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Sape / PBN / BST for Rank and Bank - Churn and Burn... WHATS CURRENT?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by LeadInMarketing, Apr 24, 2014.

  1. LeadInMarketing

    LeadInMarketing Registered Member

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    Whatsup BHW. I have my hands on the GSA suite(gsa ser, indexer, captcha breaker), scrapebox, and some other non-linkbuilding tools + 20 private proxies. I would like to get a service(s) for churn and burn- Web 2.0s and fresh single - to - 5 page domains.....

    Whats currently working for churn and burn. What services? Theres a massive amount of services in here, I want to know from people that actually use some or have used some and got results. I skimmed through a few and I see, 20 links here, 40 links there, etc.... This churn and burn will need thousands. So help me out with some suggestions. Thanx in advance.
     
  2. irdeto

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    You need to read the reviews in the marketplace and make your own informed decision.
    In the marketplace the OP's have a tendency to repost on each page a copy of all their feedback (ignore those...its just a ploy to make you think that they are receiving that much feedback on each page...misleading if you ask me). Go through post by post in the thread and make your own decision.
     
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  3. LeadInMarketing

    LeadInMarketing Registered Member

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    I will do that tomorrow.... Its just all of the ones ive seen (besides 1 or 2) have just a small amount of links(maybe, 200, 300, 400)...
     
  4. tony_d

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    Quantity of links is entirely meaningless in the current SEO landscape, and I really can't see a return to the days where quantity was important.

    I've been a SAPE and 301 guy, but I've recently started building out my own PBN, and intend to keep doing so because it works like nothing else in the world! And, needless to say, I have 100% control over every aspect of it.
     
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  5. rayee

    rayee Power Member

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    Will PBN get your site penalised , people?
     
  6. tony_d

    tony_d Elite Member

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    Depends whether the 'P' stands for Public or Private :)

    If you buy from a public network, like those advertised online, you will eventually get taken out (when the network does).
    If, however, you build your own, and keep it truly private, you'll bank hard until 2062.
     
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  7. KoolCat

    KoolCat Newbie

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    Ah yes PBN what really makes me laugh is how people list PBN links for sale when all the really
    private blog networks are not available on the forum just waiting for Google to find out about it.

    So in my opinion PBN's are good and worth it for longer than short term but eventually you could
    still get slapped.
     
  8. vonSteinberg

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    What about building links to your PBN? What methods do you use?
     
  9. tony_d

    tony_d Elite Member

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    I don't build any... just spend the money on buying good domains that have suitable profiles already in place :)
     
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  10. LeadInMarketing

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    Thanxxx tony_d. I was still under the impression for Churn and Burn, you massively blast hundreds of thousand, tens of thousand, or maybe even a few thousand links to get ranked for a month or longer(if lucky).... As far as you reffering to the SAPE and 301 technique, are you saying, buying a 150 link package of PR1-5 from SAPE directly or third party like SpeedRank, will help me surpass my competition with 1k links? ... Or am i still correct for the churn and burn? If my competition in the top 3 have around 1k-2k links each, then me blasting my churn and burn web 2.0 or fresh domain with say, about 5k-10k links will push me in front of them.... That was my thought.
     
  11. LeadInMarketing

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    Thanxxx KoolCat. Do you have any experience with any of the "Private" Blog Networks here on BST? Any recommendations?
     
  12. vonSteinberg

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    I did look at that, but good domains look to be very expensive. What would you suggest when starting with new domains?
     
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    brexilator Newbie

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    I would also suggest you start building your own PBN as that is what is going to help you. GSA may be good for diversity
     
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    I don't think tony meant what you understood , he probably meant that now the quality of links matter more than quantity , so for example , 5 good backlinks will take over 50k spam links ...
     
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  15. LeadInMarketing

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    Thanx for chimming in.... Are you using any of these blackhat methods currently? Any experience with SAPE or any of the resellers here? Thanx
     
  16. Aussie

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    Unless you are okay with short term rankings(3-6 months),stay away from SAPE or any other mass posting service.
     
  17. LeadInMarketing

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    That's exactly what I'm looking to do. Rank fast, bank, and when it burns I repeat
     
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    I have found some domains with high DA but how do I know they aren't penalizes already? These are expired domains intended for use in my PBN.
     
  19. LeadInMarketing

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    Im sure someone else can give a more detailed answers, but I know first you have to check if it's indexed in Google site:your website ...... I know Semrush gathers data and gives estimattes on hoow muuch search engine traffic the domain gets. I believe Alexa does as well
     
  20. LeadInMarketing

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    Anyone else have any advice?