Sandboxing your way to the #1 Spot on the big G

Sugirl · Oct 12, 2010

Bump for this thread! So anyone who posted on this thread earlier came out of Sandbox stronger?

CyrusVirus · Oct 12, 2010

Sugirl said:
Bump for this thread! So anyone who posted on this thread earlier came out of Sandbox stronger?

still haven't even hit the sandbox yet.

Sugirl · Oct 12, 2010

CyrusVirus said:
still haven't even hit the sandbox yet.

||||||| Just bought it

waiting for activation

persiaseo · Oct 12, 2010

I have a domain 3+ years old with only 40 pages of content. No new contents added. I started to build profile links from 5 months ago and Now it appears on the 1-3 positions on google serp for competitive keywords. I started slowly and then increased the BL creation rate and still going.

ranga · Oct 12, 2010

heres my theory about it all

naturally: links will never precede traffic i.e. first there is traffic and then links happen naturally and google knows this

also google knows about your traffic from various sources namely analytics (provided for free for a reason), gmail, webmaster tools, feedburner, google chrome, google search and their cookie etc. etc. so google has lots of sources to know about ur site including alexa, quantcast etc.

For me I follow these three steps

1. Put up a site and get it indexed (using pinging & directory submissions if necessary)
2. Get traffic from non google sources like forums, twitter, facebook etc.
3. start backlinking after 1 month (google human review happen during 1st month mostly and if ur site looks shit then ur sandboxed)

None of my sites have been sandboxed till now and one one site by experiment i am getting 200 visitors daily on duplicate content, no backlinks autoblog so backlinks is not the only thing important nowadays

irie08 · Oct 14, 2010

My two cents: I had a good client with about 50+ solid keyword rankings. I did some SB blasting, link building through article marketing/web 2.0, etc. It got sandboxed. He freaked. I did too a little bit.

But I kept doing the same stuff and a few weeks later he was back with sustained rankings for all of his keywords, and most of them had increased in position.

BorisTipsIt · Oct 14, 2010

I'm old school. Build a site, crank maybe a couple hundred links and then let it age for a year or so. Then start ramping up to obscene levels. Once the year is passed, I don't have any problems. Most I've added after that in a month is maybe 2,000 links though so...

IamNRE · Oct 15, 2010

BorisTipsIt said:
I'm old school. Build a site, crank maybe a couple hundred links and then let it age for a year or so. Then start ramping up to obscene levels. Once the year is passed, I don't have any problems. Most I've added after that in a month is maybe 2,000 links though so...

My 6 week old site has 2K links indexed in yahoo .... ranking number 1 for my main keyword.

I am on page 4 in google.

I think a little more blast of like 50-100K good blast should get my main and 2nd keyword on to first page of google.

So I dont think you have to wait 1 year before blasting

redstone.1337 · Oct 15, 2010

crazyflx said:
I'll let you know (you and a couple of others that are interested to know what happens to it).

It was actually on the first page before I blasted the hell out of it. It's an exact match domain for an extremely NON competitive keyword (think local search).

I did it just as an experiment. Of those insane amount of links in such a short time, I only varied the anchor text of them with 3 or 4 phrases too...another no-no.

I'm excited myself to see just what happens exactly.

Any Update Crazyflx?

irate14:

I'm myself going to blast hell using SB on my 2 day old site!

Its in very competitve niche and there is very less chances of it to rank even for 3 months so better if it rests in Sandbox while I make more and more backlinks and it comes out back being stronger than ever!

crazyflx · Oct 31, 2010

crazyflx said:
I literally did the first half of your theory on purpose. I mean, not to rank well, but to see if I would get sandboxed.

I've got a new domain, about 3 weeks old, and it has over 14k indexed backlinks as of this moment (grows everyday).

I got sandboxed hard...my site isn't in the first 1k results. It is indexed however, as using the "site:" operator makes it and all it's pages show up (google has indexed every page of the site).

I'm still building links, so I'll see what happens.

crazyflx said:
I'll let you know (you and a couple of others that are interested to know what happens to it).

It was actually on the first page before I blasted the hell out of it. It's an exact match domain for an extremely NON competitive keyword (think local search).

I did it just as an experiment. Of those insane amount of links in such a short time, I only varied the anchor text of them with 3 or 4 phrases too...another no-no.

I'm excited myself to see just what happens exactly.

Well, true to my word, I promised I'd update this thread once my site got out of the sandbox.

The site went into the sandbox around the the 2nd week of August after I blasted the ever living h3ll out of it with backlinks.

Just for kicks, a couple days after I hit the sandbox, I stopped building backlinks to the site entirely...and it is NOT the kind of site that will EVER get backlinks naturally.

** Interesting Facts **

I just came out of the sandbox today, in position 3 on the first page.

My domain is a .info...outranking a .com with the same domain name as me (which I don't own).

I'm first on Bing (and for those of you who don't know, that also means I'm first on Yahoo as the SERP's are the same for those two engines).

I have over 6k backlinks now (as you can see from my quoted post above, I lost quite a few of the backlinks I originally got when I blasted it before it was sandboxed).

The content on the site is COMPLETELY COPIED FROM ELSEWHERE on the web. It is not spun, it isn't changed, the formatting of the content is the same...in other words, I literally just found articles on the web, copied them & pasted them into my blog EXACTLY as I found them.

While I stopped building backlinks, I DID continue adding content....copied content...roughly 1 "new article" every 2 weeks.

kijkij · Oct 31, 2010

When you people talk about backlinks, you mean unique domain links or all links from each domain?

crazyflx · Oct 31, 2010

crazyflx said:
Well, true to my word, I promised I'd update this thread once my site got out of the sandbox.

The site went into the sandbox around the the 2nd week of August after I blasted the ever living h3ll out of it with backlinks.

Just for kicks, a couple days after I hit the sandbox, I stopped building backlinks to the site entirely...and it is NOT the kind of site that will EVER get backlinks naturally.

** Interesting Facts **

I just came out of the sandbox today, in position 3 on the first page.

My domain is a .info...outranking a .com with the same domain name as me (which I don't own).

I'm first on Bing (and for those of you who don't know, that also means I'm first on Yahoo as the SERP's are the same for those two engines).

I have over 6k backlinks now (as you can see from my quoted post above, I lost quite a few of the backlinks I originally got when I blasted it before it was sandboxed).

The content on the site is COMPLETELY COPIED FROM ELSEWHERE on the web. It is not spun, it isn't changed, the formatting of the content is the same...in other words, I literally just found articles on the web, copied them & pasted them into my blog EXACTLY as I found them.

While I stopped building backlinks, I DID continue adding content....copied content...roughly 1 "new article" every 2 weeks.

Update #2

Yesterday it came out of the sanbox at position #3 now today, position #2....and I didn't do a thing.

Bryan · Nov 1, 2010

@crazyfix lol i was ABOUT to post "your site should be ranking first page as of now, if not, give it some time" because when i first read you saying you got sandboxed, i knew it was just google dancing, always is and will always put you up higher. congrats on ranking high dude

BorisTipsIt · Nov 1, 2010

I'm convinced. Time to blow out the jams...err, links.

beolion · Nov 1, 2010

I'm subscribing to this thread to keep myself up to date.

renateh · Nov 4, 2010

Wow that are great results! What kind of bls did you build?

iamman · Nov 7, 2010

Questions,
did you submit your site to webmaster tools or analytics?
how many pages of content did you start with?
How was your on page seo at start?
How competitive was the keyword?
What were your rankings before sandbox and how long did your high ranking last before you ended up getting sandboxed?

Thanks

crazyflx said:
Update #2

Yesterday it came out of the sanbox at position #3 now today, position #2....and I didn't do a thing.

bigwali · Nov 7, 2010

From experience, throwing thousands of backlinks is totally unnecessary and sometimes counter productive. Proper SEO and quality over quantity backlinks win every time. People want instant results so they often go for quantity to get to the top. Think twice before employing this strategy.

IamNRE · Nov 7, 2010

how many links do you have indexed in google and yahoo?

How competitive was ur niche? i.e "competition" and "searches per month"

crazyflx · Nov 7, 2010

renateh said:
Wow that are great results! What kind of bls did you build?

ScrapeBox Backlinks

iamman said:
Questions,
did you submit your site to webmaster tools or analytics?
how many pages of content did you start with?
How was your on page seo at start?
How competitive was the keyword?
What were your rankings before sandbox and how long did your high ranking last before you ended up getting sandboxed?

Thanks

1) I didn't submit it to webmaster tools or analytics
2) I started with 1 page of content
3) My on page SEO was so good, it's just about to the point of being excessive (keyword stuffing), but not quite.
4) My keyword was incredibly NON competitive. It is for a local search phrase (like: "dentist denver CO" but not that)
5) My ranking before the sandbox was 9th on the first page and that lasted for roughly 5 days. I was nowwhere for the first 2 weeks or so (as it was a newly registered domain), then I popped up on the first page and then was sandboxed roughly a week later...give or take.

IamNRE said:
how many links do you have indexed in google and yahoo?

Almost 7k in Yahoo...not sure about Google.

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