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Sandbox your competition, the best use for scrape box ?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by webpfa, Mar 20, 2011.

  1. webpfa

    webpfa Power Member

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    I used one of this free list of " autoaproved " blogs that you can get here to an old ( 3 years old ) site that I have. Result ? From position 10th ( google usa ) I went to position 421 ! for main keyword in 2 weeks of blasts, lol.
    So I tried it with a blog web 2.0 sublink, again, from 14th position goes to 35th position in just 7 days !
    So basically, if you hate someone, do sb for free, right now, is the best use for SB.
    And I did not even pass the 1000 back links per day, I have to try 10000 Back links per day and see what happen :44:.
     
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  2. ScrapeBoss

    ScrapeBoss Elite Member Premium Member

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    That does not happen in all cases. You may be doing your competition good instead of bad.

    Your competitor's site may be an aged domain and an authority site. Therefore, those SB links you are creating would make the site stronger.
     
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    aznxmtg Regular Member

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    After a few weeks/months, they will come back stronger most of the time. You can try reporting them.
     
  4. badman1

    badman1 Junior Member

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    I totally agree with the other guys ive seen it first hand!
    Sandbox in my personal opinion is good because as long as im not worried about the short term i am GOING to come back better!
     
  5. Micallef

    Micallef Supreme Member

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    Honestly, do you think that Google is going to allow link blasting sabotage?

    They simply can't let this happen.

    This is the one great thing that protects us spam linkbuilders - if Google issues penalties for link blasting, it will be adapted to very fast.

    Once blackhatters like us know the score, we'd use such tactics to take down our competitors.

    Link blasting with the quickfire tools (sbox, xrumer) works, but you don't get the negative effects if you have a core of quality links first. These come from blog networks I have constructed (in my case) and high quality manual comment spam (MIT, NASA, Harvard, Yale etc).

    Anyhow - if Google issued hard penalties for blasting, the whole web would go up in smoke. It can't happen in any serious way, if order online is to be maintained.

    Sure, you saw a drop in rankings - but sure enough, you'll be back.
     
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  6. webpfa

    webpfa Power Member

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    But what if after you go back, you do the blast again, and again , and again ? I am not talking about doing to the CNN, Nasa, etc. I am talking to do it to a site with a pr3-4 , a couples of years old, etc. I told you, It did work to a well know 2.0 website sublink , I mean, you can try it by your own. And with my own site that I tried was not and autoblog, was a 3 years old site with pr 3, I even have a wikipedia back link to this site .
     
  7. AquaClean

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    why would you ruin your own, aged pr3 domain, with a wiki link, that was ranking decently? why not chose a site that's not in any of your niches track their rankings, and blast away.
     
  8. webpfa

    webpfa Power Member

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    Ruining with a wiki link ? What do you mean ?
     
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    thetvnun Power Member

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    5 of my sites change nearly 300 serps a day. averaging 50 positions or so each. it doesnt just happen sometimes, it happens everytime i perform seo backlinking, and it happens for weeks.
     
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    So, basically, according to you I am not wrong ? If the sandbox last for weeks, you do a blast again, and again, and again, and it should work ?
     
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    The problem with the sandbox isn't the loss of rankings (because you will come out stronger than before), but how long you stay there.
     
  12. jheyslow

    jheyslow Senior Member

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    Most of the time, when blast your site with SB is just a google dance and not sandbox. It will only take weeks. And your site will dance a small bit if you do it daily.
     
  13. webpfa

    webpfa Power Member

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    Thanks for your answers :)
     
  14. Pripod

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    I second what everyone else is saying. There is a bounce effect that happens with Scrapebox. There is actually a case study that already exists on BH World where someone tried doing just this. They sent a whole bunch of spammy links from SB to a competitor. At first it dropped them, but then they came back stronger than ever a week later.
     
  15. d3ky44

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    I got a site i have tested for 2-3 months now things i did :

    - 5 articles on site
    - submitted to 5 different article directories
    - 3k backlinks weekly with scrapebox

    that was i did when the site was two weeks old, then one week pause, then again the same thing, then i got to the second page last place for the main keyword, i blasted some backlinks again, then i got into the first place for two days, and then i got "sandboxed", i got on 156 place for the main keyword, couple a days ago i checked my stats, and i was on the first page for the two main keywords, i was on it for a week, i blasted some backlinks 2k if you want to know, and im on 120 place for the main keyword now, my site is 3 months old now, i hope it helps someone. :)
     
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  16. niel96

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    Can anyone tell me does sandboxing still work?