✈️ Scaling up to $20,000 month using free traffic | ⛔ Passive income on autopilot

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Nothing much to update right now. This current journey now is at around 16k/month, and I had days with up to $1200/day.

It's not stable tho and it's going up/down, probably it's just how lifespan of CPA is.

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Proxy costs skyrocketed and I'm trying to find better ways of handling it as now it's around $1500/month for only proxies and that is what I do not want to pay at all.

All my time is now taken by youtube journey that is now tied up with a JV which takes 90% of my time now, it's bringing in additional $10k/month tho.

In overall, in last few weeks I had to re-learn what I know about handling multithreading, solve some performance problems, and optimize a lot.

From time to time still suffer from focus problems but trying to still get all together.

do you mind saying once again what affiliate network is that? Thanks
 

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Nothing much to update right now. This current journey now is at around 16k/month, and I had days with up to $1200/day.

It's not stable tho and it's going up/down, probably it's just how lifespan of CPA is.

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Proxy costs skyrocketed and I'm trying to find better ways of handling it as now it's around $1500/month for only proxies and that is what I do not want to pay at all.

All my time is now taken by youtube journey that is now tied up with a JV which takes 90% of my time now, it's bringing in additional $10k/month tho.

In overall, in last few weeks I had to re-learn what I know about handling multithreading, solve some performance problems, and optimize a lot.

From time to time still suffer from focus problems but trying to still get all together.
nice bro im truly happy that you made it , honestly i tried what your doing right now but i aint got the right tools atm so next time :p
 

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Hi lucky,

that is some inspirational stuff, especially since I am planning to do something similar, with a twist to rely on my own
products rather than Affiliate / CPA stuff, since I want to maximize profits.

I would appreciate it if you could share few words of wisdom with the following unknowns that I have:

1) From what I have read in three threads of yours, you are using headless or full browser instances running through 4g proxified connections.
Have you met any problems with your setup being to similar and need to randomize emulated environment with different reported resolutions,
installed fonts and other digital footprints or on your scale (few hundred 4g connections) it doesn't matter?

2) Did you encounter problems with 4g modems being immobile? I read somewhere that G tracks that by using cell tower info.
I know that 4g modems don't have android through which G can get that data, but I guess they already have data mined at least some of it
through mobile providers' IP allocation pattern or whatever.

3) I asked a question a while ago about ROI per 4G IP through thread on BHW, you mentioned somewhere that you are seeing 20 USD per account.
I think you meant per social account? So, in ballpark, if you had 1 4G proxy and reddit, instagram, yt and let's say fb account, that would equal to approx 80
USD per month per 4G modem?

Thanks!
 

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Very nice (be it complex) journey, I've read through everything and I think I have a vague idea of what you are doing and it's very impressive and inspiring (and threatening at the same time) I have no desire to try the whole AI thing, can barely use Jupyter Notebook... but node.js and puppeteer, proxy farm, I think I can do.

I'm super interested in the creation of accounts with, cookie & profile management.

Would you mind leading me in the right direction involving account creation and management?

"I light up a new browser profile, confirm google's tos and then try to act as human as possible with their tracking cookie enabled."

Are you talking about Chrome's built-in user profile manager, and you create a single profile, export it somehow as a single profile, and when needed import it back in (via chrome or fs?) or do you make all the profiles and swap to each with puppeteer, so the browser could have thousands of profiles saved to it (would think Google would know about this)?

What software do you use to create and rotate the 4g Proxys..?. I think I read you were using a server with a Ubuntu VM and network cards or something.

Also, why use PHP for the management interface and not node.js? Notice someone else with a similar setup doing the same, am I missing something?

Anything you're willing to tell me I'm happy to receive, good luck with goals, will be following along closely.
 

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that is some inspirational stuff
Glad you find it like that.


1) From what I have read in three threads of yours, you are using headless or full browser instances running through 4g proxified connections.
Have you met any problems with your setup being to similar and need to randomize emulated environment with different reported resolutions,
installed fonts and other digital footprints or on your scale (few hundred 4g connections) it doesn't matter?
Yes and no, most of my work is reverse engineering requests instead of using headless browsers. Stealth level depends on the network you want to automate. Nowadays all social platforms tries to use some sort of protection, but most of the time, everything can be automated anyway.

2) Did you encounter problems with 4g modems being immobile? I read somewhere that G tracks that by using cell tower info.
I know that 4g modems don't have android through which G can get that data, but I guess they already have data mined at least some of it
through mobile providers' IP allocation pattern or whatever.
I do not understand what you mean by "immobile". Tracking cell tower info does not make sense and I do not belive it's easily possible. They can track same subnets tho, but tracking anything more would not make much sense because 4g providers can rotate their ips as they please.

3) I asked a question a while ago about ROI per 4G IP through thread on BHW, you mentioned somewhere that you are seeing 20 USD per account.
I think you meant per social account? So, in ballpark, if you had 1 4G proxy and reddit, instagram, yt and let's say fb account, that would equal to approx 80
USD per month per 4G modem?
What you should look for is EPC and nothing else. $20/acc was a total guesstimate and is too unprecise to be used as a measurement.

And even EPC can highly differ from a social network, offer, copywriter, and so much more - for example how good your automation is - can it just post comments or do more.
 

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Very nice (be it complex) journey, I've read through everything and I think I have a vague idea of what you are doing and it's very impressive and inspiring (and threatening at the same time) I have no desire to try the whole AI thing, can barely use Jupyter Notebook... but node.js and puppeteer, proxy farm, I think I can do.
Glad you find it like that!


Would you mind leading me in the right direction involving account creation and management?
If your questions will be detailed enough - more than happy to answer them, but not here to give private lessons or to answer too vague questions.


Are you talking about Chrome's built-in user profile manager, and you create a single profile, export it somehow as a single profile, and when needed import it back in (via chrome or fs?) or do you make all the profiles and swap to each with puppeteer, so the browser could have thousands of profiles saved to it (would think Google would know about this)?
It would depend on the software stack you use, but my approach is to export everything - cookies, sessionstorage, localstorage and indexeddb and then save this state after each session to load it up into use next time I want to use specific user profile. This includes browser fingerprints as well, not only user agents but canvas, WebGL, font and audio fingerprints as well.



What software do you use to create and rotate the 4g Proxys..?. I think I read you were using a server with a Ubuntu VM and network cards or something.
A simple and ugly node.js script. It was one of my first one attempts of doing something in node and its for real ugly. No, I do not use ubuntu VM and network cards. You need 4g modems.


Also, why use PHP for the management interface and not node.js? Notice someone else with a similar setup doing the same, am I missing something?

Anything you're willing to tell me I'm happy to receive, good luck with goals, will be following along closely.
Because I'm more experienced in PHP than node and actually for big projects - to maintain the order, it's more comfortable to work with PHP frameworks than node. But this discussion is out of scope about this journey and can very easily become a very generic flame conversation. I generally think(and I know Im right on this) - you should go with stack you feel the most comfortable with. I think python is not a bad choice either. But anyhow, for anything scalable that requires multithreading and async approach - node.js is still the best. Some perhaps would argue that Erlang is the way to go, but this goes against the rule of simplicity and what I said about comfort.
 

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Thank you for finding time to give such an extensive answer.

I do not understand what you mean by "immobile". Tracking cell tower info does not make sense and I do not belive it's easily possible. They can track same subnets tho, but tracking anything more would not make much sense because 4g providers can rotate their ips as they please.

What I meant was this: https://www.theverge.com/2017/11/21...g-cell-tower-data-android-os-firebase-privacy

It is more inline that if you use Android G has cell tower data available, but modems don't run Android so they are immune to such surveillance.
G could use that to see if a customer if mobile phone is stationary most of the time and therefore perhaps a part of a clickfarm.

What you should look for is EPC and nothing else. $20/acc was a total guesstimate and is too unprecise to be used as a measurement.

And even EPC can highly differ from a social network, offer, copywriter, and so much more - for example how good your automation is - can it just post comments or do more.

I completely agree with you, however when budgeting one of the most important metric is earned USD / modem. If it is high enough, I could jump start the whole process with
new equipment and unlimited data traffic plans and if it is not, I would need to focus on limited traffic plans and used gear.
 

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No, I use networks, like lospollos, imonetizeit, and similar.
Hello,
Traffic from social media comes from multiple countries.
Do you use smart links or manually allocate affiliate programs for each country via tools (for example: bemob)?

Thank you for your time,
Huang
 

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Hello,
Traffic from social media comes from multiple countries.
Do you use smart links or manually allocate affiliate programs for each country via tools (for example: bemob)?

Thank you for your time,
Huang
No, I write my own scripts and cherry pick campaigns that I want to promote.
 

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No, I write my own scripts and cherry pick campaigns that I want to promote.
Thank you for your answer, man. My landing page used to get 1,000 visitors a day from YouTube, but in the end I failed. I'm glad to see you succeed.

Could you talk about how to choose affiliate program for traffic on a topic?
It also confuses me. My traffic is about fitness, but the conversion rate of fitness affiliate program is low, of course, the national factor mentioned above is one reason.

Also, is smart linking a good choice for someone who isn't good at coding? I mean whether it will bring in the right income though not as much as you.
Thank you for your time again,
Huang
 

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How could you promote your stuff on Instagram or twitter? its not always about comments.
Become an authority on a topic, such as dating, fitness, and then people will ask for a recommended product or service

But how to manipulate account in bulk "At the same time working 300-600, depending on the time of day."?

If send a comment, then a simple sentence plus a aff link is enough.
 

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Yes and no, most of my work is reverse engineering requests instead of using headless browsers. Stealth level depends on the network you want to automate. Nowadays all social platforms tries to use some sort of protection, but most of the time, everything can be automated anyway.
Hello, can you give me some indications for reverse engineering requests (I assume mobile App)?
I tried Ssl-Pinning Bypass on iPhone but I had some troubles, will soon give Android a try, unless you have a better idea.
Thanks!
 

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Thank you for your answer, man. My landing page used to get 1,000 visitors a day from YouTube, but in the end I failed. I'm glad to see you succeed.

Could you talk about how to choose affiliate program for traffic on a topic?
It also confuses me. My traffic is about fitness, but the conversion rate of fitness affiliate program is low, of course, the national factor mentioned above is one reason.

Also, is smart linking a good choice for someone who isn't good at coding? I mean whether it will bring in the right income though not as much as you.
Thank you for your time again,
Huang
1k/day is not bad, you should earn at least $50/day probably more. I would advice to test multiple offers as because some offers just does not convert, I think and Im pretty sure about it - they steal the leads/sales.

Become an authority on a topic, such as dating, fitness, and then people will ask for a recommended product or service

But how to manipulate account in bulk "At the same time working 300-600, depending on the time of day."?

If send a comment, then a simple sentence plus a aff link is enough.
Becoming an authority is a powerful thing, but its very time consuming imo.

Hello, can you give me some indications for reverse engineering requests (I assume mobile App)?
I tried Ssl-Pinning Bypass on iPhone but I had some troubles, will soon give Android a try, unless you have a better idea.
Thanks!
SSL pinning is not a simple task to do, but you will succeed better with android. checkout magisk and its modules

Are you willing to sell your method?
I have no BST here so Im not allowed to sell. Now this earns about $600/day average on autopilot, so it would mean that the cost of this method/project should be at least 500k or probably more as I still just use only one channel but its easily adaptable to more.
 

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@lucky.sparks Can you change your donggles 4g ips whenever you want? Like it's possible on android with on/off airplane mode
 

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you're running your own 4g proxy set-up? 50 dongles all locally?

Surely that makes geo a massive fingerprint, unless you're in a super populated area like LA or Bangkok?
 

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you're running your own 4g proxy set-up? 50 dongles all locally?

Surely that makes geo a massive fingerprint, unless you're in a super populated area like LA or Bangkok?

50 dongles are 50 connections at the same time.

''massive" is too strong word for this.

Even with rotation, the amount of accounts used with only 50 dongles is .. just too low to be noticed as geo fingerprint.
 

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50 dongles are 50 connections at the same time.

''massive" is too strong word for this.

Even with rotation, the amount of accounts used with only 50 dongles is .. just too low to be noticed as geo fingerprint.

Interesting! I've seen some around this forum that geo fingerprint would become an issue if you aren't in a crowded area.

How many accounts do you allocate to a dongle? I suppose it shouldn't matter if you're rotating IP when you load a new acc - but i've seen people say you should only have 10 or so accounts per 4g dongle/proxy which seems strange to me considering you can just rotate IP.

I run all my actors on DC's right now, although is getting harder and harder to do so, so looking to move to a 4g local set-up soonish
 
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