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SAPER software Review: SCAM! SCAM! CRAP! Stay away!

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  1. PeterPerseo

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    Recently I had the bad idea to buy a software to manage to SAPE russian website. This tool is in english, so I thought it could be easier to select and buy SAPE links using this software (the original website is ONLY in russian language).
    What a terrible idea!!

    First, I didn't find any information here on BHW forum nor in other seo forums... strange. There are pretty much people that use Sape links, but nobody has written any information or review about the "Saper" software.

    Well, googling the name, I found 2 different website that sell the software (http://www.camnevsoftware.com/saper.php and http://www.x-catcher.com/sape/ ). And here other strange things...
    The price is identical in the 2 sites ($57), both sites have not any "About me" page or "Contact" button or any email for ask informations. I had to investigate a lot (whois and other ways) to find the contacts of the 2 sellers.

    When I wrote to them, both said that they were the owner of the software (I was thinking one was just an affiliate seller). Both said me the software was excellent, fantastic, with no any problem, very easy to manage and use for buying sape links. They also promised me assistance for life for any trouble! Wonderful!

    Ok, after that, I decided to buy the software. And here started all the troubles!!

    1) First, it did not accept the sape password, I had to change it with a simple keyword (not really a problem, but for use it with a russian hacker website I was not so happy)
    2) when finally I was ready to start, I made my selections and pushed start. Result: CRASH!!
    3) shut down, restart, changed some selections, start: CRASH AGAIN!! WTF!

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    4) Well, trying and trying again, sometimes it worked, but the backlinks/sites it scraped from sape.ru website were only 1 or 2. Once it scraped 21 links!! Wow! When I do the same search on the original sape.ru website I get around 5,000 links (the maximum). But with Saper just a couple.... Terrible!

    5) About the scraped links/sites, it was impossible to check their PA/DA because the box "Check DA/PA" was not clickable. So I only could check that metrics copying the urls and checking them with scrapebox or another website.

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    6) Another problem: the software don't let to save the several options that I have to check before to start searching (PR, price, etc). So everytime I used it I had to check all the boxes (so it's much more time-consuming than the original sape website!)

    7) Other annoyance: it doesn't save the Moz API settings! Everytime I started Saper, I had to fill the Moz API because the field was always empty! WTF,000!

    For all these problems, I soon wrote to the seller, and when BEFORE to buy the software he always replied me after few minutes (really he was very quick, impressive help!), now that I had many problems, and that I ALREADY HAD BOUGHT the software, he simply... disappeared. I waited a reply for 3 days and nothing, no one little reply.

    So I opened a dispute on PayPal!

    After this experience, I made much more searches on internet, and I found some posts of the seller right here on BHW forum! Actually only now I realized that the 2 websites were of the SAME SELLER! Check the follow posts of him, he was promoting on this forum the Saper software by both the 2 different websites. First 2 posts were promoting one website, and the 2 other posts were promoting the second website:

    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo/712423-where-buy-sape-links.html#post7533048
    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...efsmajesticbacklinkextractor.html#post8206623
    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...do-presence-check-sape-links.html#post8280801
    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...ch-engine-optimization-tools.html#post8523004

    CONCLUSIONS
    In the end, this software "Saper" it's a software that doesn't work in any way, it often crashes, it scrapes very few websites, it doesn't save the settings, it doesn't accept strong password, it's impossible to charge the account from it. It's completely USELESS!

    After that, I started to use the original russian site www.sape.ru . Here on BHW there are 3 or 4 very helpul and clear guides, reading that I learned very quickly and I already bought some dozens of good sape links, for low prices :D.

    For people interested on sape links, I highly suggest you to don't ever think to buy this crap software, but just to search on this forum the guides, read them, and go directly to sape.ru .

    I also can give you tips about how to buy cheap sape links by its original site, just write here or by PM :)
     
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    STILL sore about the refund dispute eh? i even let you keep your license active after you wanted a refund because "x-catcher.com issues refunds" i have all the emails if you want me to post them :) that's not how business works i'm afraid.

    Now, you are the ONLY person who has come to me with these issues, we barely got down to the issues before you started talking about refunds, this is how it works, when you put in a paypal dispute, i no longer help, i was more than happy to work through the issues which AGAIN i stress, no one else has come to me with.

    AND shall i deactivate your license since it doesn't work shall I?

    Also i never intended to start a new site "x-catcher.com" is no longer mine (since September 2015), but users were saying it was no longer updated so i put the other site up to activate the licenses.

    You are the ultimate customer (and not in a good way!) the software works as described, if anyone else has had issues they never came to me with them that's for sure.

    My 2p on the issue do not sell JACK to this guy! paypal would have given you the refund if you had a leg to stand on, enough said.

    "I also can give you tips about how to buy cheap sape links by its original site, just write here or by PM" - What the hell is this? a way to sell your service outside the marketplace for sape links? very clever indeed :)

    regards

    Graham
     
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    I confirm: CRAP bot!
    No one sape link extracted and bought using that no-working-always-crashing software.
    The posted screenshots speaks alone. Yesterday I bought other 5 links directly from sape.ru, so easy following the guides here on BHW.

    I don't sell anything, I only give FREE tips to people who needs to buy SAPE links (like many other pelple do here on BHW), because using the sape.ru original site is sooo much better than any software or reseller, and not so complicated.

    I don't care about your license, I can give it for free here to people who ask me it, but I don't suggest it as that software DOESN'T WORK in any way.

    I learned how to use and I daily use Gsa Ser, Scrapebox, Domain Hunther Gatherer, The Best Spinner, FCS networker and dozens of other enough complicated softwares, but there is NO WAY to use your SAPER - shit software. Again, the posted screenshots speaks alone. It always CRASH and don't scrape more than 2 links!

    This review will stay here forever, as there are not many news about your unknown bot, and every time somebody will search for news, he will find my honest/proved review.

    Camnevsoftware.com tools and saper ..... highly not recommended !
     
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    Damn Peter, only 2 link you say? always crashing you say? this must be a mirage then:

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    PeterPerseo ..... highly not recommended !

    Ill leave it there o_O
     
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    "Intelligent" guy, I'm not selling ANYTHING here :D, but I see on your sign you are going to try to sell your SCAM services... eheh
    "The seller of an apple always will tell you that his apple is fantastic, only the buyer can say the truth if inside the apple is rotten".
    My screenshots say your software always crash, it doesn't scrape any good links, sape.ru very often update its website and it seems you are not good updating your crap software.

    When somebody steal me $57, I will never forget it in my life.
    Be sure that wherever you will try to sell your crap software, I will be there to write my honest REVIEW !
    That $57 can be the last of your "business" (scam) career. Enjoy them!

    Saper review camnevsoftware.com review Graham McCann review robertsole review
     
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    Another evidence he's a scammer:
    he's making copies and copies of the same shit website selling shit softwares (that never works), and later he sell them on flippa.

    First version (same softwares, same prices, same crap):
    https://flippa.com/5540079-x-catcher-com

    Second version:
    https://flippa.com/5986694-camnevsoftware-com

    That's why, as I wrote on the first post, he started posting here on BHW the first website, and later he changed and started to post (spamming) the url of the second website.

    Internet is full of scammers, be aware!

    Saper review camnevsoftware.com review Graham McCann review robertsole review
     
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    Thanks mate. Also report it to the shit list area.
     
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    Thanks!
    But at the moment I can't report him on the shit list, because that list is only for services sold by BHW forum.
    As soon as he will try to start selling here, he will be reported also in the Shit List page :D
     
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    Nice milking, very bad
     
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    I agree with the OP the software is shit and never worked for me.
     
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    Last REAL screenshots....

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    Shit of the shit...
     
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    Thanks for letting us know OP - and so the seller disappeared :D
     
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    Yes, I've lost $57 but at least maybe nobody else will buy that crap software from him
     
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    First time I am hearing about this software.

    Buying directly from the original site save $$ , but can be a little pain due to the language problem.
     
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    I must say that I own saper for about an year and a half and I have used it in the past with great success! I don't deny that the software is buggy and yes it's a bit unintuitive, but it served me well for some time and I've done a few great campaigns with it while I was obsessed with sape. I can also confirm that the developer was a bit slow on requests, but I was not in a hurry either and most of my feature requests and bug reports were taken care of.

    I do agree that the software is a bit hard to learn and unpolished. Crashes and errors do come up whenever you press the wrong buttons. There is a certain pattern that should be carefully followed when using it and if you don't it can crash. I had a lot of headaches at the beginning like OP, but the developer was kind enough to explain to me all the steps when using it and I was fine after that.

    It's certainly not a complete product and needs a lot of work, mostly done on error reporting. And it's really not clear to me why this guy won't make this tool rock-solid. It's practically the only tool on the market. Buying links from sape made easy in English. I think I know exactly what OP was going through with this software. It has a bit of a steep learning curve for a simple looking software and it may seem that it's not worth the time learning it at first, but it does save a lot of time after you get the hang of it. I even understand Russian and found saper easier while buying links.

    It has a lot of work and the GUI is certainly not very well thought of, but I must stay and defend the seller here from these harsh accusations. I've had a long chat with him at the time and he is definitely NOT a scammer or a bad guy. We even had some interesting discussion on certain topics around SEO and IM and he seems to be quite knowledgeable in the field. So I must defend his honor here and say that he DOES not deserve treatment like this. He refunded you OP AND left your license active. Why all this rage? If you have a dispute with him just solve it like real humans, no need to shitlist anyone..

    EDIT: By the way OP I know why you're getting only 1 link in your scenario. It's because the "Price Between" on that screenshot is in Russian Rubles NOT in USD as it's stated in the software. That's is just one of the bugs in the software :) . So you're basically looking for links that are from 3 to 9 in PR and with a price lower than 5 Rubles not USD. Yes there are a few minor bugs like that in the software that you need to learn to ignore if you want to use it right. :)
     
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    LOL! You're defending that software, but you are doing the same bad review like me :D


    Well, with me was not kind at all, he never replied to my request AFTER purchase, but only BEFORE purchase. Maybe you were his first buyer :)

    Totally FALSE! I wrote several time here (read better next time ;) ) that he NEVER refunded me!


    Why??
    Maybe because on the PayPal dispute he started calling me scammer, when I paid ALL the money he asked me, and I was only asking some support for that terrible script. So I was the scammer (paying $57) and not him that simply disappeared after to get the cash. Funny!

    Why?
    Maybe because that terrible script was too much expensive for its quality (thinks the Scrapebox costs only $5 more of it, Scrapebox that is the King of the scripts, full of free addons that everyone has more coding lines that the whole shit-Saper).

    Why?
    Maybe because after to start this threads, he sent me threats by email for to stop writing bad reviews to him.

    Why?
    Maybe because there are 2 sellers of that software: one legit (x-catcher.com) that has bought the rights of the software one year ago, and that also give "money back" guarantee; and this so called "Graham McCann" of camnevsoftware.com that doesn't give any guarantee and after to get the cash he disappear. Think that, after selling the first website with included software license rights to a buyer, he kept selling the software! He's scammer with many people, believe me.

    All this thread is just a review of my purchase, a common thing in the Seo forums, nothing more. But my review can finish here, nothing to add more, I already gave a deep description of the software and now I'm already bored about that.
     
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    God You are a sore loser Peter, you are making my point very well :) if anyone does have any problems at anytime feel free to hit me up on: [email protected] i'll happily help :)

    I am nearly finished v2 completely re-writen, which is a lot more stable, i fixed a few threading issues which did cause crashes, i have no idea what Peters issues are as he is being a baby, and i never had the opportunity to debug it, when you grow up, hit me on the email above and i'll see what the issue is :)

    0 - 5????? no wonder you got 1 link!! PEBCAK!!



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    Loser, total loser, that's the right word for you, thanks to suggest me :D
    Selling tools of another owner.... totally scammer!
    Try now to sell other tools... I wonder who can believe you now :D
     
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    the software is indeed incredibly buggy, but i think it''s because he is a struggling coder nothing else. he will improve over time and release things we can rely on. give him a chance
     
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    Sorry, there are some mistakes on your post.
    I will fix them, so it can be easyer to read and understand the right meaning of it. The wrong words will be replaced by green text words. Thanks
    "The software is indeed incredibly SHIT, but i think it''s because he is a struggling SCAMMER, nothing else. he will GET WORSE over time and release things we can rely on. give him a chance TO CHEAT again somebody else".
    :D
     
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