by people who were sold the lie that you can inhale smoke into your lungs from plants. Old good buzz marketing, yeah.

In fact you should feel odd about it and anxious. That'd be natural reaction to smoke from cigs and hundreds of cancerogenic substances.

The lie is so strong and socially accepted people start to reject natural disgust to high temperature smoke.

Tracking down the root of scam isn't that simple.

You can use word scam for anything these days. So I just did that. Fun.

Maybe your definition of scam is more strict. Here I'm doing everything to prove anything can be called that way.
 
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@reaaski my last reply as we are diverting the thread.
im 54 i started smoking in1982 when i was 13
if you wanna be technical, at that age i didnt know the
smoking risks, but as i got older i did.

i saw friends / relatives die of smoking cancer but hay i
was young then, we where all invincible.

i tried to quit 3x in my 40s and failed, it took the heart attack
at 51 to make me say, fck this shit im done & i QUIT the
day after my heart surgery. DONE.

but i wasnt scammed i choose to smoke, i choose to quit.
and quitting now saves me around £3000 a year
wanna save money - quit smokin
 
getting scammed is something you Dont expect.

anyone who smokes knows the risks, theres no scam
in smoking, you might get ill, you might not, but its your
choice to make, i choose to smoke 30 yrs, it gave me
a heart attack - so i quit. also my choice.

ps - ive never been scammed yet in life

I think you have a misconception of what a 'scam' is and what it's not. The example you provided is terrible.

Do you know that not so long ago, tobacco ads claimed that tobacco is good for health? That it can cure asthma and throat diseases? In fact, the first studies that argued that tobacco seriously affected health came between 1950 and 1960. But by that point, there were already MILLIONS of people addicted to tobacco, along with an entire culture built around it. Doesn't it really seem like a scam of scandalous proportions to you?

Where is the scam and where is it not? In Spain, they recently passed a law that prohibits real estate agencies from charging tenants one month's rent, and they've simply changed the concept from 'rent' to 'consultation' and are still charging it.

The other day I went to have lunch with my parents and stopped by the bakery for some pastries. The lady always discreetly leans on the scale while weighing the pastries to scrape a few extra cents on each sale. She thinks I don't notice, and I pretend not to see her. It doesn't really bother me, everyone's just trying to make a living however they can.

The government itself is the biggest scammer of all. Want to see Spain's tax brackets for this year?

First bracket: from 0 to 12,450 euros, a 19% is withheld.
Second bracket: from 12,450 to 20,200 euros, a 24% is withheld.
Third bracket: from 20,200 euros to 35,200 euros, a 30% is withheld.
Fourth bracket: from 35,300 to 60,000 euros, a 37% is withheld.
Fifth bracket: from 60,000 euros to 300,000 euros, a 45% is withheld.
Sixth bracket: starting from 300,000 euros, a 47% is withheld.

Added to that, there's a 21% VAT on any purchase I make. If, in addition, I want to lend, for example, 1,000 euros to a friend or family member, that person has to PAY TAXES AGAIN on those 1,000 euros (and let's not forget that this money has already been taxed at its corresponding rate before)

We also have what is known as 'inheritance tax,' so that in the event of a family member's death and leaving me something in inheritance, I have to pay between 7.65% and 34% of the inherited amount to the state, regardless of the fact that - once again - this money has already been taxed with the aforementioned taxes.

So, what is a scam and what isn't? Simply the fact that you don't expect it? I find that a very poor and ineffective way to measure it. Things are not black or white, there are shades of gray.
 
Today they stole $3 or more worth of items at McDonald's. On my order.

Tomatoes were removed from two double-patty village burgers (wieśmac). It was not commissioned. Probably an untrained player made the burger. Or some girl who is afraid of tomatoes. Alternatively, they snacked. I have no idea

Is there pain to it? Minimum. Only slight disappointment. So it doesn't really feel like a scam.

From some redneck I heard they hire almost everyone that asks at that location. So... Don't eat at McDonald's where they hire everyone.
 
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Scam both 1 x for 300k $ and 3k for 100$ . Compare it after which made me feel worse.

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Fraud is a bad action. We should work in a healthy way
 
Again there was some scams today...

For example frog store (zabka).

They inflate price of one product.

To get the normal price you need to buy 2 same products.

What customer feels is annoyance.

They feel angry.

So they choose inflated price on one item.

If you have money, you buy two items.

But at that time you paid a lot more.

So you always lose. It's a scam like no other.

Like a casino in which odds are equal to lose. Always. Not even an illusion.

What's the problem here this store called frog (żabka) is on every corner here.

It's obvious manipulative marketing going hard. I'm wondering what corrupted fuck allows that.

I'd understand this trickery on the internet. But this shit is on every corner of country.

It's cognitively exhausting to find items with nornal price in this country now.

I will file a couple of court documents!!

Man. There are two stores where it was fun to shop. Guess what. They don't have Polish brands. Lol!!!

Walkers from another country are cheaper there than lays (Polish Walkers) produced locally here. Wjat a headfuck.

They wanted to inflate price of lay's so hard that one of major stores owned by Portuguese (!!) had to resign from cooperation. Complete shit!

They did that! Now price of lay's is so high I can't even feel how little in the fucking pack is.

Inflation is a tool of propaganda. Most prices are inflated by businesses on purpose. In non FMCG and non real estate markets they don't blow up!!! It's just used against masses.
 
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