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Sandboxing your way to the #1 Spot on the big G

Discussion in 'Link Building' started by CyrusVirus, Sep 3, 2010.

  1. CyrusVirus

    CyrusVirus BANNED BANNED Premium Member

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    Ok, so I have a theory going here. but lets start with an introduction of who I am and what I do.

    My name is Cyrus, My Fiance' and I work together and we backlink as a service on here and work on quality not quantity. Some of you mistake me as a female because I put most of our things in her name for security reasons. So, we watch alot of peoples stats and see how our backlinks affect their website just to kind of watch the quality of our own service.

    Now, everyone gets all down when they get sandboxed because their website isn't in google or they can't rank or whatever. but why get down ? You did it to yourself first of all and second, there is only a handful of things you can do, there is a how to somewhere on here that teach's you how to get yourself out of the sandbox. look it up.

    so here comes the theory in my little thinktank


    The Theory

    I know this sounds stupid, but, when you backlink yourself too much because your a new website you get sandboxed for a set amount of time. but what happens to your site when you come out of the sandbox ? nothing, wanna know why ? because you stopped backlinking it.

    So the theory would be to sandbox your own website, and continue to backlink it until you think its appropriate enough. say 50k to 100k backlinks. and when your site jumps outta the sandbox, it takes off running to the top of page 1 in google. Well thats the theory.

    So, i would like some feedback on this and maybe a discussion and see where it goes.

    thanks for listening

    CyrusVirus
     
  2. crazyflx

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    I literally did the first half of your theory on purpose. I mean, not to rank well, but to see if I would get sandboxed.

    I've got a new domain, about 3 weeks old, and it has over 14k indexed backlinks as of this moment (grows everyday).

    I got sandboxed hard...my site isn't in the first 1k results. It is indexed however, as using the "site:" operator makes it and all it's pages show up (google has indexed every page of the site).

    I'm still building links, so I'll see what happens.
     
  3. CyrusVirus

    CyrusVirus BANNED BANNED Premium Member

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    Well, i would love to know how it goes once you get out of the sandbox
     
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    I'll let you know (you and a couple of others that are interested to know what happens to it).

    It was actually on the first page before I blasted the hell out of it. It's an exact match domain for an extremely NON competitive keyword (think local search).

    I did it just as an experiment. Of those insane amount of links in such a short time, I only varied the anchor text of them with 3 or 4 phrases too...another no-no.

    I'm excited myself to see just what happens exactly.
     
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  5. virus_1720

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    Add as much fresh content as possible and continue building backlinks....The more fresh content the higher will be your rankings when the site gets out of the sandbox. IMHO there is nothing as sandbox, its just that google is thinking where to put your site.

    FRESH CONTENT+LOADS OF BACKLINKS = TOP G POSITIONS :D
     
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    Axelz Registered Member

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    If you keep doing what got you sandboxed does G not penalize you again and it will take longer to get out of the sandbox?
     
  7. crazyflx

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    You know, it's funny. I actually completely agree with this (obviously I have a more complicated/convoluted theory on it, but that's it in a nutshell).
     
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  8. BigGuy

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    Im just curious to know how you actually can see how long time the sandbox will take?

    And what amount of backlinks can course a sandbox by big G? Im thinkin of building +500 backlins more to my site. I think I already build around +300-400 now. And my domain is one and a half month old.

    So should i be worry about a sandbox for my domain? :)
     
  9. CyrusVirus

    CyrusVirus BANNED BANNED Premium Member

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    honestly, i think i am building around 1k a week now for my site and it has yet to be sandboxed, but im working in that direction just to see if anything goes well, i don't think we should be afraid of it and honestly i am starting to doubt that it even exist
     
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    CyrusVirus BANNED BANNED Premium Member

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    just in case some of you are looking for ways to get out of the sandbox, someone shared it here
    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/member-downloads/230116-get-google-sandbox-fix.html
     
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  11. crazyflx

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    Well, when I did it to my site (what's described above) I did it in one day. I mean, I submitted my site to all the places that are now currently indexed as backlinks in one day. It took about 4 or 5 days for them all to show up in YSE. Prior to that, it had ZERO backlinks.

    Do that to a site, and I'm fairly sure there is no way you WON'T get sandboxed (which, incidentally, was kind of the reason I did it. I wanted to see if it was possible to do that without getting sandboxed).
     
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  12. dotcum

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    HOW DO YOU GUYS BUILD SO MANY BACKLINKS THAT GET INDEXED IN SUCH SHORT TIME PERIOD? Please share. Is this xrumer or scrapebox?
     
  13. CyrusVirus

    CyrusVirus BANNED BANNED Premium Member

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    well good sir. you can do it a few different ways. scrapebox, and xrumer are the most popular, but you could outsource alot of people too.
    i personally use sb but my next peice of software is xrumer and a dedi.
     
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    What he said ^
     
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    I've always thought this is a good strategy as well. If you have the resources why not just continue building backlinks. In fact I still tend to think of backlinking in the same way it was used pre-google. If you can get enough backlinks on the right sites and pages then you can actually still get traffic even if you aren't on the first listing in the serps. Obviously you'll get even more traffic if you are, but if you're sandboxed why not really concentrated on building as many good quality backlinks as you can to see how much traffic you can still get based on just that. Eventually those backlinks should end up helping your seo as well and might even help get you out of the sandbox no matter how many you make.
     
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    It's official my Young Jeezy website got sandboxed because it hasn't returned to its rankings for more than 5 days now.

    It has over 17,000 backlinks and less than 1 month old.

    So we'll see how long it takes to get out of the sandbox, and what ranking it will get.
     
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  17. CyrusVirus

    CyrusVirus BANNED BANNED Premium Member

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    What he said too ^

    and agree'd ^, to be honest i forgot what it was like without google around. but anyway, sandbox or no sandbox, backlinks are a great source of traffic like you said
     
  18. zverr

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    I have already done that. Yes you will come back. You don't need fresh content, you don't need unique content and you don't need much content. All you need is well optimised page and lots of backlinks. I now have 781 000 links ( yes I do have 781k links ) in G webmasters tools and 100k+ in yahoo and I am pretty stable. I did this with many xrumer blasts and scrapebox blasts and also manual commenting on high page rank blogs.
     
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    I subscribed to this thread to see your progress crazyflx and bobbylove too, I'm really interested to see if your sites have improved in the SERP-s or got sandboxed forever!
    Plz, let us know how everything goes...
     
  20. spunk91

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    You'll get out of the sandbox again!? then whats to worry about? :D
    Think im gonna blast one of my sites then :p