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Sandbox just an illusion?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Nosence, Feb 8, 2011.

  1. Nosence

    Nosence Senior Member

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    I was ranking for 7 keywords yesterday and today I am not ranking at all for any of them. My site was not deindexed though, I still get quite a bit of traffic from bing and aol and search will that be affected also? I am not sure about where I was ranked with them.

    Also what rate should I build backlinks now? the more the better to move back up or a wait a while and see what happens?
     
  2. webmast

    webmast Regular Member

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    So many similar threads...

    A brand new site, lots of low quality backlinks in a short period of time, it ranks very well for a few days and then BAM.
    Publish unique content and forget about it. Work on other projects. Eventually it will come back after 3-6 months...
     
  3. Nosence

    Nosence Senior Member

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    I have read all of the sandboxed threads, but will it affect ranking in other search engines?

    Also what rate do I continue to build backlinks
     
  4. redstone.1337

    redstone.1337 BANNED BANNED Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    This can help you out!

    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo/242895-get-your-site-out-dreaded-sandbox-video-tutorial-d.html
     
  5. neutralhatter

    neutralhatter Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    The sandbox is not an illusion. It is real, allthough it can have multiple reasons.
    the Big G uses thousands and maybe millions of parameters to determine rankings.
    you may want to reverse engineer the search engines to work for you, but they want to reverse engineer your way of thinking...
     
  6. Nosence

    Nosence Senior Member

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    That video should be a sticky! Thanks so much!

    But I still want to know if the google rank will affect the yahoo rank. I know everyone mainly talks about google but I get a lot of traffic from yahoo and bing
     
  7. richlondon18

    richlondon18 Junior Member

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    Yup the sandbox def exists and it is possible to get out

    I agree the video should be stickied somehwere it covers all the main ways of digging your site out of the sandbox

    The main factor from it is bang on and that is stop building low quality "spammy" links like comments, forums etc and look for some high authority links and add them slowly
     
  8. webmast

    webmast Regular Member

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    No, it won't affect Yahoo & Bing. You can rank N1 in Yahoo & Bing and 400th in Google. No problem.
    Random rate. But if you continue to build low quality backlinks it might get even worse. IMHO no links is better than spam links in this case.
    But add unique content from time to time!
     
  9. Nosence

    Nosence Senior Member

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    I think I may have found something that may be an issue.

    I host on host gator and if you do site:Originaldomain.com you get all of the other indexed links which comes up as site:newdomain.orginaldomain.com

    All of a sudden I went from having 63 indexed pages for my original domain to 3200 pages from newdomain.orginaldomain.com.

    Could this be the reason I am sandboxed? it seems to have all occured within the same week. I purchased a website and had it moved to this hosting. Should I remove the new website? would that help me?

    According to wayback machine my domain is 7 years old, and only has 1500 backlinks, it has been getting them at a rate of maybe 150 per day over the last 2 weeks
     
  10. rebox

    rebox Newbie

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    It's always been a time issue for me, after 3-6 months like someone said, they come back.
     
  11. Tetsuya121

    Tetsuya121 BANNED BANNED

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    This only effect new sites right. Not like if I submit to an article to a directory right?
     
  12. rebox

    rebox Newbie

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    Right, it's about domain/content age usually. If it's a new domain, it will be a delay. Even old expired domains with new content are laggy. Just build more while you're waiting. You'll be glad you did later.
     
  13. Nosence

    Nosence Senior Member

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    But could the added indexed pages cause this?